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| Jaster | Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:18 pm Post #3026 |
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Well Big Zams only good move is its T move...ya thats it lol, the kicking it does feels so lazy and has to be used just right to hit the enemy,, they had plenty of other moves they coulda chosen from the AI MAs moves, hell zam doesnt even get the AI MAs super Mega cannon thats blue and much more powerful. Alphas honestly IMO on par with quin mantha, its moves may seem bland but once you understand how it works it controls wonderful. Destroy, been needing to get to this one, this thing has some crazy range for all its moves, but sadly like pretty much every playable version of MA, it still lacks in comparison to its AI version since ours has so little moves. in Players controls id list the MA in this list of whats bad to whats good imo. Worst: Big Zam, S string sucks and is limited on range, not to mention does so little dmg for a big freaking kick, last time i checked Big zams kicks where PAINFUL not shrug offs... Decent: Psyco and Psyco MKII tie here, both of there fight dmg is better than big zams at least(from what iv seen ingame), but still to low, its like the devs where piss scared to let your MA have some attack.... Good: Destroy: Range is great with this, and its a great crowd clearer, but sadly in 8 Star mission for MA VS MA, this suit falls short since enemy MAs STILL need to have their limbs destroyed b4 they can take direct dmg and nothing beats a Destroy player VS a Destroy CP on 8 star dif in feeling weak. Great: Alpha, ya this as iv said has great sweeping range with its S strings and its T attack, its also got a powerful SP attack to, only downside is space only fights.... Best: Quin Mantha, yep your reading this right, smallest MA is best lol, quins S string like all MAs need MORE dmg...but its S strings are easy to use and turn around instantly unlike some MAs...,Quins T attack is imo the best move for MAs and annoying OP aces since it stacks hits and does great dmg, quins SP could be better but meh for this game its good. Now for AI MAs in terms of how annoying there are to kill from easy to hard. Easy as Pie: Alpha, how ironic, the MA never puts up much challenge for me and seems to have lowest armor out of AI versions. Decent:Big zam, ya the AI big zam is better than ours(Big Shocker), its moves are more ranged than ours is, and on 8 star dif its cannon can nearly 1 shot a MS (non grunt) in a single blow with top near top stats. Slightly Annoying: Psyco and Psyco MKII, also tie since they have EXACTLY same moves......ya, funny thing about these guys are even though their scatter cannon looks crapper than the players, it still does more dmg lol. There more annoying when using MAs since you still got to destroy their limbs...just to deal normal dmg. A Pain: Quin Mantha, ya you more than likely saw this one, most cannon moves by quin have been buffed slightly, what makes this MA reach this high is the fact its new AI version of the funnel net is VERY OP, on 8 star dif, the attack can kill a MA with top settings in the game using top level pilots and skills in just 2-3 secs........ya step back or use SP to counter it lol OMG STOP SPAMING THIS: Destroy, ya number 1 in my most annoyed with list is destroy....for many reasons, Way to many limbs to destroy, to many large range moves, its cannon spinning move with green thin beams down is OP for AI, and the MA is used WAY to often in this game.....i mean really this thing is used more than any other MA... Im not adding Devil gundam to list since we cant use it outside of CB, but will say its rotating shoulder finger beam move is deadly to MAs lol. |
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| gundamfan4000 | Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:24 pm Post #3027 |
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nice how is the nu gundam from what i saw in videos it does not look like it changed much. |
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| Master Omega | Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:01 pm Post #3028 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnl9QcHrsM Nu Gundam gamplay for you, my friend. |
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| Joshelplex | Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:26 pm Post #3029 |
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is Nu Gundams C cancel shooting the bazooka off his back? It looks really silly |
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| LordKarasuman | Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:43 pm Post #3030 |
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Some random thoughts. Snipe, Hard Strike Player MA Health
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| Terrorcons45 | Wed Jan 1, 2014 12:07 am Post #3031 |
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HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY. Please does anyone know how to unlock Ral Gouf? Thank you. |
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| gundamfan4000 | Wed Jan 1, 2014 12:48 am Post #3032 |
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thanks in all but i was asking if any changes to nu gundam that was in this game than the previous due me not seeing the difference in the videos. manly because i was low on money and sold dwg 3 so i cant tell the diffrence still want hi nu gundam as dlc Edited by gundamfan4000, Wed Jan 1, 2014 1:00 am.
