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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,320 Views)
Nigoli
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I gave up on achieving beyond 50% of DW Gundam 2's trophies. It was far more daunting and much more boring than the other games in the series despite the exhaustive list of pilots, suits, and missions. The story missions for each character were bland and meaningless.
Thankfully the Japanese version of 2 did not have Trophies. But for the Japanese Region's 360 version, it had all of the Achievements the PS3 localized version's Trophies had with the exception of making every character a Newtype. T_T
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I, for one, found Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 far better than the previous installations of the game despite the recycled maps (which you grow tired of rather quickly, if I am honest), the cheesy story mode and other flaws.

That being said, I am totally stoked for this new DW Gundam game! I REALLY hope they don't mess up and actually keep all the previous suits in DW Gundam 3, including the DLC ones (read as: DON'T TAKE AWAY MY ARIOS!). I like the new additions like the Impulse, the Strike and the Aegis but that could be because I am somewhat biased towards the SEED series =D.
I agree with you 100% about 3. I really think it's going to be hard to top still, especially if the new game is more of a "compilation" release.

I'm kind of tired of seeing the same cutscenes from Original and Zeta, etc from the Official Mode / History Missions. I feel as if they should have just done away with them if they were in the previous games. That's why I liked the History Missions type of deal, even though most of the series that had them were crap (G, etc). They should just make it more condensed if previous games had them / not have them at all. It's a waste for space in terms of data usage on the Disc. But I suppose it isn't a problem anymore if there's no 360 version. But I'm sure a SGM International will come if the 360 is more in demand for localization.

I think most people feel like that concerning SEED. I've been on the fence about for a while now, and it's been around 9 years since I've watched them. It makes you wonder what they'll do with this when SGM2 comes 2-3 years later. 00 10th Anniversary / maybe a new series additions? But at least Unicorn is there to an extent if you aren't enjoying the SEED / SEED Destiny Official Modes, or just playing with the BGM and SE off skipping the cutscenes if you dislike SEED and have to do it for completion's sake.

I wish we could see more on Ultimate Mode myself.
Edited by Nigoli, Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:48 am.
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I'm still not clear on what Ultimate Mode is supposed to be, is it like Original Mode from the other games?
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:36 am
I found GM1 to have the best story. Even if it's the same every time, it's just as entertaining every time and had the best character interactions of any crossover I've played to date, including SRW.

I hope they brought back whoever wrote that story for this game.


I would probably agree with you on that. Gameplay-wise though, DW Gundam 3 was far superior and it's not just the number of suits really; it was the overall feel of the game.

Nigoli
Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:39 am
I agree with you 100% about 3. I really think it's going to be hard to top still, especially if the new game is more of a "compilation" release.

I'm kind of tired of seeing the same cutscenes from Original and Zeta, etc from the Official Mode / History Missions. I feel as if they should have just done away with them if they were in the previous games. That's why I liked the History Missions type of deal, even though most of the series that had them were crap (G, etc). They should just make it more condensed if previous games had them / not have them at all. It's a waste for space in terms of data usage on the Disc. But I suppose it isn't a problem anymore if there's no 360 version. But I'm sure a SGM International will come if the 360 is more in demand for localization.

I think most people feel like that concerning SEED. I've been on the fence about for a while now, and it's been around 9 years since I've watched them. It makes you wonder what they'll do with this when SGM2 comes 2-3 years later. 00 10th Anniversary / maybe a new series additions? But at least Unicorn is there to an extent if you aren't enjoying the SEED / SEED Destiny Official Modes, or just playing with the BGM and SE off skipping the cutscenes if you dislike SEED and have to do it for completion's sake.

I wish we could see more on Ultimate Mode myself.


