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Counting the MS Roster; Over 120 = <129?
Topic Started: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:10 am (4,624 Views)
Ma Su
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wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:22 am
bad badass guys don't use gundam!, Ali would only be accepted to the group if he uses his Enact+that crab MA thing from S1...
I was under the impression that the Turn X was a gundam...
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Joshelplex
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:43 am
One thing I do worry though, were Ali to get in: Setsuna's line "WHERE IS YOUR GOD!? ANSWER ME!?" Is hilariously used out of context all the time as a random quote in DWG3. I hope that Ali's presence wouldn't force them to have him save it for him. It's easily one of the funniest lines in the game when he just randomly spouts it for no reason after shooting down some poor sap.
Probably one of the best responses I've seen to that line in 3 was when Heero responded with "I don't believe in a higher power." :lol:

In spite of the fact that 00 has gotten tons of adds from 3, I still want to see Ali Al in Shin. He's just awesome and the interactions he could have with Gym and Yazan would be amazing.
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wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:22 am
bad badass guys don't use gundam!, Ali would only be accepted to the group if he uses his Enact+that crab MA thing from S1...
I was under the impression that the Turn X was a gundam...
It's never actually been confirmed as one. Most people assume it is, because logic would suggest so, but le creator refuses to actually clarify.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:36 am
wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:22 am
bad badass guys don't use gundam!, Ali would only be accepted to the group if he uses his Enact+that crab MA thing from S1...
I was under the impression that the Turn X was a gundam...
It's never actually been confirmed as one. Most people assume it is, because logic would suggest so, but le creator refuses to actually clarify.
They refuse?! For what purpose could they possibly refuse?!
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:28 am
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:36 am
wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:22 am
bad badass guys don't use gundam!, Ali would only be accepted to the group if he uses his Enact+that crab MA thing from S1...
I was under the impression that the Turn X was a gundam...
It's never actually been confirmed as one. Most people assume it is, because logic would suggest so, but le creator refuses to actually clarify.
They refuse?! For what purpose could they possibly refuse?!
The definition of a Gundam is notoriously vague, and Sunrise likes to keep it that way.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:28 am
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:36 am
wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:22 am
bad badass guys don't use gundam!, Ali would only be accepted to the group if he uses his Enact+that crab MA thing from S1...
I was under the impression that the Turn X was a gundam...
It's never actually been confirmed as one. Most people assume it is, because logic would suggest so, but le creator refuses to actually clarify.
They refuse?! For what purpose could they possibly refuse?!
The definition of a Gundam is notoriously vague, and Sunrise likes to keep it that way.
Oh... That purpose... Well, as far as I am concerned "brother" of a Gundam=Gundam (Yes, that means that the Gundam Gerbera is a Gundam, but the Gerbera Tetra is not)
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deepwas a gundam...
It's never actually been confirmed as one. Most people assume it is, because logic would suggest so, but le creator refuses to actually clarify.
They refuse?! For what purpose could they possibly refuse?!
The definition of a Gundam is notoriously vague, and Sunrise likes to keep it that way.
Oh... That purpose... Well, as far as I am concerned "brother" of a Gundam=Gundam (Yes, that means that the Gundam Gerbera is a Gundam, but the Gerbera Tetra is not)
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:08 am
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Sorry it took me 7 minutes to respond, I just couldn't stop laughing. Maybe it committed suicide, and that's really why Cima looked so surprised?
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a Gundam is called a Gundam if it has a gundam head, a GM with a Gundam head is called the Ground Type Gundam...go figure, on the other hand, Zaku Zeta is not a Gundam anymore :(

Turn X top (a.k.a the creepy floating head cockpit) is obviously Zeonic in design, with the Zaku-like camera and all that, not to mention the full lime green color scheme
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wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:01 pm
a Gundam is called a Gundam if it has a gundam head, a GM with a Gundam head is called the Ground Type Gundam...go figure, on the other hand, Zaku Zeta is not a Gundam anymore :(

Turn X top (a.k.a the creepy floating head cockpit) is obviously Zeonic in design, with the Zaku-like camera and all that, not to mention the full lime green color scheme
Zaku-like camera?

Turn-X has two Gundam eyes

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And a distorted V-fin there. Not to mention it was originally white.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:01 pm
a Gundam is called a Gundam if it has a gundam head, a GM with a Gundam head is called the Ground Type Gundam...go figure, on the other hand, Zaku Zeta is not a Gundam anymore :(
I'm sorry, but it isn't all that different from the Turn A. It's a Gundam in everything but name.
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wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:01 pm
a Gundam is called a Gundam if it has a gundam head, a GM with a Gundam head is called the Ground Type Gundam...go figure, on the other hand, Zaku Zeta is not a Gundam anymore :(
I'm sorry, but it isn't all that different from the Turn A. It's a Gundam in everything but name.
Turn A is called "Turn A Gundam". It's right there in the title of the show, actually.

