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Tamamo; Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate Exclusive
Topic Started: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:31 am (3,797 Views)
Ixbran
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Mae Tamamo appears in the dimensional realm after Hydra's defeat. Through the powers of a mysterious scroll, she enjoys toying with the warriors like they are her personal puppets. She joins forces with Orochi and Da Ji, all the while following her own mysterious agenda.


I love her design, So beautiful and elegant, definitely a high class woman.
Edited by Ixbran, Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:05 am.
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Xalfrea
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If this updated WO3 will indeed have a new story, I hope her character will be utilized properly enough. Design wise it's as if No, Zhen Ji and Zhang Chunhua did the fusion dance.
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I think I saw her before... Toukiden huh?
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Well Tamomo-no-Mae was a courtesan under the Japanese Emperor Konoe, Tamomo-no-Mae was not only beautiful, but she was infinitely knowledgeable in all subjects. Tamomo-no-Mae, thought to of been the most beautiful and intelligent woman in Japanese mythology. That is some history on her.
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Her name has been misspelt, it should be Tamamo no Mae.

First I want to say that for a long time she has been my main Warriors Orochi OC, and I had already woven her into my canon of the WO universe when she turned up here. And coincidentally she does have some similarities with the design I had drawn for her, most notably the fur coat. http://redelta88.deviantart.com/gallery/36256396?offset=0#/art/Beauty-Stroll-325051264?_sid=4d2e89b2

Her design here makes me think of what Daji SHOULD have looked like in history, since her attire is very traditional and not as flashy or outlandish as the other characters. And I agree that she totally has CLASS. Definitely a badass fox milf if you ask me...her character seems to be on the dark side, but I wouldn't mind as long as she ends up working for the Coalition in some manner, since Daji kinda lost her antagonist role in WO3.

Speaking of Daji it is to be noted that Daji and Tamamo are the same fox in Asian folklore. The fox was born in India and turned into a number of dynasty-ruining women until she made her last carnation in Japan and was turned into stone. In this WO it seems she is a fellow conspirator with Daji, and uses an arcane scroll as a weapon? Well, well...looks like she'll also be fun to use if done the right way.

In all I'm looking forward to her role. I may be a little sorrowful since I had put so much work into my OC version of Tamamo, but her canon self seems to be a good enough replacement.
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Ixbran
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I spelled her name "Mae Tamomo" because thats obviously going to be her westernized name.

like "Seimei no Abe" was changed to "Abe Seimei" in WO3Hyper.
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Ixbran
Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:16 pm
I spelled her name "Mae Tamomo" because thats obviously going to be her westernized name.

like Seimei no Abe was changed to Abe Seimei. So no, your wrong its not spelled wrong. Its just the westernized variation of it.
It's Tamamo, and not Tamomo. :hehe:

Anyway, her design is gorgeous. Before she was revealed, I was thinking she was going to be super naked/sexualized, since she's considered as the most beautiful woman of Japan (and you know, in KOEI games...), so I'm very pleased with her design. :heart: And having a scroll as a weapon is something I've always wanted in the Warriors games, so that's a plus!

Looks like she's going to be a conspirator with Daji... Interesting, very interesting. :shifty:
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and Fixed, lol.

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sorry for the o and a mixup.
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If she's going to use the scroll, I hope that Koei will make her a Normal warriors (you know the 9 charge attacks kind like Nagamasa, Ginchiyo, Muneshige, etc). Before Hyper was released, I was hoping that Momiji would be a Normal type since Ryu, Ayane or any new SW type characters in WO3 were all Charge type, and look Momiji is another Charge character. That was one of the biggest disappointments in WO3 =.=.

Back in the PS2 version, at least Yoshitsune and Benkei get to be the Normal types to balance the SW roster, but in WO3, none.

Anyway, she looks interesting, I hope to see conversation between her and Seimei and the Heian people.
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Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:33 pm
Anyway, she looks interesting, I hope to see conversation between her and Seimei and the Heian people.
Conversation between Tamamo and Seimei will be epic! I can imagine it. :whistle:
With Benkei and Yoshitsune? Not so much.
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Absolutely love her design classy and evil with a hint of sexy :P but is this for another WO3 expansion?
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Absolutely love her design classy and evil with a hint of sexy :P but is this for another WO3 expansion?
She'll appear in WO3 Ultimate. It's a (third) re-release, but a new story will be included. A last new character will be revealed later too.
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The japanese characters always get the best designs in my opinion and this is no exception. The scroll should be a good moveset given the regular demand for a book weapon for mystic characters in varied warriors series and it will be interesting to see where she fits in the story.

Until i get more details cant really say ive much more to say on the lassie
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I know nothing about her historically, however that design is beautiful and cannot wait to see it in-game. My only issue is that it's so good I kinda wish the design wasn't used in a WO and instead a proper game that I can take remotely seriously, WO3 killed it for me. That aside though, we needed a woman looking like this a while a go, looks great!
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Also, according to the Koei wiki, she was considered one of japans most evil spirits in folklore, along with Shuten Dōji. I have a feeling these two will have a strong connection in the games new story as well.
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Seimei and Taigong Wang too. :yes:

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Mae Tamamo is a mythological Japanese figure from the late Heian period. She is either a two or nine-tailed fox who is known for her beauty and wicked cunning. Japanese folklore may compare her to Daji or state that Tamamo is a Japanese pseudonym for her. This version is often defeated by Seimei or his descendants or Taigong Wang.

