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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,209 Views)
Master Omega
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Nothing has been stated about the Western release yet, so we don't know for sure.
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Master Omega
Sun Jan 5, 2014 10:04 pm
I wouldn't go that far, but it's certainly not a great unit for its particular class.

Some Class 3s play pretty well, but I'd still say Calamity is a better option if only because it has more moves available to it.

If you guys need an analysis on the other CE units that haven't gotten attention recently, I can provide a quick summary.
If you don't mind , could you please answer these questions ?

Out of the mobile armors which is the best ?

Also out of the new mobile suits added which ones are the best ?

Which mobile suits were buffed and nerfed ?
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Master Omega
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1. Destroy and Quin Mantha are easily the two best MAs

2. Providence, Justice and Banshee are great overall MS, with Impulse and Aegis being really fun, but I'm not sure if they are at the same level tier wise.

3. Every MS that is playable in Official Mode got some sort of change, whether it be better performance or moveset changes. Some MS that stand out for getting positive changes are the RX-78, which is faster and stronger, especially with its Burst Mode; Nu, which got multiple move changes, and is easily one of the most monstrous MS in the game now; Strike Freedom, which got a moveset makeover like the Nu Gundam; Destiny, which plays very well with the faster speed and Charge Cancel; Master, whose C6 was changed to another unblockable grapple attack; Wing Zero, which is now faster and has a new C6; Epyon, with its great Charge Cancel attack which has massive range; Musha getting a new SP attack; Sinanju is now faster and stronger than before with better GSP performance.

I'm sure there are more buffs than that, but I don't have enough time to list them all. I'm sure people will find the ones I don't know as well.

As for nerfs, the Zeong sadly got one, which made Karasuman very sad lol.

No class 2s from the previous games got moveset upgrades to Class 1 (though apparently the Baund Doc is OP).

Names that stand out for nerfs are those like Heavyarms, not because it was made worse, but that the suit got no improvements from the previous game, so it doesn't really play well. That is really the issue I have, is that many units got no improvement at all.
Edited by Master Omega, Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:42 am.
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Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:24 pm
actually shows how awesome the units/series are when you can have a pre upgrade unit and still be as good/fun as a post upgrade unit.
^this

which is why GvG still bothered to add Shining AFTER they added God first, ditto with GX(which ironically is much more versatile than DX, also, Gundam Musou needs to have GX-Bits SP attack!)

a question though, what happens to solid weapon upgrades in this game, seeing how beam weapons have visible upgrades in terms of reach, what happens if you max out "weapons" like the Gundam Hammer/Heat Hawk/Sword Strike's weapon? i don't see any visible changes after Raider went into burst, unlike most beam weapon wielding MS
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For them, I do believe it's still a range and power increase, but it doesn't change visually. I might have to look into this.
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if you ever played a normal DW game, you might be familiar with an accessory (Wind Scroll, i believe) that increases your attacks range. So when you have it equipped, you'll notice a small little extension of wind like force to your swords and spears when you attack. I believe it's something similar to those lines.

i must say, im actually quite surprised that Aegis actually does do the self-destruction move. I mean, it's, obviously, not literally blowing itself up, but still, very nice.
Edited by tyrox9, Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:28 am.
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tyrox9
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:27 am
if you ever played a normal DW game, you might be familiar with an accessory (Wind Scroll, i believe) that increases your attacks range. So when you have it equipped, you'll notice a small little extension of wind like force to your swords and spears when you attack. I believe it's something similar to those lines.
Indeed, it is exactly like that for what I've seen, while fighting Forbidden.
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chase the girls
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someone told me out of the new ms justice is god like lol
is that true?
Edited by chase the girls, Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:33 am.
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chase the girls
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:33 am
someone told me out of the new ms justice is god like lol
is that true?
Yes. it's the Mobile Suit Athrun always deserved.
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tyrox9
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:27 am
if you ever played a normal DW game, you might be familiar with an accessory (Wind Scroll, i believe) that increases your attacks range. So when you have it equipped, you'll notice a small little extension of wind like force to your swords and spears when you attack. I believe it's something similar to those lines.

i must say, im actually quite surprised that Aegis actually does do the self-destruction move. I mean, it's, obviously, not literally blowing itself up, but still, very nice.
i see

well, it would've been much more(well, not so much) realistic AND unique if the respawn system is still in to some extent, so you literally blowing yourselves up, but will respawn if still possible to do so.
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wodash
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:42 am
tyrox9
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:27 am
if you ever played a normal DW game, you might be familiar with an accessory (Wind Scroll, i believe) that increases your attacks range. So when you have it equipped, you'll notice a small little extension of wind like force to your swords and spears when you attack. I believe it's something similar to those lines.

