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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,201 Views)
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Sorry, I forgot my manners...
Hello everyone ^^

Thanks a lot BlackKite !
Hum yes I played Gundam Musou 3 (and quite a lot :p). I think I'll bear with the framerate. I've no choice anyway, I want the game so badly x)

"Anyway as for the multiplayer, it's co-op up to 2 players, online and offline. PS3's offline co-op is splitscreen. Hope this info helps "

I already know that, thanks to your info post but if you tell me this, then I come to the conclusion that there is no need to say more.

Thanks again, this was very helpful ! ^_^
^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
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BlackKite
Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:11 pm
Heck even the PS4 version of DW8XL didn't even have full 60 FPS as they focused more on showing faraway people and giving people better movement & AI, and a framerate drop from 60 FPS is going to be very noticeable... :/

Now I'm scared... I thought it's gonna be better, knowing that the PS4 has higher spec than the PS3...

BlackKite
Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:15 pm
Hello there :) For the PS3 version, yeah there are framerate drops, and they occur very often. But I think finding whether it's disturbing or not might depend on how long you've played Warriors series.

If this is your first game or you only started playing Warriors games released from 2011 onwards, then you can probably expect around the same quality. But if you've been playing many past Warriors games since long ago (including 2010's GW3), the framerate drop is going to be disturbingly noticeable.

I've been playing DWG3 before playing SGM on PS3, and I can say the framerate drop is pretty noticeable.
The worst thing (maybe it's only me ?) is each attack that touch the ennemies, I feel it's slowing down.
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:32 am
So I've been playing as around with the Akatsuki when I came across something rather interesting. Apparently, its moveset changes depending on if your Melee > Shot or vice versa. I personally prefer the shot based one over the Melee after trying both; still that's a nice touch on a MS I would not have looked twice at.
Wow. That's amazing, if true. If that's real, there's no way Koei would limit that mechanic to just one suit. Are there any others affected like that?
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I am finding that Good Luck is a reliable, but weaker substitute for Hard Strike, and for Snipe as well. Whoever said that it upped crit rate was not only right on the money, but it's actually not bad on its own either. I think it was sion13 who mentioned it?

When it comes to 8-Star missions, I am finding that Lv3 Equipment helps, but for many suits, even something like Lv1 Equipment + Good Luck seems to work so long as you understand what a suit's BnBs are. So if you want to be able to use something in 8-Star and are trying to get the suit to a function state, perhaps it's not as much of a doomsday scenario as I first described.
Edited by LordKarasuman, Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:16 am.
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Heat
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:32 am
So I've been playing as around with the Akatsuki when I came across something rather interesting. Apparently, its moveset changes depending on if your Melee > Shot or vice versa. I personally prefer the shot based one over the Melee after trying both; still that's a nice touch on a MS I would not have looked twice at.
Wow. That's amazing, if true. If that's real, there's no way Koei would limit that mechanic to just one suit. Are there any others affected like that?
Are you sure that's not just the different packs it has based on being on ground missions or space missions?
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NDestiny
Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:10 pm
BlackKite
Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:11 pm
Heck even the PS4 version of DW8XL didn't even have full 60 FPS as they focused more on showing faraway people and giving people better movement & AI, and a framerate drop from 60 FPS is going to be very noticeable... :/

Now I'm scared... I thought it's gonna be better, knowing that the PS4 has higher spec than the PS3...
Now that I think about it again, I think they still applied the same framerate management from when they first announced DW8: Processing fixed at 60 FPS but Drawing to fluctuate around 60-45 FPS. So maybe that's why the framerate often drops to 45 FPS as well in the PS4 version... :mellow:



On Akatsuki: Yeah so far that I know is that the pack changes depending on the map. On ground maps it uses the Oowashi pack which is more melee-heavy, and in space maps it has Shiranui instead which is more ranged-based.



Anyway I think I just realized another easter egg here..??

Searching for Miss Blonde: Mission just at the left of the last, where you're helping Milliardo
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Milliardo: Thanks for the help.
Riddhe: Are you defending this base alone?
Milliardo: A subordinate that I can trust is currently on another mission. If she were here perhaps I wouldn't have been struggling this far..

