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| Sengoku Musou 2 HD Collection; For the PS3 and Vita on PSN.jp & PSN.EU | |
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| Wynter | Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:45 pm Post #101 |
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I just found a bug on this game. If you play Infinity Castle, start on floor 50 and you encounter a floor in which you have to eliminate Sky Ninjas (the one that goes underground) and if you jump and land at the same time with the Sky Ninjas the game will freeze and will cause your controller to vibrate constantly. The game will just freeze and you have to turn off the console, which can also cause your other save files to be corrupted. I hope there will be an update soon! Edited by Wynter, Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:46 pm.
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| Divine Justice | Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:43 pm Post #102 |
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Soft reset trick won't work so well here, there is no soft reset Best you have is to exit from the menu and then reload the data. There are trophy lists on the KOEI wiki: http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_Warriors_2 |
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| Princefan1 | Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:43 am Post #103 |
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I'm wanting to import this but don't know whether or not to get the premium version. What characters are on the postcards? Also what exactly is in the premium version? Is Imagawa Yoshimoto on one of the cards? Edited by Princefan1, Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:43 am.
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| ZealousTactician | Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:03 am Post #104 |
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Why can they not release an english version? They already have all the voice work done. Can it be THAT hard to put it on the PSn for DL? I mean they have like old games like DW5 empires and junk......CMON KOEI |
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| Princefan1 | Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:22 am Post #105 |
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I hope hope hope hope hope they put out Sengoku Musou 1 & XL as an hd collection... Anyway, back on topic: Are the graphics in this hd collection better or the same as Musou Orochi Z? |
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| Divine Justice | Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:16 pm Post #106 |
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I'd say probably around the same, maybe slightly worse since WO2 looked better (IMO at least) than SW2. Honestly, the graphics have really only been up-res'd, as far as I can tell. The textures themselves are still pretty bland and the character models themselves don't stand up to the SW3 models. Though the character models and effects are still probably the best looking parts of this game. SW2 was in general a very flashy game when it came to effects, so at the very least that part looks quite nice. |
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| MioKyun | Fri Jan 3, 2014 3:27 pm Post #107 |
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I have a problem with the trophie : "Accumulate over 100,000 gold" with the Yoshimoto's face. I have already obtained many times over 100 000 ryo but I've never obtained the trophie... Is it really 100 000 or... 1 000 000 ? This is the last trophie I don't own with all of the weapons. |
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| Divine Justice | Fri Jan 3, 2014 5:05 pm Post #108 |
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Possess over 1 million ryo |
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| MioKyun | Fri Jan 3, 2014 6:53 pm Post #109 |
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Ok thanks. We can cumulate the number or we have to own 1 million in the pocket ? |
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| Divine Justice | Sat Jan 4, 2014 12:24 am Post #110 |
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Sounds like you need all of it at once, but I'm not 100% sure and I can't check other sources at the moment. Do report back if you find out though! |
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| dirtyharry11 | Wed Jan 8, 2014 2:38 am Post #111 |
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Hi there everyone, new user here but longtime Warriors fan. My Vita has been collecting dust so I just reset it today to be able to access the JPN PSN store in order to get this game (SW2 is one of my all time favorite Warriors games). Problem is, I don't see it available for download anywhere! I'm looking at this link: http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/jp0106pcsg00233_00jm2exver01000000.html Has anyone else run into this problem? How did you guys purchase it? I hope I'm not too late to get it, seeing as how the game just came out in October... edit: nevermind, I found the correct link. As soon as my PSN card comes in, I will be picking this up. Can't wait! Edited by dirtyharry11, Wed Jan 8, 2014 2:53 am.