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i didn't remember the title having "called turn A gundam" line below the actual logo

so the title in full reads "A Gundam called Turn A Gundam",sounds like a Hayao Miyazaki anime title :kurokan:
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Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:32 am
i didn't remember the title having "called turn A gundam" line below the actual logo

so the title in full reads "A Gundam called Turn A Gundam",sounds like a Hayao Miyazaki anime title :kurokan:
Well they were worried nobody would know how to pronounce an upside down A
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wodash
Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:01 pm
a Gundam is called a Gundam if it has a gundam head, a GM with a Gundam head is called the Ground Type Gundam...go figure, on the other hand, Zaku Zeta is not a Gundam anymore :(
I'm sorry, but it isn't all that different from the Turn A. It's a Gundam in everything but name.
Turn A is called "Turn A Gundam". It's right there in the title of the show, actually.

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I was saying that the Turn X was a Gundam in everything but name...
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I like the idea of it not being one, just because I miss the days of the enemy ace suit NOT being a Gundam. Despite that, it basically is, especially because Turn A has no distinction for what makes a Gundam a Gundam, unlike what we gad in UC, SEED, 00 or some of the others.
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Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:16 pm
I like the idea of it not being one, just because I miss the days of the enemy ace suit NOT being a Gundam. Despite that, it basically is, especially because Turn A has no distinction for what makes a Gundam a Gundam, unlike what we gad in UC, SEED, 00 or some of the others.
I think AGE and 00 had a majority of the enemy aces not piloting a gundam. And other than Ali and Nena they only got the Gundam for a short amount of time.
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But the final battle with Ribbons was Gundam to Gundam. I feel that limiting it to Gundams reduces the uniqueness it could potentially have, Turn X being a great example, because it's really weird. See also: Zeong, Qubeley, The O, Sazabi and whatever the hell FF has in the last ep of UC.

Ali and Nina's Gundams weren't as bad because they abrely looked like Gundams, Arche specially, but the Reborns was kinda lame compared to the more unique looking MS and MAs the show had, like the Regnant or Susanowo.
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But if you compare the Final battle to the amount of screen time that other units got you can't really be that upset about it.
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The funny part is where a Turn X is the same as an Unturn X
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Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:16 pm
I like the idea of it not being one, just because I miss the days of the enemy ace suit NOT being a Gundam. Despite that, it basically is, especially because Turn A has no distinction for what makes a Gundam a Gundam, unlike what we gad in UC, SEED, 00 or some of the others.
I think AGE and 00 had a majority of the enemy aces not piloting a gundam. And other than Ali and Nena they only got the Gundam for a short amount of time.
In Gundam 00, only nine characters were able to pilot a Gundam at one point or another, four heroes, two villains, and three that were doing the bad guy's bidding without actually knowing it. Unfortunately, the last three had the weakest Gundam in the series.

Gundam AGE, for the most part, had Diva-type units, and it was Zeheart that was able to pilot a Gundam. That's what I can remember.
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So since Neo's Windam is allegedly in, as is Yzak, Dearka and Rey's Zaku allegedly, what's the total count now?
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The current confirmed count is 121.
If we add Neo's Windam and Rey & Yzak's ZAKU Phantoms now it'd be 124.
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Mon Dec 9, 2013 3:27 am
The current confirmed count is 121.
If we add Neo's Windam and Rey & Yzak's ZAKU Phantoms now it'd be 124.
With that and if the poster is showing 95%. We are likely to get over 130 units with the remaining 5% (hope so) and I would love that. I hope we get a better picture of the poster soon.
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We can theoretically assume Saviour, BuCUE and LaGOWE for GSD and that actually pads it out entirely to hit 127. We know Shamblo, Dark Gundam and Elmeth aren't playable MAs. There is that Gelgoog/Zaku 3 looking thing on the poster nobody can ID bringing us to 128. If we operate on the assumption Altron and Sandrock are in due to the DLC including an EW stage, we hit 130, and it may also be safe to bank on Spiegal at 131, and we hit 132 if we get another SD character like Ryufo Talgeese, Satan Gundam or Musha Nu, which seem to be the fan favs. This is all speculative of course, save that unidentified MS I mentioned that we're trying to ID in the other thread.
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