Uh.... she?? I wonder if he's referring to Noin?? :ph43r:
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:51 am
NDestiny
Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:10 pm
BlackKite
Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:11 pm
Heck even the PS4 version of DW8XL didn't even have full 60 FPS as they focused more on showing faraway people and giving people better movement & AI, and a framerate drop from 60 FPS is going to be very noticeable... :/

Now I'm scared... I thought it's gonna be better, knowing that the PS4 has higher spec than the PS3...
Now that I think about it again, I think they still applied the same framerate management from when they first announced DW8: Processing fixed at 60 FPS but Drawing to fluctuate around 60-45 FPS. So maybe that's why the framerate often drops to 45 FPS as well in the PS4 version... :mellow:



On Akatsuki: Yeah so far that I know is that the pack changes depending on the map. On ground maps it uses the Oowashi pack which is more melee-heavy, and in space maps it has Shiranui instead which is more ranged-based.



Anyway I think I just realized another easter egg here..??

Searching for Miss Blonde: Mission just at the left of the last, where you're helping Milliardo
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Milliardo: Thanks for the help.
Riddhe: Are you defending this base alone?
Milliardo: A subordinate that I can trust is currently on another mission. If she were here perhaps I wouldn't have been struggling this far..

Uh.... she?? I wonder if he's referring to Noin?? :ph43r:
Seems possible to me. Maybe hinting at more Wing stuff coming down the line(be it a sequel or dlc)?
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Woo, more translations!

Oh god, Noin. Please make her playable in a future installment, KT.
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:51 am
On Akatsuki: Yeah so far that I know is that the pack changes depending on the map. On ground maps it uses the Oowashi pack which is more melee-heavy, and in space maps it has Shiranui instead which is more ranged-based.
Yep this is what I've found as well. Even tried a melee heavy pilot in space and still got the Shiranui pack.

I think it is just based on whether you're in space or somewhere with a solid floor (haven't tested out the sky levels though)

Yay for Noin referrence :dance:
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:42 am
Woo, more translations!

Oh god, Noin. Please make her playable in a future installment, KT.
Noin is about the only non main character from Wing who deserves to be in these games. with a Class 2 Taurus (dont forsake her to millardo leftovers.). She can fight on the same level in a sub ace mook suit as the main guys can in a gundam.
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:51 am

Milliardo: A subordinate that I can trust is currently on another mission. If she were here perhaps I wouldn't have been struggling this far..

Uh.... she?? I wonder if he's referring to Noin?? :ph43r:
Wow what a find BK Thank you. Wonder what other easter egg is in the game?
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:51 am
Searching for Miss Blonde: Mission just at the left of the last, where you're helping Milliardo
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Milliardo: Thanks for the help.
Riddhe: Are you defending this base alone?
Milliardo: A subordinate that I can trust is currently on another mission. If she were here perhaps I wouldn't have been struggling this far..

Uh.... she?? I wonder if he's referring to Noin?? :ph43r:
guess that means we will get a wing story mode when next game.

also how is the delta plus from what Ive seen its basically looks like a combination of the zeta and Hyaku Shiki
Edited by gundamfan4000, Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:16 am.
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Heads up, the next DLC batch of missions are now available at PSN Store: Battle of Gryps 2 from Scirocco's POV, Fall of Axis from Char's POV, and the allegedly 10k shotdown sky stage.

Going to get the last one to see if it'll be really helpful in obtaining those 10k shotdown cards, lol
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gundamfan4000
Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:42 pm
BlackKite
Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:51 am
Searching for Miss Blonde: Mission just at the left of the last, where you're helping Milliardo
Posted Image
Milliardo: Thanks for the help.
Riddhe: Are you defending this base alone?
Milliardo: A subordinate that I can trust is currently on another mission. If she were here perhaps I wouldn't have been struggling this far..

Uh.... she?? I wonder if he's referring to Noin?? :ph43r:
guess that means we will get a wing story mode when next game.

also how is the delta plus from what Ive seen its basically looks like a combination of the zeta and Hyaku Shiki
Thats... a mighty big assumption based off such a small reference.

and i imagine D+ is a pretty damn fine unit :) .
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Medals:
Gold: Palace Athene Clear
Silver: Hambrabi Clear
Bronze: The O Clear

It seems to use Voice dialogue from the TV Series ending interestingly enough. Don't let the Salamis ship get destroyed, or it's a Game Over. Very good if you had missed the cutscene with the Radish exploding.