I don't know if I would rather see them come up with a new Shin Gundam Musou or just make a new Dynasty Warriors Gundam title that isn't a "greatest hits" kind of deal. I hope the people of Namco Bandai and Koei realize that more often than not, compilation series aren't really what reels in customers. You could perhaps entice hardcore fans by it (and by all means, I am a hardcore fan, so I would unthinkably buy it provided the alterations are significant on my scale) but it won't necessarily appeal to the general populace if repeated time and again. You need to keep things fresh if you really want to keep your revenue stream =).
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Ah but rehashes and compilations are what have been making Koei money since 2001 :XD

Gundam Musou is one series where I actually don't mind if the sequels are just a bunch of new characters, because the gameplay and combat is much more solid and fun than most of the other Musou franchises. They've got a sturdy base to build off of already. I think the dash combos and emergency cancels really beef up the combat past Koei's typical outing.

It's definitely no EXVS, don't get me wrong, but it's better than most Gundam games.
Edited by Wild Lion, Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:36 am.
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@Black Lion; Ultimate mode equals Mission Mode from GW2.

I actually did get 100% trophies for GW2. and I actually played the number 1 guy on the leaderboards, and beat him, to get the last online trophy.
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w00t someone finally uploaded the Shin GW TGS event video! in Niconico.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21921029
For those who don't have Niconico account can watch here http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm21921029
Dunno how long it'll last so grab it while it's still there :ph43r:

Some things I newly noticed:
Susanowo & Graham will indeed be included in-game this time around obviously (to please Nakamura-san, lol)
Seems like Bright Noa will now be fully voiced by his UC seiyuu Narita Ken-san even for his MSG personage too
On Strike's gameplay, when the thruster gauge reaches critical level you'll hear some warning tones.

And to those who can't watch the video, here are some image caps inside the spoiler box below ^_^
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yay. finally got to see it.

thnx for the post up

Edit;

Btw. on the whole subject of what Strike's combo situation is, If it is just like a Class 2 set up because thats all ti had in the demo, it's worth pointing out that in a demo video of the Nu gundam's gameplay, it only had actions up to C4 as well. So that was likely them jsut not showing its whole movelist in the demo, and will likely be a Class 1.
Edited by tyrox9, Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:32 pm.
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I think Strike Gundam is pretty much a Class 1 suit, maybe even on its own, since basically it will have 4 different S-strings already depending on the pack equipped. Plus if you notice Sword Strike's S-string at around 22:15, I'd say that's 6 attacks alright.

Since Impulse Gundam is also confirmed, most likely it'll have the same pack-changing mechanism as Strike, though I wonder if they'll allow us to have Destiny Impulse as its Burst mode or not :hehe:
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Yeah. between Seed/Destiny, only Class 2's i see is Cgue(maybe), Guaiz, lagowe, mmmmaaaaaybe the custom ZAKUs if included, Gouf Ignited. stuff liek that

Inclusion of Destiny Impulse would be dooope. that be an epic surprise.

what if Strike Rouge has like IWSP or Phoenix for it's Burst Mode. Or maybe IWSP is it's normal mode and it turns into Phoenix.
Edited by tyrox9, Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:15 pm.
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I wonder. Will different packs affect the Strike and Impulses Musou?
Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:28 pm.
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:27 pm
I wonder. Will different packs affect the Strike and Impulses Musou?
i dont think so. Cause from the looks of it, whenever Strike SP'd, it would briefly turn into perfect Strike. i think if a unit has a special mode/form for for a Burst Mode, their SPs will be something that doesn't contradict that form. So it remains if you SP in Burst Mode
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:33 pm
w00t someone finally uploaded the Shin GW TGS event video! in Niconico.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21921029
For those who don't have Niconico account can watch here http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm21921029
Dunno how long it'll last so grab it while it's still there :ph43r:

Some things I newly noticed:
Susanowo & Graham will indeed be included in-game this time around obviously (to please Nakamura-san, lol)
Seems like Bright Noa will now be fully voiced by his UC seiyuu Narita Ken-san even for his MSG personage too
On Strike's gameplay, when the thruster gauge reaches critical level you'll hear some warning tones.

