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| tyrox9 | Fri Oct 4, 2013 11:42 pm Post #601 |
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I wonder if they do bring back johnny Ridden will they make him playable finally, and add in his Custom Zaku. prolly be another Class 2, but still, i have fondness for that machine. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Sat Oct 5, 2013 12:02 am Post #602 |
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Johnny Ridden and his Gelgoog would be nice to see again same for Gato's Gelgoog I loved that inclusion in DWG1's story. I wonder what the chances of seeing the Destiny Black Tri-stars appear would be, pretty low I'd guess but I'd love to see there DOM troopers |
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| tyrox9 | Sat Oct 5, 2013 12:08 am Post #603 |
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Oh yeah. they could do Gato Gelgoog, since he could become a regular. Oh! and in the official mode, maybe it can be possible for the player to like go a long waya round solomon and face him in it's rear before fighting Dozle and big zam. I'd say the Destimy BTS have a fair enough chance to get in. but i could also see them getting skipped over without really losing much. If the DOM trooper is included, that seems most definite for a Class 2. if they are in, "Black Hex Stars" anyone? |
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| Wild Lion | Sat Oct 5, 2013 12:49 am Post #604 |
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So we might switch off characters and MS in mid battle eh? I like it. I wonder if we'll be able to go through Official Mode with a different MS after we beat it though. I remember that was a problem I had in previous games: The Official Mode stages were much cooler than the Mission Mode, but I couldn't bring my favorite MS in it. |
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| wodash | Sat Oct 5, 2013 1:15 am Post #605 |
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i see, i guess it makes sense since this was starting to become the trend with almost every musou game right now sans SW(wonder if SW4 will also use this kind of storytelling) Mu's death in SEED might be the only stage he's playable in official mode i guess, just like patroklos in Troy, one stage and you're put in a bus in the end as for GSD, that would very likely to happen probably not fluidly mid-combat aside from a few like Z's colony laser battle, the shift in character would probably be done between battles, not mid battle Edited by wodash, Sat Oct 5, 2013 1:18 am.
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| BlackKite | Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:57 am Post #606 |
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@tyrox9: Heya, a friendly reminder here. Your remarks in the last page went way too overboard. Just so that you know, flaming in any kinds are not tolerable in this forum, and if you do it again another time, the notice won't be as friendly from now. So I'd appreciate it if you could hold your manners and refrain from making such remarks again from now on. Thank you for your understanding. ![]() Oh and apparently the SEED fight where both Kira & Athrun are totally angry against each other (because each of their friends were killed) will be in the game too. I don't think Tolle will be there except for being mentioned in quotes, but I wonder about Nicol & Blitz Gundam.. |
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| Heat | Sat Oct 5, 2013 7:20 am Post #607 |
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I'm iffy on that. If they DO add Nicol and the Blitz Gundam (which in my opinion was the 2nd most useless Gundam in that series), then they'd have to add Yzak's and Dearka's Gundams as well (1st and 3rd most useless in that series respectively). It just sounds too excessive despite my personal bias in favor of Yzak as a character. I would much prefer it if they add Chaos/Abyss/Gaia, particularly that Stella's been confirmed as a pilot. Oh, and if they add Heine and his custom Gouf, I would be over the moon! Imagine Heine and Ramba Ral chiming in together in a battle: "THIS IS NOT A ZAKU!"
