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What the future holds. . . for Gundam Musou; predictions & likely scenarios
Topic Started: Tue Jan 7, 2014 7:38 am (4,307 Views)
tyrox9
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:34 am
-Merge SEED and DESTINY and fill the holes (give us the savior etc)
Well, fill the holes i get, but what does merge Seed and Destiny mean? Is that implying they aren't already connected to each other? Does it mean just make 1 OM section for them? that wouldn't make much difference cause the number of missions wouldn't change because of that.

and why is 'filling in holes' in hopeful thinking? seems like a lot of each GM game is filling in the holes left out in the last games. If anything that's one of the most definite things to happen in the future of the series.
Edited by tyrox9, Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:37 pm.
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tyrox9
Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:34 pm
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:34 am
-Merge SEED and DESTINY and fill the holes (give us the savior etc)
Well, fill the holes i get, but what does merge Seed and Destiny mean? Is that implying they aren't already connected to each other? Does it mean just make 1 OM section for them? that wouldn't make much difference cause the number of missions wouldn't change because of that.

and why is 'filling in holes' in hopeful thinking? seems like a lot of each GM game is filling in the holes left out in the last games. If anything that's one of the most definite things to happen in the future of the series.
Well a lot of people hate Seed in general, so I bet they want it gone from OM completely. On the other hand, I enjoy both seed and destiny, so Id want them to return in OM (hence wishful thinking). And in terms of merging them, yeah, you interpreted it correctly, I want them to have seed and destiny as a signle CE story.
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But, like, why? there's a time difference, and whole different story to it. and the 1st mission of Destiny is already after the last mission of seed... so making it one OM is pointless.

and it couldn't work well, because difficulty steadily rises as an OM mode goes on, and Shinn would be played for the early majority of Destiny. so if they were literally combined like that than a level 1 Shinn would be played in a like level 20 something mission, and since you cant play as these characters in UM until you beat their OM mode, you can't train him yet either...

is it, just like... you dont like seeing two selections on the menu, one for seed, and another for destiny. so you wanna be able to access them in one button press? is that the reason why?
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people don't hate seed they hate seed destiny's ending
Edited by gundamfan4000, Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:51 am.
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I hate Kira stealing Shinn's Main Character slot in the show.

Glad Banpresto knows who the real Main Character is and rightfully makes the SRW games about Shinn as the Main Character.
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:26 am
But, like, why? there's a time difference, and whole different story to it. and the 1st mission of Destiny is already after the last mission of seed... so making it one OM is pointless.

and it couldn't work well, because difficulty steadily rises as an OM mode goes on, and Shinn would be played for the early majority of Destiny. so if they were literally combined like that than a level 1 Shinn would be played in a like level 20 something mission, and since you cant play as these characters in UM until you beat their OM mode, you can't train him yet either...

is it, just like... you dont like seeing two selections on the menu, one for seed, and another for destiny. so you wanna be able to access them in one button press? is that the reason why?

lol Im confusing you :P

Nah its not about one button press, I just like to group my gundam anime based on the universe they're in. For example, think of 00, its set in AD. There is a time-skip between the two seasons, yet the whole story will be set in AD (and wont have 2 separate OM's for 00). Now I get that Shin is weak at the start of destiny, so thats a good point. However, they could easily have a narrator say that peace was achieved, blah blah but not for long blah blah 3 years later.. and start the beginning of destiny.


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I hate Kira stealing Shinn's Main Character slot in the show.

Glad Banpresto knows who the real Main Character is and rightfully makes the SRW games about Shinn as the Main Character.


I personally hate Kira and Shinn equally, Athrun for life :heart:
In seed, Kira stole the mc role and pissed me off "stop fighting!" and "why cant we all be peaceful?!"
--yet proceeds to spam op lasers and blowing everything up--

and in destiny Athruns mc spot was stolen by Shinn, who had major anger management problems. And about halfway, when Athrun escaped, Kira shows up again and f*****g steals the mc spot again! :realangry:

To hell with all of them, I want another season with only Athrun! (ps. its halarious how he has so many beautiful women around him, who all want him, yet he never stops thinking about the war and Kira lmao)
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I would definitely prefer SEED/Destiny should have a few more adds to fix the story holes presented in this title and I would prefer at least for the Duel, Buster, and Blitz gundams to be upgraded to class 1s. The bio CPUs' and extendeds' gundams deserve it too but there are other class 2s that deserve the upgrade prior to them. Suits like the Zeong, Gottrlatan, Baund Doc, and the Palace Athene. Personally I'd like to see the Gyan get a upgrade or maybe Bolinoak Sammahn.
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Athrun got a lot of focus in the compilation movies. Besides, Shinn didn't take any slot from him. Athrun was his mentor and he was being the Quattro to Shinn's Kamille. Than Kira returned and all hell went loose.
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Y'know, after watching more gameplay of the blitz I hope they drop the ASP altogether and make the current GSP the ASP and for the new GSP have the blitz activated mirage colloid and start to attack a concentrated area by uncloaking and slashing through the area and repeating this from different angles for a certain duration. Stocks of sp meter decide duration.
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With crossbone X-1 in I now hope for something as unknown as the Phantom Gundan make it in eventually because I love the Phantom's design.
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People keep talking about the missing SEED and Destiny missions and I'm just sitting here wondering why battles that were in GM2 mysteriously disappeared.
First Gundam missed the Duel in Texas Colony
Zeta Gundam lost the Battle on Kilamanjaro and anything involved with Rosamia Badam.

It's hard to pick what I really want in these games. The Gundam Meta-series is just so large that you can never keep everybody happy.
My major wants are probably:
Transforming grunts to actually transform
Making the Mobile Armours actually fun to play
Original Modes that are playable from multiple perspectives
The TV version of Zeta's ending... Unless you actually manage to save everybody
Suits with variable Burst Modes
Ideon as the guest MS/MA (Cosmo Yuki as the pilot is optional). That could make for an interesting Original Mode. Quick, everybody stop fighting and play nice. Because if you don't, EVERYONE WILL KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MOST BRUTAL FASHION POSSIBLE AND THEN THE UNIVERSE WILL CEASE TO EXIST.
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People keep talking about the missing SEED and Destiny missions and I'm just sitting here wondering why battles that were in GM2 mysteriously disappeared.
First Gundam missed the Duel in Texas Colony
Zeta Gundam lost the Battle on Kilamanjaro and anything involved with Rosamia Badam.

The Rosamia stuff is missing because she doesn't appear in the movies. or at least she dies earlier than in the series. At least that's what I've heard, I've never seen the movies
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:48 pm
The Rosamia stuff is missing because she doesn't appear in the movies. or at least she dies earlier than in the series. At least that's what I've heard, I've never seen the movies
Rosamia appeared in the first segment of the movies pilotting a Gaplant if I recall correctly as she did in the original Zeta Gundam. She was shot down just like in the original anime and she escaped like in the original anime. She never actually died in the movie. The Psycho Gundam MK II stuff was clearly just cut from the movies to save time and room.
Edited by Re4_Wesker, Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:44 am.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:48 pm
The Rosamia stuff is missing because she doesn't appear in the movies. or at least she dies earlier than in the series. At least that's what I've heard, I've never seen the movies
Rosamia appeared in the first segment of the movies pilotting a Gaplant if I recall correctly as she did in the original Zeta Gundam. She was shot down just like in the original anime and she escaped like in the original anime. She never actually died in the movie. The Psycho Gundam MK II stuff was clearly just cut from the movies to save time and room.
rosamias jp va for the films had a messy divorce with the casting director.
Edited by gundamfan4000, Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:31 am.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:48 pm
The Rosamia stuff is missing because she doesn't appear in the movies. or at least she dies earlier than in the series. At least that's what I've heard, I've never seen the movies
Rosamia appeared in the first segment of the movies pilotting a Gaplant if I recall correctly as she did in the original Zeta Gundam. She was shot down just like in the original anime and she escaped like in the original anime. She never actually died in the movie. The Psycho Gundam MK II stuff was clearly just cut from the movies to save time and room.
rosamias jp va for the films had a messy divorce with the casting director.
guess she lost the role in the settlement.