And to those who can't watch the video, here are some image caps inside the spoiler box below ^_^
Spoiler: click to toggle
Freedom is in so I guess that mans Justice as well.

Wasn't expecting Super Gundam, so that is cool too.

Really hoping they start showing some Baddies soon.
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If we dont get the Le Crueset Team or the Druggies, there will be blood in the streets.
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Unlocking pilots for GW3 was actually very easy. Not sure why some people had trouble with it.

tyrox9
Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:25 am
@Black Lion; Ultimate mode equals Mission Mode from GW2.

I actually did get 100% trophies for GW2. and I actually played the number 1 guy on the leaderboards, and beat him, to get the last online trophy.


I got 100% as well. It wasn't hard, just took a while.

Joshelplex
Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 pm
If we dont get the Le Crueset Team or the Druggies, there will be blood in the streets.


It would be the worst story mode ever if they didn't include them.

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Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:33 pm
1st MSG finally starting from Episode 1 where it stands up
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would've been hilariously :facepalm: -ing if they also included the SEED version of this AND the AGE version
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Hmmmm......Are the Gundam Wing pilots and mobile suits returning from 3 sorry don't know if this is already been clarified yet or not.
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As this seems to be a compilation or something it's a decent bet to say every major suit, and possibly DLC suit, should be in this game.
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@ BlackKite thanks for the update!!! Guess my hopes for 00 swords switching dropped from 50 to 10 percent still keeping hope alive, but man does Shinn or should i say true dynasty warriors gundam look more alive then ever!!! Glad to see G, and zz are still in ...not surprising sing they dide start off in the beginning! And i love how thew are using more of the gundams weapons original audio like unicorns beam gatling! MKII is definitely gonna feel like an upgrade aswell!!! And they have edited the grandaddy suits moveset once again the javelin throw looks sick!!!
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Oh yeah, it looks great. and ime xcited for Nu's new moveset. it looks not faily anymore.
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that Freedom cut scene looks like when he first intervenes in Destiny wonder if this helps Saviour's chances
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I think it totally does.
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So Perfect Strike's air SP is the same as Destiny's air SP, while his ground SP is the generic tackle while holding a sword, not unlike Sinanju's, compared to what we got with Nu Gundam, that's kinda underwhelming...

too bad the VA's didn't demonstrate more of Perfect Strike's normal&charge moves, but Launcher's S string looks way better than GM3's Heavyarms, that's for sure

the delayed new explosion/enemy shot down effect are cool, especially with the overdrive SP's that does 360* coverage like the Rolling TBR SP attack
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It would be grand if we did get the Savior as it's one of my favorite mecha's from Destiny. Real shame it didn't see more screen time.

Since we have the Impulse and Freedom I'm betting it means we'll be getting the Destroy for Stella for the Battle of Berlin than Shinn and Kira's duel which should really showcase the Impulse's versatility of changing packs on the fly to overcome a stronger mecha.
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It would be grand if we did get the Savior as it's one of my favorite mecha's from Destiny. Real shame it didn't see more screen time.

Since we have the Impulse and Freedom I'm betting it means we'll be getting the Destroy for Stella for the Battle of Berlin than Shinn and Kira's duel which should really showcase the Impulse's versatility of changing packs on the fly to overcome a stronger mecha.
Except how would this shocase anything for Impulse when any suit (that switches packs) can do the same thing on the fly in this game? For Kira they will probably just skip that fight for Kira and only have it for Shin's side of the story, since Kira has to lose, makes since.
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Because the Impulse has cooler packs. Destiny Impulse is far cooler than the Perfect Strike or the IWPS which look tacky and unfabulous.

SEED and Destiny Official Modes most likely will be seperated by character story but an overreaching story that has you switch characters as needed. So yes, those stages would be Shinn ones as Kira being playable for them... Doesn't make much sense. The Final stage would have Kira or Athrun playable, I believe.
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