i must say, im actually quite surprised that Aegis actually does do the self-destruction move. I mean, it's, obviously, not literally blowing itself up, but still, very nice.
i see

well, it would've been much more(well, not so much) realistic AND unique if the respawn system is still in to some extent, so you literally blowing yourselves up, but will respawn if still possible to do so.
from the looks of it, its using it's Scylla beam cannon after MA grappling an opponent. only, rather than the beam going through, the beam creates a large explosion, IE; Nuke attacks or DX ASP, and the blast sends aegis flying back some.

but we all know what it is meant to be more or less.
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Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:36 am
chase the girls
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:33 am
someone told me out of the new ms justice is god like lol
is that true?
Yes. it's the Mobile Suit Athrun always deserved.
ha love it :XD
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Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:48 am
tyrox9
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:36 am
chase the girls
Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:33 am
someone told me out of the new ms justice is god like lol
is that true?
Yes. it's the Mobile Suit Athrun always deserved.
ha love it :XD
honestly, Aegis is too. Athrun went from having a rather bland, sub-par to average unit, to having two awesome units.

But what makes justice so great, well;

A) its Boost combo is like, great. and Athrun having SEED mode = awesome pairing.

B) and this is the best way I can compare and contrast it from IJ; Where as IJ used the fatumn Pack for attacks, JG uses the fatumn pack more as a weapon, an extension of the unit in itself, if that makes any sense at all. the end result is just a much more effective and awesome move set xD.
Edited by tyrox9, Mon Jan 6, 2014 3:01 am.
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Is the WZC and the four Gundam 00-movie suits the only DLC announced to date? Im not too familiar with the Mosou franchise aside from the gundam games, did they ever release more DLC than planned? Did they ever create patches to fix/alter the game (if its broken or glitched)?
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chase the girls
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hey everyone who do you think is the best ms in the game like just overall the best in everyway , and I don't count ma
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chase the girls
Mon Jan 6, 2014 4:48 am
hey everyone who do you think is the best ms in the game like just overall the best in everyway , and I don't count ma


veteran; Strike Freedom is godlike. a build that hits every note in strides, powerful shots, good melee, an almighty burst mode. easy to go with this.

new; justice or banshee for me. though theres a good few qualifiers that i haven't really given as much focus, so just a maybe.

Class 2; Duel Gundam puts a lot of class 1's to shame.
Edited by tyrox9, Mon Jan 6, 2014 5:39 am.
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chase the girls
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what about the destiny cause im realy excited for him I heard heard with his new move set his realy good , I mean maybe not the BEST but still realy good
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Mon Jan 6, 2014 5:49 am
what about the destiny cause im realy excited for him I heard heard with his new move set his realy good , I mean maybe not the BEST but still realy good
Destiny is really awesome. it was always really good, for it's great melee, but they really improved it more. they gave it awesome Mirage Colloid After Image attacks. Like knock he opponents up, dissapearing, then reappearing above them to send them crashing down. And then dat CSP... oh lord that CSP. He does Omni Slash. fitting since Shinn and zack share a VA.

edit; hell, heres a vid for ya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F8y1ghNd0g
Edited by tyrox9, Mon Jan 6, 2014 5:59 am.
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I'm still wondering how the GP01 or the GP02 handle in this game. I've always been a fan of the GP02 and the GP01's combo strings have grown on me. Anybody messed around with them extensively?
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huh... actually i havent really seen anything of those myself. I cant iamgine GP-01 got too much better. but id bet GP-02 still fun as hell xD.
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My personal favorite at the moment is the Baund Doc, though admittedly the pool of Suits I have at Level 3 Equipment is small and the Baund Doc is a rather technical suit.

The absolute best machine for beginners is probably the Destroy Gundam, though. Good god, that thing is so beastly and easy to use.
Edited by LordKarasuman, Mon Jan 6, 2014 6:24 am.
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@Tyrox9
Hmm, I hope it improved a little because its GSP and ASP suck in GM3. The GP01 that is.
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Im sure it's improved in that the extra speed and such the game has naturally will imply. and i imagine it may have a new attack. And I have nothing against the good ol GP-01. it just that... its a really vanilla gundam, and doesn't have a whole lot to go for it. really has to rely on the Full Verniers to be special.

the likes of Gudam and G-MKII at least had a large supply of weaponry to make them decent/fun.

thats why i'd like to see some GP-03 for Kou. it could do a bit more, like with the dual bazookas, and have Dendro support and such.
Edited by tyrox9, Mon Jan 6, 2014 6:39 am.
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hes perfect :heart:
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Sat Jan 4, 2014 5:39 am
I disagree. I actually enjoyed the randomness factor of the previous games. What annoys me the most about this though is that they can't seem to give us a middle ground. Why can't they simply just give us an option to turn random suits for pilots on and off? It surely can't be that difficult. Instead they just take it out completely. :nope:
Well put, no reason they can't after all DW8 has where you can toggle NPC costumes and Hypothetical missions on and off before you select the stage...
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