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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,304 Views)
Ma Su
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And Rezin, Gaia, Kayra, Hathaway, Chan, Johnny Ridden, Fa, Apolly, Roberto, Henken, Bask Om, Kyoji, Rain, and a recent favorite of mine: Dianna Soreil.

Note: I don't expect them to be playable, I'm just furthering your point about Aces (I know Dianna isn't a pilot, don't bug me about it)

God, I kill every topic I enter!
Edited by Ma Su, Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:12 am.
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Nothing unexpected. I guess they'll be revealing Freedom in the next article too :rolleyes:

I hope they start posting some gameplay videos up soon. I want to see if the new suits' movesets are as lackluster as the additions for GM3
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I wonder if the Bolinoak Samahn and Palace Athene will return? I still don't get why they got cut!
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A majority of the dialogue for these games are recycled from the animes, correct? I am pretty sure they are...as they tend to make no sense most of the time.

It is probably an unpopular opinion, but i'd love it if they recorded some new dialogue for this game to make it all feel less...well, dumb. Preferably with the original voice actors, as many as possible...but understandably not all of them would be available or willing...so just find someone close enough. I'd be okay with that, but then again I don't really have any real attachment to the source material. So I perhaps am not in a position to feel so strongly about it.

In other news, still no Sandrock...bleh! He's the only one who will make this a must buy for me (which is what I said for DWG3 and ended up getting it anyway <_< I am weak...whatever.)
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:53 am.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:50 am
A majority of the dialogue for these games are recycled from the animes, correct? I am pretty sure they are...as they tend to make no sense most of the time.
It is probably an unpopular opinion, but i'd love it if they recorded some new dialogue for this game to make it all feel less...well, dumb.
I agree with you on that. More original quotes needed.
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Well actually sometimes they do re-record the anime lines along with original lines for new games, so it shouldn't be too problematic there. The problem is if the original VA is no longer available due to death or permanent retirement.. Unless by any chances they get to use a new seiyuu, which for some reason is not very welcome in the Eastern fanbase, they'll have to use old-recorded library voices which renders it unable to have anymore original quotes.

So yeah, the concern goes to the Ples here. If they don't have any new original quotes from a new VA, most likely they'll be relegated to pure side characters in Ultimate mode..


Anyway to be frank I'm also kinda underwhelmed with today's reveals.. why show more new Official series units when they introduce Ultimate mode which is supposed to give some spotlight to the non-Official series..? :/
Edited by BlackKite, Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:42 am.
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Sweet to get all but confirmation on Cagalli looks like her VA has gotten over it finally. Also can't wait to use the Akatsuki wonder how they will work out that packs with that one?

Burst Mode is sounding cool but I wonder if certain combos are gonna be pretty busted. Metor is gonna be sick
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GP02A news is all I needed to confirm my Pre-order, which I just did some hours back :D
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I look forward to using Cagalli(Destiny) in the Akatsuki as it's her Gundam! Hands off, Mu!

We still have quite a few SEED/Destiny characters/mecha that are needed for official mode like all the Druggies and remaining Extended for example. So they may take their time showing more non-official mode mecha for other series.

Hope we get Altron and Sandrock Kai.
Edited by SazukeEX, Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:55 am.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:36 am
Didn't think Akatsuki had any chance of getting in, but it's a welcomed addition.
well, its moar power to Koyasu and his fans :kurokan:, i guess he plays the most number of different pilots in this game, VA wise?

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I wonder if the Bolinoak Samahn and Palace Athene will return? I still don't get why they got cut!


Only Bolinoak got cut in GM3, Palace Athene is still in the game, though a bit nerfed compared to the GM2 effectiveness wise, it got some new stuffs in exchange too, you don't really play these games, do you?

Bolinoak was not missed, because it was not impressive at all in GM2, and it's not supposed to be a combat MS anyways, Sarah and her MS served more use to Scirocco as The O's assist in GvG than in GM2(at least on that game it does what it was supposed to do, monitor the enemy)

so yeah i won't mind if it returns as a support only MS in this game, appearing in burst attacks or as an NPC

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So yeah, the concern goes to the Ples here. If they don't have any new original quotes from a new VA, most likely they'll be relegated to pure side characters in Ultimate mode


i really hope they brought back the whole GM1 storyline here, the Ples(mostly the original) had the most awesome lines and scenes there and they can just reuse them all, it'll be great for those who didn't buy the first game and is a Ple fan(double god/quebeley finger anyone?)
Edited by wodash, Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:07 pm.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:54 am
I look forward to using Cagalli(Destiny) in the Akatsuki as it's her Gundam! Hands off, Mu!
In fact, Cagalli's unit is the Strike Rouge, which is why Mu pilots the Akatsuki (and he does it better).
Don't misunderstand me though, I like Cagalli. I like Super Robot Taisen L's configuration where Cagalli is a support unit in the Strike Rouge and Mu pilots the Akatsuki.
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Akatsuki was given to her by her father, it was meant for her hands.