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| Divine Justice | Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:55 pm Post #112 |
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I actually bought the physical disk for PS3. I'm interested to hear about how the Vita version holds up though! Be sure to post your impressions when you get it
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| Hanzo Hattori | Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:31 am Post #113 |
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I really wish this made its way to overseas... SW2 is my favorite numbered title by far. |
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| dirtyharry11 | Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:48 am Post #114 |
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Well, I got the Vita version of the game and am very happy with it. I experienced some framerate drops when I was in a castle fighting an officer who was powered up (Kotaro Fuma), as well as the in game cutscenes after you defeat an officer and they either run away or die, but besides that the game actually runs quite well. I've played 7 story modes so far (Yukimura, Kenshin, Mitsuhide, Nobunaga, Keiji, Katsuie, Masamune) and have no intentions of stopping any time soon. The game itself looks fantastic, everything from the graphics, character models, elemental attacks/effects, cutscenes, etc. especially compared to Samurai Warriors Chronicles on the 3DS (which I've been playing extensively before getting this game). Not mine, but here's a gameplay video of the game on Vita for anyone who's curious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xebz_SxDAmE It really does live up to being Samurai Warriors 2 + XL on the go. If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask. Edited by dirtyharry11, Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:51 am.
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:55 am Post #115 |
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SW2 is my favorite SW game, i want to get this one, i may pre order it with SW4... |
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| Fūma | Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:37 am Post #116 |
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Agreed. I recently replayed SW2 (have in on PS2) and still enjoyed it even though the graphics are outdated. I think this game had the perfect amount of characters. Now it's all going to be like DW-series when they just keep adding tons of new ones, SW4's probably have over 50 characters... I might be in the minority in the forum but I don't like that... I'd much prefer a small yet more focused cast. Honestly I'd say this is best Koei title they ever made. There were so much innovation in terms of gameplay (new moveset types, special skills, 3-bar musous...) and like I said earlier, this game had the perfect amount of characters Plus the voice acting was easily best in the series (SW3's just fail in that department). And the designs, for most characters, were the best in the series. I don't really like those new designs in SW4... especially for the new ones (Kojuro has glasses, wtf?).And yeah sucks the HD version didn't get released here. Edited by Fūma, Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:07 pm.
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| Divine Justice | Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:59 pm Post #117 |
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While I do like this game, I couldn't disagree more with almost everything you said here. I agree on the moveset types and 3-bar musous (although the current idea of having each of the 3 bars be separate is better, IMO). The special skills have always been all but useless. The only useful ones were horse call (which is thankfully universal now), the musou recharge ones (Tadakatsu and Musashi), the elemental enhancement ones (Ina, Nagamasa, and Motonari) and the grapple ones. Pretty much everything else was either incredibly awkward, did next to no damage, etc. Nothing would make me happier than if specials were either dropped or completely revamped in SW4, because as it stands they're the least useful part of a character's moveset. When you say the voice acting was best, I assume you're referring to the English version. Here again, I really disagree. SW2 is generally agreed to have the worst acting. Many voices don't fit the characters, the acting itself is terrible, and a lot of the writing is just off the wall. There's a small handful of voice talent in SW2 that I wouldn't mind coming back (e.g. Mitsunari, Hideyoshi, Tadakatsu), but many more that I never want to hear again (e.g. Keiji, Nobunaga, Noh, Hanzo, Ranmaru). I don't own the English version of SW3, but from what I've heard from watching all of the cutscenes, at least the acting itself is far superior. Some of the casting is a little questionable (Troy Baker as Hanzo is a little weird, for example), but for the most part they did an excellent job here, so I'm really curious to hear your reasons for preferring SW2 acting to SW3. As far as designs go, they generally improve with each installment for me, with a few minor exceptions. For example, I really loved Yukimura's SW3 costume - I somehow don't see them topping this one for me any time soon. It's the perfect combination of style and flare. Kanetsugu's SW3 costume as well - helmet looks perfect and love the hakama. For SW4 though, the likes of Shingen, Masamune, Ranmaru, Tadakatsu, and Sakon have never looked better, whereas I'm sure the rest will grow on me in time. |