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| Zeik Liberated | Sat Oct 5, 2013 9:34 am Post #608 |
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I don't think we will see Heine because of his VA issues, I can't see them not adding the Joule Team though, there active in way to many battles and the early Seed mission aren't gonna be great if there not there. |
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| tyrox9 | Sat Oct 5, 2013 3:36 pm Post #609 |
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I think there is a pretty damn high chance of all the original GAT-X Gundams and pilots being added in. They were just too in the story not to be. Considering most of kira's early obstacles were fighting them, and their significance by the end. How exactly are you judging uselessness? By story significance or power? |
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| Joshelplex | Sat Oct 5, 2013 5:20 pm Post #610 |
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As usless as Duel and Buster may have been (ignoring that Yzak gets to kill Raider and Forbidden, for whatever reason that was decided) those two, as well as the Blitz, are the ONLY antagonists in the first half. We know we wont see things like the Zno, and the Lagowe is a very slight chance, but we cant ONLY fight one on one with Athrun for half the story mode. Yzak and Dearka are massively popular fan favourites, and Dearka even sides with the good guys at the midway mark. Yzak is th4e only real rival Kira has after Athrun swaps over, and Nichol dying is a major driving force. Those 3 need to be in, or the Official Mode is gonna suck donk. |
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| SazukeEX | Sat Oct 5, 2013 5:42 pm Post #611 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Eh, the Gundams should get in as they were important and fought multiple times in SEED and Destiny. Not having them would hurt the Official Modes too much. Besides, having them in would help sell the new Master Grades and stuff that are already being promoted in the Remaster stuff. Heine has no chance if they want to use TMRevolution. Too expensive. |
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| Heat | Sat Oct 5, 2013 5:57 pm Post #612 |
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I meant to say that in terms of capabilities, the Duel and the Blitz were easily outshone by the Aegis, the Strike and to a much lesser extent, the Buster too. I still don't know what to classify the Duel as. It's not a short/mid/long-range battle suit and it does not have espionage capabilities like the Blitz. It's rather bland for a Gundam IMO. Sadly however, it was piloted by my favorite of the Arhtrun's elite team in SEED. Anywho, this is naturally all very subjective but I just don't see the Duel as a "true gundam warrior". Then again, neither are any of the grunt suits, and they're all there. I'd rather see the Forbidden or Strike Noir in the game as opposed to Duel et. al but that would mean no chance of playing as Yzak so... Yeah, I'm torn. How about Yzak in his Gouf Ignited? =D |
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| SazukeEX | Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:03 pm Post #613 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Whether they're outshined or not doesn't change that they were very important and were what Kira had to fight a ton in SEED. Yzak and Dearka also appeared in Destiny battles as well. To save money they could easily just have Destiny Yzak and Dearka use the Duel and Buster from SEED for Destiny. Strike Noire has less of a chance of getting in than any of the Gundams featured in SEED/Destiny as it's part of an OVA which isn't a part of SEED/Destiny's official mode. The Astray's may not get in either and if they do get in than it'll most likely just be Red and Blue. Edited by SazukeEX, Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:04 pm.
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| Rakolai | Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:19 pm Post #614 |
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I'll agree that the Duel doesn't really stand out among the other GAT-X suits but it's sort of justified in the sense that it was the very first in the line. Plus, they could potentially give it a decent moveset if it comes with the Assault Shroud by default. For the Blitz, they could have the attack on Artemis where Nicol goes in by himself and disables the Umbrella. |
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| tyrox9 | Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:31 pm Post #615 |
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Yeah. Duel was pretty vanilla since it was the first Gundam in SEED. but it has an amazing pilot who together takes down enemies in far superior unit's than his own, so it balances out. And with Assault Shroud, Duel can have some nice moves between the "Shiva" and Mini-Nuke of a Grenade launcher. You don't give Nicol and Blitz credit where credit is due. The Blitz essentially destroyed the Artemis Base, a place credited for having an impregnable defense, alone. Just had Buster and Duel helping shoot it up, but only after he destroyed it's defense. And the Blitz also trumped the Archangel by itself, it survival only being because Kira directed his priorities to saving it. Edited by tyrox9, Sat Oct 5, 2013 6:32 pm.
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| Zeik Liberated | Sat Oct 5, 2013 7:09 pm Post #616 |
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Forbidden is a pretty safe assumption to be in anyway along with the other Druggies, without them the battle for Orb is gonna just be grunts and there's not a lot else but Rau and them to fight at the end of Seed. |
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| tyrox9 | Sat Oct 5, 2013 7:34 pm Post #617 |
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there is a lot of people who seem to think (or maybe they hope) that koei plans on completely half-assing the SEED stuff, and leave out a bunch of key characters and units. But considering that this is one of their main selling points for the game, i can safely say it ain't happening. The GAT-X gundams, druggies, ZAFT Red Coats, main villains, They are going to be included, and as full as any other show's equivalent would be. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Sat Oct 5, 2013 8:33 pm Post #618 |
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I have to agree there certainly a bunch of people who seem to think Seed and Destiny can have a Offical Mode without a bunch of adds. I don't think all of these will be Class 1 though. Kinda expecting the Druggies to end up as Class 2 along with the none Athrun/Kira GAT units just like how Zeta has a bunch of Class 2 Enemy units. it is gonna be weird with Class 2 Gundams though |
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| SazukeEX | Sat Oct 5, 2013 9:22 pm Post #619 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Can you blame them? After all it is Koei and you have to look at their bigger franchises of DW/SW which are missing many important characters. Especially DW where they cannot even finish the era yet even if they wanted due to missing additions after many games.
