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| Re4_Wesker | Fri Oct 4, 2013 6:54 am Post #576 |
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Antagonist?
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Arguably this is why its actually done better with Kio. Fighting like that will cause more losses on your side and in the end while you will save people, you simply cannot save everyone. This is the message that AGE indirectly made in the last few episode even if it wasn't the message they wanted to put across. The thing with Flit is that they needed to focus on him more. Having a change of heart would have been completely understandable if it wasn't like a flip of a switch sort of scene.
Pretty much. I could have lived with Andrew surviving but Mu and Kira? that was way too much to put up with.
AGE-3 killed the momentum that the series was making. Even then I could have put up with it if it wasn't for episodes 47-49 being just absolutely terrible. There are so many poor plot choices in those last three episodes.
Memory of Eden took the strong points of AGE and stuck with them. It also managed to strengthen a lot of this stuff. It only fell short on the fact that it could have made some pretty big changes and retcons that would have ultimately made the ending of the series more bearable. Spoiler: click to toggle Still, If AGE were to be represented in this game, I would want to see its adds be Asemu and Zeheart, specifically representing the Memory of Eden special. |
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| Sum Gai | Fri Oct 4, 2013 6:57 am Post #577 |
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Han's Unifier
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W has been getting more attention recently admittingly. One of the main characters Gundams in the upcoming Gunpla anime is a modified Wing Gundam. Looks like they're also tying to tie in the TV series directly with Endless Waltz in terms of suit designs. The tv version of the Wing Zero is now apparantly the 'Proto Zero'. |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:06 am Post #578 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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The issue is that message wasn't a part of the greater picture of the show. It made Kio look even dumber than he was and even more unlikable. Kio didn't even change his mind in the end and assumed he was still right. This is even after he had literally seen in the final battles that his ideal was illogical and it had gotten good people killed while he didn't end up saving any of the named characters that he wanted to save. - Or they're trying to tie Wing to its updated version in the revisited Manga, which may tie into FT moreso, where it got quite a few new toys. Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:10 am.
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| Cydge | Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:38 am Post #579 |
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Wanderer
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Why almost all the complaints about Gundam are about ZZ and AU? I discovered Gundam with Wing (the first Gundam series to come in France) and loved it. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:47 am Post #580 |
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I for one certainly won't miss AGE if it's not included, the show is garbage with some of the least interesting MS Designs and most of the good ones are tied to some absolutely terrible characters Man we are really getting drip fed these scan's aren't we XD Sweet to see Legend though always didn't like it's exclusion even if I'm not a huge fan of Rey. Can't wait to see how it plays |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:52 am Post #581 |
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It's not just ZZ and AGE. Destiny gets a lot of trouble as well because of Kira ruining the show by throwing out all his good traits from SEED and enhancing his bad traits while portraying him as a God that's never wring and never loses unless he let's himself lose. There are still many that say Kira didn't lose to Shinn after Berlin because "He didn't want to kill Shinn so he held back even when the Archangel was almost sunk". The entire fight Kira, despite having the far more powerful Gundam, was pressed by Shinn who actually studied for battle and used the Impulse's ability to change body parts/packs as well as recharge during the middle of battle to its fullest. And when Kira wakes up guess what his only injury is after having Shinn stab through the Freedom's cockpit? I'll tell you. A bandage on his check and soreness. Hence why he's called Kira "Jesus" Yamato as he cannot die no matter how many "death" scenario's he's tossed in, never suffers any real injuries, BS explanations(or none at all) for how he evades death so many times, Unlimited Beam Spam, "Ultimate" Coordinator, biggest hypocrite in the series, he never loses as he instead let's people beat him even when it's dumb, everything always goes his way, and he's always right about everything even when he's wrong. Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:55 am.