That can't be just a coincidence!
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Oh for the love of....

Fix the title damn it. It's Tamamo no Mae. She's a classical character in Japanese mythology from the earlier half of the last millennium. She's exempt to the typical westernized name order that has affected the rest of the cast except for what looks like Minamoto no Yoshitsune and Abe no Seimei.
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Oh for the love of....

Fix the title damn it. It's Tamamo no Mae. She's a classical character in Japanese mythology from the earlier half of the last millennium. She's exempt to the typical westernized name order that has affected the rest of the cast except for what looks like Minamoto no Yoshitsune and Abe no Seimei.
Since their names were changed in the western release, theres a very high chance hers will be as well.
  • Minamoto no Yoshitsune - Yoshitsune Minamoto
  • Abe no Seimei - Seimei Abe
  • Tamamo no Mae - Mae Tamamo
I'm just following the naming theme that Koei them selves have done. If it turns out that's not the case and she keeps her standard name spelling in the games western release, I'll change it. But for now, I'll leave it as it is.
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Seimei and Taigong Wang too. :yes:

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Mae Tamamo is a mythological Japanese figure from the late Heian period. She is either a two or nine-tailed fox who is known for her beauty and wicked cunning. Japanese folklore may compare her to Daji or state that Tamamo is a Japanese pseudonym for her. This version is often defeated by Seimei or his descendants or Taigong Wang.

That can't be just a coincidence!
Based on the furred wrap placed around her shoulders I am guessing they are going with her two-tailed fox stories. I am curious as to what her interactions with Daji, Shuten Doji, Seimei, and Wang will be like. I also have a feeling she may chastise Daji's friendship with Himiko, and maybe even try to get rid of Himiko to help Daji focus on 'whats important'.

Its quite possible this Mae's inclusion in the series may end up helping define Daji's true nature. Does Daji still want to be a evil demon who enjoys destruction like in her series debut, or is she content with becoming a kind and caring person that Himiko is slowly turning her into?

It will be very interesting to see this unfold.
Okay, I was reading up on the Koei wiki about some of the legends regarding Mae, and I stumbled across something very interesting.

Apparently in one of the legends regarding her character, she is the biological mother of Seimei Abe! How cool would it be if Koei used this as the basis of developing her Warriors counterpart? If she was depicted as Seimeis mother, it would add a bit more depth to both their characters, dont ya think?
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I have a feeling that Seimei will be to Tamamo as Taigong Wang is to Daji.

As for her bio on the official website, I got somebody who knew Japanese to translate it, and it says that she "holds a strong grudge towards humanity because of the wars"...?

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Reading that, I wonder if Tamamo's character will revolve around the whole "Humans are evil because they kill each other" schtick. Having just seen that she's siding with Orochi and Da Ji yet having her own agenda makes me all the more curious about her character.

I don't really recall any WO character having something like that, outside of Taigong Wang and Kaguya giving their own thoughts towards humanity, or Nu Wa passing judgment of Cao Cao.
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^ My guess is that she wants to speeden the world's destruction after the Hydra's death? That would serve as a good antagonizing event for the heroes of the new storyline to deal with, because when I read a translation of Xu Shu's bio it said that he had joined the main hero party to PREVENT the world's destruction.

I'm still not entirely sure about the translation of Tamamo's bio, however, because the person who translated it had a good but non-professional level at Japanese. Maybe BK or Daikyo or anybody else who has real good Japanese on here can translate it?
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That would be interesting if that were the case.

IIRC, Orochi never really wanted to destroy the world. He either wanted to find worthy challengers or wanted to rule it. Da Ji and Kiyomori followed him to an extent, but either took it a little more seriously or, in the case of Da Ji, treat it like a sadistic game.

If Tamamo is the one who actually wants the world destroyed, could she be considered the greater evil then? Granted it would help if we got more accurately translated info, but it certainly is interesting to think about. The motives of the "Orochi Army" in the past games have rather been kinda sketchy in that regard.
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Actually, Orochi just created the world to gather all the best warriors and find one who could end him. It's almost as if he's seeking punishment for a past crime, which I think will be revealed in the Prologue part of WO3: U's storyline.

Well, I guess it is likely then that Tamamo will be the final, most dangerous villainess. Because all the others (Da Ji, Kiyomori) all follow Orochi, who just wants to end himself. That and the fact that Tamamo has her own secret agenda supports the point.
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Oh yeah, technically the world they inhabit (Which I'll now call Orochi Land) is an amalgam of DW's and SW's China and Japan, as well as bits and pieces of other places courtesy of the guest stars.

So would Tamamo want to just destroy Orochi Land in a sense that the fusion will be undone? Or does she want to END END the world?
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She has the status of an imposing woman with power. You can see it by looking at her drawing. I don't think she really cares about Orochi and Da Ji. She probably uses them quietly for a specific purpose. I'll not be surprised if she kills Da Ji or something like that, once her true face is shown. But yes, if done right, she'd be a really good villain.

Oh, and I find it funny how her design is far more traditional and realistic than the DW/
SW women, considering the fact that she's a fox spirit. :hehe:
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