buddah-bing
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Man, Japan and it's weird VA issues. Anywhere else and they'd just recast the hell outta her.
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Man, Japan and it's weird VA issues. Anywhere else and they'd just recast the hell outta her.
they take va'ing much more seriously over there

also the movies were in production when it happened so they probably had not enough time to replace her or wanted to put effort in other things.
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Man, Japan and it's weird VA issues. Anywhere else and they'd just recast the hell outta her.
they take va'ing much more seriously over there

also the movies were in production when it happened so they probably had not enough time to replace her or wanted to put effort in other things.
Animations are bigger in their culture. it's more relevant even to older viewers. What Pixar is like for us, is what most animation is for them. So their VA, or Seiyu, are treated more like Actors.
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The thought occurred to me recently that we may see Hathaway's Flash in the next game. Given the news that the last OVA of Unicorn will somehow set the stage for Hathaway's Flash, implying that Hathaway's Flash will be their next OVA project after Unicorn, We might see a OVA or two of Hathaway's Flash before we see another DWG game. If not next game then probably the game after that (assuming they continue to make them of course).
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The thought occurred to be recently that we may see Hathaway's Flash in the next game. Given the news that the last OVA of Unicorn will somehow set the stage for Hathaway's Flash, implying that Hathaway's Flash will be their next OVA project after Unicorn, We might see a OVA or two of Hathaway's Flash before we see another DWG game. If not next game then probably the game after that (assuming they continue to make them of course).
if that's the case then a remake of f91 and then a crossbone gundam ova must happen after Hathaway's flash
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I expect them to add lots of 00 suits and official mode, and finish Unicorn already
ZZ should not be difficult to implement
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I expect them to add lots of 00 suits and official mode, and finish Unicorn already
ZZ should not be difficult to implement
not a matter of it being difficult, but rather they don't want it.
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And also the issue of the Puru's VA being dead and all too. The fact remains that they haven't chosen a new VA for Puru and Puru Two, as it's a very sensitive issue with the Japanese fanbase. At the same time, this would eliminate the possibility of a good, voice acted, cutscene filled original mode if they left it like this for too long.

This will likely affect ZZ's Official Mode status for a while unless they plan to get a new VA.

00 may or may not have an Official Mode. ATM, there's no evidence pointing to such a fact, but at the same time, we can't be sure. Koei and Bandai went out of their way to include nearly every damn suit from SEED and Destiny that was Class 2 or higher. They very likely could give 00 the same, down to the piss-poor number of stages. Then I will laugh when everyone who supported SEED and Destiny's dominance in SGM throws a fit over 00 having the same treatment.
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I'm sure if they wanted to make an Official Mode the Puru's could very easily just use Voice Data they already have for their lines without any trouble. Their deaths should only really hurt their chances at crossover talk until they get a clue and just recast them.

Wouldn't mind seeing 00 or Wing be the next show to get Official treatment, while Seed's Official Mode wasn't the most fleshed out this time though, I found it fun enough and expect them to build on it like they did in earlier games.
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Except it clearly did affect whatever they were planning on doing for ZZ, since they outright cut ZZ's Official Mode. If Koei is to expand ZZ's Official Mode in anyway, a new VA has to be found for Puru and Puru Two, since their roles would likely require new dialogue; and yes, the fact that crossover interactions would be hurt even more by the lack of a VA is far more important. The fact that we're stuck with text based interactions with no voiced dialogue or cutscenes is disappointing.

No, there doesn't need to be ANOTHER official mode added right after we just included three more to the Official Mode roster. Three shows that are not only still missing characters, but are incomplete in their stages as well. Adding another Official Mode on top of this would be poor judgement on Koei's part, and take away from the attention that needs to be paid to other shows that currently need new pilots and MS. G, F91, Victory, X, ZZ, and Turn A are missing major characters and MS. With Crossbone and 0083 getting the GP03 and the X-1 Kai, I would expect those to have some expansion in the next game as well.

At most, I'm willing to go along with some big additions for 00 and Wing though. 00 still needs Ali Al Saachez and his glorious Arche Gundam, and Wing still needs to finish the Wing Boys, possibly adding in the EW suits for the now completed cast. Same for 00 with the AWOT suits, since the 00 QanT is in. Other than that, I feel those slots should be reserved for balanced additions.
Edited by Master Omega, Mon Feb 3, 2014 10:35 pm.
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