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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,308 Views)
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Kuroda
Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:30 pm
Would Murasame be the first transformable Grunt we have?

I know we have the Baund Doc but I would consider that a grunt.
We already have a couple of transforming grunts: Gaza C & D.
..although they couldn't really transform for moving. In GW3 the only occasion they transform is on Aerial SP.

...anyway maybe it's just me, but why do I think that Murasame might be a bit too flashy for a grunt? It looks a bit bulkier than most other grunts, its armaments are also more varied, and such. :blink: I've been thinking that it might be better categorized as an actual Class 2 unit, and Orb (& TSA) could just stick with M1 Astray for their mass-produced grunts.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:16 pm
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:24 am
Guntank's absence still baffles me.


I always wonder why they have zakutank, but no guntank.
because Zakutank are allowed to have the crappy moveset it had now, whereas people will probably flip out if Guntank is not at least at Guncannon's level of moveset(which is Class 1 or 2)

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There was an idea a while back for a MS to have different movesets depending on who is piloting it. Like if Domon was put in the Wing Zero, it would focus almost exclusively on melee attacks and only have a few TBR moves. This was kind of done with the Newtype suits in the first game, but it would be neat if it were expanded.


to be exact, there are no "newtype suits" in GM1, there's only Qubeley, so its very easy to give it that feature, then they realize how people will always rage if the 3 Qubeleys to have the exact same moveset for the next games and how there are going to be buttloads of newtype MS coming, so they ditched the neat pilot idea and dispersed the ONLY 2nd moveset that the game has to the 3 Quebeleys...

also, if heero were to be put in god gundam what will he do? self destruct it, because it doesn't really have any firepower at all. this already had been made into a story by Tokita(who made G, Wing, and EXA mangas) and it's just no go for these two to swap MS, domon is too dumb to operate levers, whereas Heero had no idea how to operate Mobile Fighters(there's also that one joke about Domon and FMP's Sagara swapping mechs, that didn't work either despite both are the same guy and both robots have the same principals)

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I'm still finding it difficult to understand why they added scwhartz but not spiegal.
it's because he is Kyoji and Kyoji is already in the game, they only need to draw a few stills and called it a day.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:31 am
also, if heero were to be put in god gundam what will he do? self destruct it, because it doesn't really have any firepower at all. this already had been made into a story by Tokita(who made G, Wing, and EXA mangas) and it's just no go for these two to swap MS, domon is too dumb to operate levers, whereas Heero had no idea how to operate Mobile Fighters
...yeah, that was a short gag strip in the back of the book.

Heero also used lots of melee and didn't rely on beam spam the way a lot of people make it out to seem. He used a beam saber on Heavyarms and beat both Tallgeese and Epyon in a saber duel. When he went to destroy a cargo plane did he blast it with the rifle? Nope, flew up to it and sliced it in half.
Edited by Wild Lion, Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:36 am.
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wodash
Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:31 am
Kuroda
Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:16 pm
tyrox9
Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:24 am
Guntank's absence still baffles me.


I always wonder why they have zakutank, but no guntank.
because Zakutank are allowed to have the crappy moveset it had now, whereas people will probably flip out if Guntank is not at least at Guncannon's level of moveset(which is Class 1 or 2)
And since Guncannon was promoted to Class 1 in GW3, no wonder I see some people in Japan expecting no less than a Class 1 Guntank... the hurdle is really high indeed :asia:
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I was wondering, is there a list of confirmed playable MS/MA?
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:35 am
I was wondering, is there a list of confirmed playable MS/MA?
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http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7098804/1/?x=0#post9484239
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Thanks. I'm unforgivable because I do know this topic. :hehe:
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Yes, I include G-Unit when I said all wing side stories suck. Do I like it yes, own all the manga and kits. Geminass (non space) is very high on my wish list. Maybe L.O. Booster. But, there is too many errors to fit it into the timeline/continuity. It is like they didn't even try to fit it into the series and just made it to capitalize on Wing's Success. I'm supposed to believe this happened the same time as Wing's events...

The person who said Gundam X additions were a lost cause...

X while having it's issues does have a nice niche fan-base for the designs and characters. EXVS got Visgro, X and Double X, the new gundam build fighters series will feature a Gundam X Maou variant, they just released 1/144 HGAW Double X Gundam and just announce this week that Jan 2014's Master Grade kit will be Gundam X... so who knows. DX came as a complete shock for GM3 too.

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Kite, that is pretty cool to see the upgrades on the beam sabers. It will be cool so see skills have more of an effect. Or perhaps it will be when the ms's melee is upgraded?
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Oh lord, I'm just imagining God Gundam with those extended sabers. As if it wasn't broken enough already.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:00 am
Yes, I include G-Unit when I said all wing side stories suck. Do I like it yes, own all the manga and kits. Geminass (non space) is very high on my wish list. Maybe L.O. Booster. But, there is too many errors to fit it into the timeline/continuity. It is like they didn't even try to fit it into the series and just made it to capitalize on Wing's Success. I'm supposed to believe this happened the same time as Wing's events...

The person who said Gundam X additions were a lost cause...

X while having it's issues does have a nice niche fan-base for the designs and characters. EXVS got Visgro, X and Double X, the new gundam build fighters series will feature a Gundam X Maou variant, they just released 1/144 HGAW Double X Gundam and just announce this week that Jan 2014's Master Grade kit will be Gundam X... so who knows. DX came as a complete shock for GM3 too.