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| Master Omega | Wed Jan 1, 2014 1:08 am Post #3033 |
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No, that's its dash charge now. The charge cancel is its old dash charge from 2 and 3. Well, let's see: -Previous Dash Charge is now C1 Cancel. -Dash Charge is now Bazooka Backflip. -C6 fires Fin Funnels down on enemies. -GSP is now forward firing Fin Funnels, ending with Fin Funnel Barrier to close up enemies. -CSP is the old GSP from DWG2 and 3, but much faster and doesn't push enemies away. |
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| Joshelplex | Wed Jan 1, 2014 1:27 am Post #3034 |
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The Bawoo is back to being a C2 right? |
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| Master Omega | Wed Jan 1, 2014 1:32 am Post #3035 |
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Yes it is, according to BlackKite's unit list. |
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| gundamfan4000 | Wed Jan 1, 2014 1:46 am Post #3036 |
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thanks also joshplex the nu gundam firing the bazooka off its of back is because nu gundam did that in the chars counterattack film against an unsuspecting pilot. Edited by gundamfan4000, Wed Jan 1, 2014 1:55 am.
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| Nigoli | Wed Jan 1, 2014 5:44 am Post #3037 |
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I believe you only need to launch 3 times in it with Ral. |
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| LordKarasuman | Wed Jan 1, 2014 6:59 am Post #3038 |
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Is anyone else running into repeated brick walls when it comes to 8-star missions? It's like you can't get anywhere unless you... 1) Have MA mode or 2) You are a full-on Mobile Armor and/or 3) You have a Plan that has maxed Equipment and optimized stats And even then, the third doesn't seem to work with too much consistency on some of the worse suits. Can't find a magic bullet of skill selections that works for all pilots, either. Maybe there isn't supposed to be one, or maybe I'm missing something. But at this rate, the word "gap" is going to be replaced with the word "valley" when it comes to describing the discrepancy between suits. I mean, I'm finding the Baund Doc a million times easier to use than the Mushas/Knight. And that's all kinds of wrong. Please, someone throw me a bone. Give me a video of them being played properly at a high level, or something.
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| Wild Lion | Wed Jan 1, 2014 7:09 am Post #3039 |
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I still haven't beat Ultimate mode to unlock the star changes Once I do, I'll give it a shot with Arios and ReGZ |
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| wodash | Wed Jan 1, 2014 8:26 am Post #3040 |
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no vid yet for the last SEED druggie? the one with gundam hammer and bird mode? |
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| NT1 DX Divider | Wed Jan 1, 2014 8:33 am Post #3041 |
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Ugh, these Medals are killing me, especially when you don't know which one unlocks something, and which one does, Like one where we had to get 1500 total kills.......and relied on the grunts spawning around the final ace for it, so annoying, doesn't help that, some times, I can't tell what is needed to be done, lol.... Or the ones that requires more stars, when I can't change them yet, Oh well, guess we'll keep working on the Missions and using MS's 10 times per character..... |
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| Jaster | Wed Jan 1, 2014 9:44 am Post #3042 |
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Ya he 8 stars are total BS and feels even more of a lazy move for this game, im sticking to a Xtream legends like expansion of this game. 8 Stars are very sad, you need S rank parts to beat 8 star missions, yet you have to beat them to get those S rank parts, and even with full S rank, and the best equips you still lack greatly, also heads up i think mardia cruz (hope i got her name right) is the best MA pilot, her temptation skill adds 1.5X dmg to males for each lv it has, not to mention she gets some other great skills to. Honestly i dont do 8 stars unless its those grunt 3 min grindings for S rank parts since they are easier, or for most MA parts i do the last 10,000 mission where you gotta kill 3 MAs in 3 mins, which on hard 8 star is difficult lol, well except for certain chars, mardia (hope i got her name right), was able to beat them with quin at max and some good skills with a pilot lv of 37. If you want mo for best to use on 8 stars, use Quin mantha with capped stats with mardia if she can be used with the skills that focus on dealing more dmg. Also tip: Did you know since MAs cant block the Beginners fluex pass skill has no downside when used with them. |