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| Fūma | Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:43 pm Post #118 |
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^Okay, I try to be reasonable here. Watch a few English cutscenes of SW2 in Youtube. Then watch some English cutscenes of SW3. Honestly, how can you say SW3 has better voice acting? Yes, some voices (e.g Keiji) are better in SW3, but the acting just suck. Even Troy Baker, who was amazing in FFXIII series and SB3, is just bad as Hanzo. Bad voice directing. It didn't also help they got rid of those different emotional faces in battles, which was present in SW1 and SW2. Great voice actors, but apparently voice director sucked. Now what new did SW3 bring on the table, in terms of gameplay? Nothing, except one new cancelling move and the musou kaiden thing. Compared to SW3's different musous, new moveset types, new special skills, that's a lot less. Everyone's moveset except Oichi's was identical to their SW2 versions (while SW2 changed many of the original characters's movesets). Not to mention SW2 changed the storyline a lot for most characters by going beyond Nobunaga's reign. They also introduced dream stages, while SW3 had nothing new in story mode structure (only five stages each). They also added 10 new characters, while SW3 only added 7. Also, since sequels are supposed to have better graphics than previous games (which was the case in SW1 -> SW2), how on earth did SW3 on Wii have worse graphics (and choppy framerate) than SW2 on Xbox? Wii-exclusivity ruined the game (and I don't count SW3Z since it wasn't revealed overseas). And then there's the soundtrack. SW3 overused the flute way too much. To be honest, most songs in this game are not as memorable as in SW1/SW2. Now about those designs, it really depends on the character. In general, I prefer SW2 on most characters. But anyway, SW4's design choices (e.g Kojuro has glasses, Koshosho's hair...) are really, really weird. One thing about SW3 what I did like though, is that the stories in general were better, and characters had more interactions with characters. But this was kinda ruined by bad voice acting... And no, don't get me wrong, I don't want to be offensive or anything like that (may seem like that, because this one's my favorite Koei game to date, can't help defending it). These are just opinions after all, and it just seems we have very different opinions...
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| Hanzo Hattori | Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:52 pm Post #119 |
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The graphics are still not that bad with the proper hookups I can understand where you're coming from too. It was very innovative and introduced a lot of features we now see as common in current DW/SW games. I really like how there were sooo many unlockables, especially in Survival Mode where you could upgrade a couple skills like Master past the cap of 3 when certain conditions were fulfilled. Everyone had unique CG cutscenes and stories. I absolutely LOVED this. Some were even tear-jerkers (for me) and others got you thinking like... what if that really did happen and history was re-written accordingly. Kotaro's last CG cutscene with Ieyasu still sends a chill down my spine. It was brilliant and a good example of what I am saying. He literally tells Ieyasu to erase all evidence of how he obtained power, and then vanishes into the darkness. Everything goes silet and Ieyasu just sits there in silent contemplation. Where did Kotaro go? It's a mystery, but it was chillingly awesome. He did this a lot, even with Musashi, which was also a great ending. Hanzo's ending with Hideyoshi... simple and sweet. Ginchiyo, Ieyasu, Tadakatsu... they all conveyed a special message. And then there's Yoshihiro, how he changed in a way after killing Ginchiyo, and he kind of explains it to Toyohisa afterward. It just had a huge impact, like how the times were changing and nothing would be the same, but you have to keep moving forward but keep the memories and legacies of the fallen with you. It was honorable. The music was fantastic. Almost kind of techno and synthesized in some places. In regards to the voice acting, I am forced to agree with Fuuma. I had little to no problems whatsoever with the VAs and thought everyone was great (not saying that out of nostalgia). If anything, the only VAs I wish they brought over from SW1 would be: Kenshin Shingen Nobunaga Noh Hanzo Ieyasu Magoichi It took me a while to get used to these fellows, but once I really got into the game (hours and hours with each story), I came to appreciate them more, especially Nobunaga's "Is that so?" line he would always say Kotaro was awesome. Hanzo REALLY grew on me (it's why I made my username back in 2006) Kojiro was creepy cool. Yoshihiro, Ginchiyo, Kojiro, and the other new characters did a great job. |
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| Divine Justice | Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:13 am Post #120 |
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Well that's the thing - I did. As stated, I agree with you about Troy Baker. He's a great voice actor, but he just doesn't fit Hanzo. It's the same thing that happened with Kirk Thornton and Tadakatsu in SW1. While I will give you that some SW3 acting was bad, I would definitely say there was more good acting than in SW2. Kyle Hebert as Ujiyasu just oozes badass, and I also really love Christopher Corey Smith as Nobunaga. I think the biggest losses from SW1 are really Shingen, Mitsuhide, Magoichi, and Hanzo. For SW2 only Mitsunari, Hideyoshi, Tadakatsu. Everyone else I am more than happy with the SW3 voice acting.