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Kite, that is pretty cool to see the upgrades on the beam sabers. It will be cool so see skills have more of an effect. Or perhaps it will be when the ms's melee is upgraded?
Wait, Seriously?!, Sweet, I would've much preferred the DX first, since Ib et the gold panels on the HG are stickers, but hey, at least it's FINALLY getting a MG, lol.
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I hope they will confirm an european (and north american) release even if I'll buy it in japanese this time (then in european if it comes). It sucks that we can't have the series' musics in western version.
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The music isn't that important to me. Hard to pay attention to it when you're fighting anyway, and from the looks of it this game is going to be even more hectic than before. You probably won't even be able to hear the music over the sound of constant explosions.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:31 am
also, if heero were to be put in god gundam what will he do? self destruct it, because it doesn't really have any firepower at all. this already had been made into a story by Tokita(who made G, Wing, and EXA mangas) and it's just no go for these two to swap MS, domon is too dumb to operate levers, whereas Heero had no idea how to operate Mobile Fighters
...yeah, that was a short gag strip in the back of the book.

Heero also used lots of melee and didn't rely on beam spam the way a lot of people make it out to seem. He used a beam saber on Heavyarms and beat both Tallgeese and Epyon in a saber duel. When he went to destroy a cargo plane did he blast it with the rifle? Nope, flew up to it and sliced it in half.
there is a reason why Heero/WZ usually have poor melee stats in games. Hell, DWG even acknowledges his piss poor melee ability. That's why Heero has the 2nd lowest Melee stat of all the main characters (170). the first lowest being Garrord and Loran (169). and Wing Zero has THE lowest Melee stat of all Class 1 units (433).
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HAH! Even poor M'Quve's melee is better! And, if I am not wrong, the Gyan's melee is better than the Wing Zero!
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lol. and if im correct, mquve is the weakest character in the game....

edit: correction. Glemy is.
Edited by tyrox9, Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:16 am.
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In DWG3, people who bought the DLC suits couldn't use them in a lobby hosted by someone who didn't buy the DLC.

Have they addressed this at all for this game? I would imagine despite the giant roster they might still set aside some new DLC suits. Would hate to buy them and then not be able to use them online like DWG3.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:55 am
In DWG3, people who bought the DLC suits couldn't use them in a lobby hosted by someone who didn't buy the DLC.

Have they addressed this at all for this game? I would imagine despite the giant roster they might still set aside some new DLC suits. Would hate to buy them and then not be able to use them online like DWG3.
Um. I can't imagine it being too high on Koei's priority list, or even their mindset. Buuut i guess it wouldnt need to be in order to get fixed for this one. Sooo, maybe it could be.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:00 am
Kite, that is pretty cool to see the upgrades on the beam sabers. It will be cool so see skills have more of an effect. Or perhaps it will be when the ms's melee is upgraded?
Well apparently weapons will be upgradeable individually this time around, probably the beam saber extension and such would be part of that.



Anyway a grievous related news. Apparently the seiyuu for V Gundam's Cronicle Asher, Mr. Dan Tomoyuki, has just passed away... he was also famous as Kamen Rider W's Weather Dopant.. may he rest in peace.

This is very unfortunate indeed. If Cronicle & the Rig Contio haven't been added here yet, then the chances for him to be appearing in future sequels will be very slim from here on. :sad:

The only hope we have for V now would be to see Gottrlatan promoted to Class 1 MS..
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:55 pm
The only hope we have for V now would be to see Gottrlatan promoted to Class 1 MS..
Yeah it is sad new indeed :( however this much is a given surely. Of all the playable MS last time round i had this as the next one to go Class 1 next time round. In fact i quite fancy the Palace Athene and Bolinoak Sammahn (space battles are back - thus it should be as well) to be Class 1 as well this time round given the level of focus which will be on the few but comprehensive featured series for the main game mode.
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I'd think that the Gyan could be Class 1 this time, considering how there was only one of them in the series, and how that one was rather unique (he was fencing with the damn thing!). As far as Palace Athene and Bolinoak Samahn, I just hope that they play better than DWG2.
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Well apparently weapons will be upgradeable individually this time around, probably the beam saber extension and such would be part of that.
and by the looks of it, Burst mode gives you a glimpse of maxed out everything, seeing in how long Nu's beam saber got when he enters that mode in the demo

though i wonder how saber-less suit like Master will be affected since when we saw Big Zam's burst mode, it doesn't get any longer reach at all (which is understandable)

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Anyway a grievous related news. Apparently the seiyuu for V Gundam's Cronicle Asher, Mr. Dan Tomoyuki, has just passed away... he was also famous as Kamen Rider W's Weather Dopant.. may he rest in peace.
i don't care much about Chronicle since he's just a weird Ninja Char wannabe, we already got Katejinna anyways

but Dan himself passing away... now that's crushing...R.I.P Isaka sensei, that's 2 Battride War cast biting the dust now...they better make a sequel FAST, before somebody else died :sad:
Edited by wodash, Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:34 am.
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Gyan as a Class 2 is not decent moveset-wise so, it is hard to imagine it as a Class 1.
I recently give another try at Class 3 MS and think Gelgoog performs waaaaaay better than Gyan.
Subjectively speaking, I don't like Gyan and M'quve.
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Gyan as a Class 2 is not decent moveset-wise so, it is hard to imagine it as a Class 1.
I recently give another try at Class 3 MS and think Gelgoog performs waaaaaay better than Gyan.
Subjectively speaking, I don't like Gyan and M'quve.
Gyan was great in GM2 when its still a class 3 MS, they gave him all the wrong moves then upping his rank to class 2 in GM3
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man. Aint Mquve and Gyan popular lately, huh?
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man. Aint Mquve and Gyan popular lately, huh?
they're always popular, why else they took priority over more ZZ reps in this game>.<gimme Mashymere and Hamma Hamma NAO! :beard:
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