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| tyrox9 | Sat Oct 5, 2013 9:25 pm Post #620 |
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I think the Only Class 2's will be; CGUE (maybe class 3 though), Guaiz, Lagowe, Custom ZAKUS, GOUF Ignited. I feel certain that Strike and Aegis will be Class 1 since they are main character units, and major selling points. I think all the Gundams will be Class 1, because thing to remember is that much of Class 2 units are units that were semi-important in battle, like you cant just skip over them, but only appeared briefly for like a battle, and wasn;t centered like a final boss unit.. But units like Aegis, the Druggy gundams, etc, those last for long bulks of the show, some units like Buster, Duel, and Strike made it to the very end. under that basis, they were stronger, and important enough to get class 1. after all, talgeese II, a unit that appeared only briefly towards the end, and heavyarms Custom and Deathcythe Hell, units by character that didnt get a fraction of limelight the main characters got, were all class 1. |
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| Heat | Sat Oct 5, 2013 10:50 pm Post #621 |
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Well, I'm certainly one of the skeptics on the prototype Gundams and the Druggie Gundams making a show in this series. I personally think they'll skip over the fight with Yzak and the rest and just make them a series of Kira Vs Arthrun fights. Alternatively, there might be a chance that the Duel and the Buster will get the same moveset as the one of the Strike's assemblies with an overall color change to match that of the anime series. I'm not saying it's impossible for them to include them as some believe, I'm just saying it's going to be quite the hassle for Koei if they do. I also don't see their reasoning behind including the Freedom Gundam (and not the Justice for example) despite having both Strike and Strike Freedom. That being said, they are including the Savior so they're not really skimping out on Arthrun's time in the sun =D. If they do include the Duel, the Blitz, the Buster and the Druggie Gundams, then I have no doubt that they'll all have to be Class 1 suits. I also agree with the Gouf Ignited being a Class 2 suit if it gets included at all =). |
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| tyrox9 | Sun Oct 6, 2013 12:48 am Post #622 |
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Another thing to think about is the fact that units like Duel, buster, Blitz, or Druggies Gundams are very fully armed units. they aren't like the 3 weapon set ups; melee, vulcan, and other, like what stuff liek Wing Zero is. Duel has sabers, beam rifle, grenade launcher, missiles, rail gun. buster has beam rifle, gun launcher (bazooka rail gun? lol) missiles, Burst Shotgun/Spread Shotgun, Sniper Rifle. Blitz as beam saber, rocket anchor, trikeros shield, beam rifle, and Lancer Darts. these aren't standard units, they all bring something pretty big to the table, and have the means for a full, colorful, and powerful move set. |
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| Wild Lion | Sun Oct 6, 2013 12:59 am Post #623 |
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I'll give Seed credit for that: They loaded up the suits with more weapons than they knew what to do with. A lot of the weapons didn't even get any screen time in the show. |
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| tyrox9 | Sun Oct 6, 2013 1:03 am Post #624 |
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They all got used... just some a lot more than others... or rather, some a lot less than others *cough* rocket anchors *cough*. thats what makes Strike Noir so awesome... well, one reason anyways. not only does it frequently use those bad boys, it uses them in strides! just imagine if it was in the game and you could start flinging enemies at other enemies. |
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| Wild Lion | Sun Oct 6, 2013 1:14 am Post #625 |
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Perhaps they're going to take a note from EXVS and include something out of left field like Xi Gundam |
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