Well sure, I'm not arguing that SW1 -> SW2 wasn't a bigger leap than SW2 -> SW3, but that doesn't mean SW2's gameplay is better than SW3's. Don't get me wrong, there are many aspects of SW2's gameplay that are superior to SW3's, e.g. for example the attack speed, skills per character rather than on equipment and weapons, etc. But there are also aspects of SW3 gameplay that SW2 is lacking: the Rengi system (Eigi + Kaiden), the item system, etc. Overall I would tend to agree that SW2 is more fun from a gameplay perspective, but that doesn't mean SW3 has nothing going for it.
Well, to be fair, each new game always changes up the story a bit. SW2 lacks some prominent parts of the era though, most especially the earlier stuff e.g. Okehazama and Inabayama. I know that Okehazama was added in XL, but the fact that it is missing from Nobunaga's story is pretty killer. Dreams stages are missing, sure, but branching paths (one of the best parts of SW1) are missing from SW2. So as far as story goes, we've really only been doing the one-step-forward-two-back routine Also, with regards to SW2 story, let's not forget the massive amounts of repetition (IIRC, over 2/3 of the cast have one of the two Odawara stages and Sekigahara; another large chunk has Anegawa) and the abysmal village rescue/pirate hunt stages.
Well, SM3Z does count since it exists. It's more fair to compare SW2 on PS2 vs. SW3 on Wii and SW2 on X360 vs. SM3Z on PS3. Or even SM2 HD Collection vs SM3Z (both on PS3) would probably be the most fair comparison. For the latter, SM3Z really is the best looking game. It isn't as flashy, but the textures are noticeably better, and the framerate only rarely drops.
I will definitely give you this! SW3's soundtrack is very boring overall. SW2 did a much better job in this department.
Hey, not a problem! I asked for your reasons and you gave them to me. It wouldn't be very fair for me to be offended by that.
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| SnowMan | Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:54 am Post #121 |
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I wish this game came out in the US. I've had the urge to play SW2 this week and I don't feel like breaking out the old PS2. |
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| MioKyun | Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:32 pm Post #122 |
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Just one thing ... I platined the game yesterday and in the end... Yes, we have to own 1 million at once. Thank you so much Hideyoshi with your special skill ! And greed lvl 4 of course. Komaki is a great and speed battle (Hashiba's side) to gain lots of gold. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:40 pm Post #123 |
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SW2 is my favorite SW game ever, even the costumes of the characters are great, looks like a true samurai costumes. I will pre order this SW game and i will re the old good memories with HD graphics. |
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| LegendaryDragonWarrior | Sun Feb 9, 2014 5:43 pm Post #124 |
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Sorry for double post but i must post in this topic. Well just got this game yesterday and the graphics are really really amazing, here are some screeshots. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Divine Justice | Sun Feb 9, 2014 7:22 pm Post #125 |
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The character models are decent, but in terms of things like textures, framerate, etc. SM3Z typically beats this game out. Let's not even discuss the FMVs in this game, because those are objectively far worse quality than SM3Z. They just downright have not aged well at all. All of the in-engine scenes look pretty nice though. Just another argument against FMVs ![]() It's still a fun game, mind you. Just don't be fooled, these graphics are far from good quality. |
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Best you have is to exit from the menu and then reload the data. 



Plus the voice acting was easily best in the series (SW3's just fail in that department). And the designs, for most characters, were the best in the series. I don't really like those new designs in SW4... especially for the new ones (Kojuro has glasses, wtf?).
These are just opinions after all, and it just seems we have very different opinions...





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