Medals:
Gold: 2000 Shotdown Clear
Silver: 1500 Shotdown Clear
Bronze: 1000 Shotdown Clear

Not too much to say about the CCA Mission. Just another one of those Missions where you need to rack up kills for the Gold Medal. There's a piece of dialogue where Char talks about Bright.

Medals:
Gold: 10000 Shotdown Clear
Silver: 6500 Shotdown Clear
Bronze: 3500 Shotdown Clear

If you still haven't completed the Card Collection. This Mission is definitely a good one to play. Even if you are droning out bored of this game like I am. It's simply an endless mission, until the 10,000 Shotdown happens. And at the end you'll fight a Random Ace. I had a Musha Gundam at the end. It's just like 3's 10k Shotdown Download Mission. It's also set in the Sky Stage from Gundam Unicorn.

The PS3 Version lag is at an all time high in this Mission and doesn't display graphics for certain SP attacks in Field A.
Edited by Nigoli, Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:13 am.
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Oh wow, the 10k mission turns out to be much more tedious than I thought ;o.o

Bronze: Over 3500 shotdowns, Silver > 6000, Gold > 10000
Victory conditions: Reach 10000 shotdowns, Sub-mission time up
Defeat conditions: Own unit or A Field falls down

Stage flow:
You're given 15 minutes of sub-mission time to reach 10k shotdowns. The time can be extended if you shoot down warships, MAs and aces.

First you're alone with the A Field being surrounded by many enemy fields, so you'll have to disable all of them. There are also 3 fields with warships, but they're locked at first. Soon after there will be 3 named grunts that will appear and head to each warships. If they do reach them the warships will retreat, but if you beat the named grunts you'll be able to access the warship fields.

Once all fields are disabled, turbulence will start to blow away and some fields will begin to appear there, similar to Unicorn's Official stage 5. After you clear those fields... it's where the tediousness begins.

An ally ace will appear on the A Field, but soon after 3 new fields will appear in your field's surroundings. And you cannot enter these fields. And they will spawn endless waves of named grunts that will all rush to your only field. Oh and there will be 2 MAs as well. They will keep respawning as well after some time have passed, but they will keep the damaged parts, which means literally it should be easy to keep the sub-mission time.
And there will be also 2 turbulence fields in bottom, each with an ace. The fields would only disappear once you beat the ace, but due to the endless swarms of named grunts, both your A Field and ally ace guarding it will fall into trouble.

Eventually if you're able to score 10k shotdowns within the sub-mission time, everyone else will retreat and the enemy boss appears. Oh and the shotdown count does go to 5 digits this time around

It took me almost an hour doing this on PSV. I wonder if it could be quicker in PS3 since there's alot more enemies there..
Edited by BlackKite, Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:09 am.
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Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:06 am
I wonder if it could be quicker in PS3 since there's alot more enemies there..
If you thought the lag was bad on the PS3 Version...

Well, it's at an all time high for this Mission. In Field A near the end of the Mission, my 00 Raiser's Aerial SP wouldn't even display the beam for the Raiser Sword anymore. I also completely forgot to record my time because of this. :kurokan:
Edited by Nigoli, Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:14 am.
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Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:35 am
Thats... a mighty big assumption based off such a small reference.

and i imagine D+ is a pretty damn fine unit :) .
a guy can dream right :D
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That 10k mission sounds crazy.

Any real news yet on when they plan to bring this overseas?
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I'm also wondering the same thing, Kuroda. I consider myself a very patient person, but I'm literally banging my head against a wall waiting for news on the localization.


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If I remember correctly one of Koei's producers, Koinuma was it? Said on twitter that there are plans for a english release for Shin Gundam Musou.
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Yeah we already knew that. But I'm looking for definite confirmation.
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Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:10 pm
Yeah we already knew that. But I'm looking for definite confirmation.
wait for e3 that's probably when they are gonna announce it
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I don't think they'll make any official announcements on this yet until they're through with most of their Q1 releases (Jan~Mar 14). I'd start expecting TK Europe to start spilling the beans from around March or April.
DW8XL & its Complete Edition are a different story though because it's going to be their major spotlight for Q2
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So anybody else itching for some crossbone gameplay? I seriously can't wait to see it in action.
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