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| LordKarasuman | Wed Jan 1, 2014 10:13 am Post #3043 |
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This is very true. Additionally, I find that Guts is more-or-less a requirement to avoid BS Powered Down status effects from a-holes like Raider Gundam, and MAs can't really get Powered Down either... So in addition to having BFP as an auto-include since it has no downside, you also don't need Guts and that frees up another slot. Combined with the fact that their Armor bar is much huger than their Plan would suggest (making Armor Full pickups OP in their hands), MAs really have it great in their debut game. |
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| Jaster | Wed Jan 1, 2014 12:15 pm Post #3044 |
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Indeed, at top settings for MA with top pilot with perfect skills equiped, on the true hardest difficulty 7 star on hard (8 star is BS, no harder AI just stupid OP buffs all enemys so i dont consider it a difficulty), MAs dominate even other MAs. Hopefully in the next game we will get more MAs (Including a playable devil gundam finaly >_>), MAs get more moves (Badly need), and maybe TRUE MA VS MA. Ill end my post with this question, Has anyone yet seen a Ally MA that the CP uses? Because so far in my 72+ hours save i havent even once, there always on enemy sides. Extra Info! When the devil gundam is used as a partner for combination burst, it comes up with full camera sizing like other MAs the player uses, and the fact is uses a SP attack (does that blue light flash with noise we all love and becomes invincible while using it), its possible there was testing of devil gundam in the games development were it was fully player controlled (still couldnt move) with fully functional attacks, this is highly likely as in the past 2 gundam musou games even though MAs couldnt be used, useing hacks to use them showed their moves were in fact made for fully functional player control. Id say with a hack you could very well use devil gundam.....but you wouldnt be able to move XD. |
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| Wild Lion | Wed Jan 1, 2014 12:28 pm Post #3045 |
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I'm really hoping for an expansion this time. It's going to be a long, long wait for the next full game just for the hope of seeing suits that should have already been in a long time ago |
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| DestinyX | Wed Jan 1, 2014 5:30 pm Post #3046 |
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Happy New year Everyone!! Im so excited for Gundam to come to the states if possible. They Added Impulse and Legend Gundam. Did you see any vids on those? the Impulse can change in-game!!! This is going to be the best one yet in my opinion. |
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| Master Omega | Wed Jan 1, 2014 8:08 pm Post #3047 |
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Legend Gundam Impulse Enjoy! |
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| LordKarasuman | Wed Jan 1, 2014 8:44 pm Post #3048 |
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So I'm starting to realize a few things. Equipment is either just as important as the hard stats on a Plan, or moreso. Could not get anywhere with anything when my Plans had less than maximum Level 3 Equipment. Now that I have Level 3 on Knight Gundam, I have a much, much better opinion of it, for instance. Protip: Knockdown with full Equipment and GSP2 basically makes you one of the safest non-MA suits in the game. In fact, Knockdown is probably going to be a requirement on a lot of suits just to not die. But this situation spells disaster for people who want to just jump into the fray with any old mech willy-nilly; Equipment requires Materials, and it is very, VERY easy to run out of them. Until someone finds a reliable way to farm Gold-level Material parts, the Tier List won't even be a quarter finished for months after release, because most of the suits are basically unplayable without them. tl;dr version: This is probably the grindiest customization system in the franchise and you are SCREWED if you don't use it properly. Edited by LordKarasuman, Wed Jan 1, 2014 8:45 pm.
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| Master Omega | Wed Jan 1, 2014 8:52 pm Post #3049 |
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Wow, that sounds f*cking awful. Leave it to Koei to make an even WORSE customization system than DWG3. |
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| tyrox9 | Wed Jan 1, 2014 9:27 pm Post #3050 |
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Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law. Bringing down the Hammer of Justice? lol, jk. its Raider Gundam you're thinking of. |
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