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| All i do is Train | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:05 am Post #582 |
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Elite Soldier
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^How do you keep turning this into one of your little "Kira rant sessions" with every opportunity that presents itself? All your doing is showing your true intentions. So can we get back to discussing the "game", which is what this thread is about... Also. do we get these scans weekly or bi-weekly? |
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| Wild Lion | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:06 am Post #583 |
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Legend
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Yeah Seed pulls that kinda crap, while Wing gets all the hate for Heero having "plot armor" First of all, before Heero self destructed his suit, he was already established as being a super soldier who was specifically trained to withstand bodily injury better than any normal person, as shown when he crashed into the water in the first episode and when he rolled down that cliff and reset his own broken leg in the second. So his survival of the explosion does NOT just come out of nowhere. Secondly, he was standing outside the cockpit when it blew up, not trapped inside it like Kira. He was at the halfway point of the suit, which is about 20-25 feet off the ground, or a second story window. That's really not such a bad fall, I've had a cousin survive worse. Heero was blown clear from the wreckage. Third, he actually sustained real injuries from the explosion. He was lying unconscious in a pool of his own blood and was thought to be dead. He was in a coma for over a month, while Kira comes back from his underwater nuclear coffin with a bandaid. / rant I really want to see Aegis soon, that's the one Seed suit I'm looking most forward to. It really is a unique and interesting design and I think it's much cooler than the suits Athrun got afterward. Edited by Wild Lion, Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:07 am.
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| SazukeEX | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:22 am Post #584 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Indeed. Wing at least made their situations plausible and when Heero did crazy things that nearly get him killed he paid for it in blood and lots of pain. Wing also made it a point that the pilots are also not Gods and Gundam isn't end all be all. Such as how mid season Wing was completely and utterly obsolete and nearly got Heero killed fighting the newly rolled out mobile dolls. While Kira bounced back from injuries in a matter of days or in some cases only a few hours was needed with him never being shown actually hurt that bad on his body. Except his cheek. As it needed to be bandaged. Oh, and he's a bit sore from that explosion to the face. Destiny even dragged Athrun down this route as well. Such as when Shinn stabbed his Gouf Ignite and he fell into the ocean. What was his injury? Bandage on cheek and soreness. The girl with him? Not a scratch on her. Both were back in action extremely quickly because... Coordinator logic. - Didn't we already see the Aegis? What I'm interested in seeing is the Savior as quite a few games don't include it. Real shame as it's a pretty awesome mecha that should have been used more in the show. Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:25 am.
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| BlackKite | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:23 am Post #585 |
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長宗我部菜々
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So far we've been getting scans bi-weekly, so I'd like to think that's our interval here. ![]() Anyway yeah, when a discussion that's not really related to the games goes deeper, it'd be better to move that discussion to the General Gundam forum. Thank you |
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| Ma Su | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:26 am Post #586 |
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Seeker of knowledge and understanding.
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Anyone else hoping to see Yonem Kirks and his Zaku I Sniper? What do you guys think of his chances hm? |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:33 am Post #587 |
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His chances aren't bad since Unicorn seems to be getting an official mode but I wouldn't hold my breath or anything. Though the Zaku 1 Sniper seems a bit unmatched for a series like thi as it's meant for long range single fire shots not... Warriors stuff. Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:34 am.
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| Ma Su | Fri Oct 4, 2013 9:37 am Post #588 |
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Seeker of knowledge and understanding.
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If they can make the Zaku Tank into a grunt more annoying than a ****ing Big Zam (god I love Big Zam), then I think they could probably work some magic with the Zaku I Sniper. I also wonder how the Big Zam will play? I CAN'T WAIT!!! |
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| BlackKite | Fri Oct 4, 2013 11:22 am Post #589 |
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長宗我部菜々
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Finally A Full Scan ![]() ![]() Turns out that the right page is for introducing Official Mode. But there are some more confirmations here that no leakers bothered to post. It seems like most Official stories should now start from the very first episodes. 1st MSG does indeed start from the 1st episode as already informed in PV 1st SEED's story also starts from Heliopolis and will go all the way to Jachin Due. I wonder if they're really going to incorporate some anime shots this time around.. Unicorn's story is also confirmed to start from the 1st episode The Day of Unicorn, where Banagher first activates Unicorn and fights Kshatriya If all series do start from the beginning, I wonder if Z's story could also start from AEUG stealing the Gundam Mk-IIs. And CCA, could we finally start the series with Re-GZ?? And for SEED Destiny, if the story starts from Armory One, then Gaia, Chaos & Abyss are pretty much going to be very essential adds Edited by BlackKite, Fri Oct 4, 2013 11:34 am.
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| wodash | Fri Oct 4, 2013 12:50 pm Post #590 |
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undefeated in all directions
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in short,it's the Rick Dom to Sandrock's Dom... would've been more interested in the zero system part, but they rarely ever got it right when depicting it on action games, i dunno about EXVS's version but i heard it was pretty good there all in all, i actually, (and rarely), prefer the EW version of sandrock over the machinegun totting one, especially if the TV sandrock does not have its gameplay centered in summoning the maganac troops as a part of its charge attack and SP i'm all for the bigger Shotels, badass cape, and much more brutal melee attacks rather than doing more pew-pew-pew, in a musou game(it would be different for like, EXVS or the battle series where having projectiles will be very useful)
i guess this means we will have the identical gundam rises from the bed scene, cool ![]() but seriously, if all of the official modes starts form the first episode, then yeah, probably will be the first time in GM where you don't always pilot a class 1 MS for a story mode, but i guess they will find a loophole here and just have the class1-less episodes to be story only and then skip to the part where the characters get their gundams before being actually playable also, i wonder will we get to pick sides/characters this time around? or at least have DW7 style character shifts where we control a different character at certain points.... Edited by wodash, Fri Oct 4, 2013 1:00 pm.
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| BlackKite | Fri Oct 4, 2013 1:49 pm Post #591 |
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Just noticed this is mentioned in the scan, and it's more towards the latter, more akin to DW7 or FotNS2. For the most part you will be using the main character, however at some points in the stories you'll be able to use certain other characters and MS too. I'm gonna lol though if in SEED Destiny's story there would be the main character change from Shinn to Kira... >_> |
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| Joshelplex | Fri Oct 4, 2013 1:56 pm Post #592 |
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The Nightmare of Winnipeg
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I bet for Destiny they go Shinn -> Kira -> Ahtrun. |
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| tyrox9 | Fri Oct 4, 2013 3:59 pm Post #593 |
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SUPER!~ General
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Spoiler: click to toggle but on Topic, awesome. Nice Full scan. With a little hope maybe the kinda change up the bi-weekly scan and some times do them consecutive weeks. |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Oct 4, 2013 4:04 pm Post #594 |
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What would be pretty trolly on Koei's part is if at the battle of Orb you're Shinn than Kira than Lunamaria and no matter what you do you cannot shoot that rocketing transport down while everyone gasps and watches you without helping. Poor Lunamaria doesn't have many places to shine. After Armory One I can see her switching around with Shinn against the Extendeds, when she gets the Impulse and they must fight multiple Drestroy's with Shinn and Rey, and she was very important on the moon assault to take out Logos. Not getting much else for her as she usually played a support role to Shinn. |
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| tyrox9 | Fri Oct 4, 2013 4:25 pm Post #595 |
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SUPER!~ General
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hey, to be fair for poor Lunamaria and her shaky ass shooting hand, that flying transport shot is a tough one. Even Char has missed that shot xD. |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Oct 4, 2013 4:40 pm Post #596 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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This is true but she gets a lot of flake for that from fans even though I didn't seen any of the other characters even try to stop the transport. They saw it coming and in Rey's case he knew it was happening yet they did nothing and Rey even blamed Lunamaria in the show over it and gave her a chance to redeem herself. Naturally Shinn didn't like Rey being that way with Lunamaria as they were dating at that point. Lunamaria had great potential at the start of the series considering how well she did in her Gunner ZAKU Warrior against the three stolen Gundams and even fight the Gaia face to face at close range combat despite Lunamaria using a ranged load out. Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Oct 4, 2013 4:40 pm.
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| tyrox9 | Fri Oct 4, 2013 4:43 pm Post #597 |
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SUPER!~ General
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ofcourse, it's worth thinking that maybe it was Rey's intentions to let Luna fail, so he can manipulate her with the whole 'Redeeming' thing. Y'know how dat Rey and and Durrandal like to manipulate. |
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| PhineBuyM3 | Fri Oct 4, 2013 6:22 pm Post #598 |
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Han's Unifier
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What do you hope to accomplish with all that flame? |
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| tyrox9 | Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:26 pm Post #599 |
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AH AH AH. let me stop you right there. i let out my two-cents, and even apologized ahead of time. And now, I dont wanna dwell on this and get more off topic. PM me if you wanna discuss it further. I wonder if Johnny Ridden will return in this game.... I miss him. Edited by tyrox9, Fri Oct 4, 2013 7:42 pm.
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| Joshelplex | Fri Oct 4, 2013 10:17 pm Post #600 |
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The Nightmare of Winnipeg
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Apologizing ahead of time doesn't make it not offensive. Singling out the American masses is also pointless since all masses, of any country, are like that. That's why they are the masses and not the elite. Kind of the point. The majority of the population will ALWAYS be like that, in any country. |
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