Though the strangest thing is that her father wouldn't know that Mu would still be around by Destiny. So why put in a system that Cagalli cannot even use fully when in space or the off chance Mu was still there or Kira needed a Gundam?

Furthermore, with her taking up political matters her skills would naturally decline so she wouldn't be at fighting shape in case ORB was attacked if she was never removed from power. Even with her time on the Archangel in Destiny she was still nowhere near Shinn's match so...

What was her father's mindset making that Akatsuki again?

I paired Cagalli with Athrun to give him that Love Bonus and had Athrun be the lead so he can still use combo attacks with Kira.

UX gave us a decent Shinn/Lunamaria combo attack. Really hope Z3 delivers in that department too.
Edited by SazukeEX, Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:56 pm.
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She was a coordinator too though. Or, was in Seed, and then never acknowledged again in destiny. I guess this technically confirms Mu, Cagalli and Angelo. I wonder if his Rozen Zulu will pop up?
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Does anyone know if there's been any word on whether the Operator system from GM3 will be upgraded or omitted?
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Apparently Strike Dagger is confirmed as a grunt suit in Sword Impulse's pic to the far left! Now there should be no worries on Official mode grunts as they at least should have all the minimum required grunts.

While Impulse is introduced with having Force, Sword & Blast packs, Strike Rouge is only introduced as having just the Aile pack. Probably for the basic moveset it'll be basically Strike's clone without the pack-changing gimmick? (which means expect difference in C3 & C4)

Akatsuki's moveset is mainly using the double-bladed beam saber and the Hyakurai beam rifle.
Angelo's Geara Zulu's SP is using the Custom Lange Bruno Cannon.

Hyaku Shiki is spotted for the first time, and Scirocco's name is also mentioned in the Burst example list.

When Burst Mode is active, the weapons will be at their max possible upgrade (max range etc), regardless of the current actual upgrade level.

Example of Burst Types by MS:
Trans-Am (00 Raiser, Reborns Gundam, Susanowo etc) <- etc might be hint of other Gundam Meisters appearing in-game!?
Increase movement speed and attack power

Magnet Coating (Gundam, Hambrabi)
Increase attack speed and power

Burst Types by Pilots
Battle Newtype (Amuro Ray)
Imbues slow motion to surrounding enemies

SEED (Kira Yamato, Athrun Zala, Shinn Asuka)
Thruster Gauge won't drain out, enabling endless usage of Boost

Pressure (Paptimus Scirocco, Haman Karn)
Gradually decrease health of surrounding enemies


And apparently in Ultimate mode, a scenario will consist of multiple missions, and when certain conditions are met, the scenario will be progressing or even branching
Edited by BlackKite, Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:46 pm.
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Turbo857
Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:28 pm
Does anyone know if there's been any word on whether the Operator system from GM3 will be upgraded or omitted?
there's no word yet, but yeah, the operator in Gm3 were quite useless, it does have a purpose of leveling said character up by keep using them as operator(which has less freindship gain than partner&ally or even you playing as the character yourselves, but it's there)


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And apparently in Ultimate mode, a scenario will consist of multiple missions, and when certain conditions are met, the scenario will be progressing or even branching


which is pretty word for saying "there will only be a handful of cutscenes in said mode", i'm guessing a cutscene at the beginning and end of a scenario, whereas the in-betweener filler missions will only have text dialogue that's may not even be voiced, not unike GM2's original mode(beginning of scenario:MS launch movie, scenario end, main character vs crossover rival movie)
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:01 pm
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I wonder if the Bolinoak Samahn and Palace Athene will return? I still don't get why they got cut!


Only Bolinoak got cut in GM3, Palace Athene is still in the game, though a bit nerfed compared to the GM2 effectiveness wise, it got some new stuffs in exchange too, you don't really play these games, do you?
I just have DWG2, I never had the money or, for the longest time, the system to play 3, so I never got it. I happen to have liked the Bolinoak Samahn, and I am sorry if I don't live up to whatever standard you have for playing these games and also that I miss some things when I read.
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Geara Zulu! Nice! I totally did not see that coming but I'd be lying if I said that I did not see the Akatsuki coming though. Ever since I saw that promotional video and I've been expecting an announcement of its release any day now =).

The Blast Impulse might just replace the Unicorn for being the most powerful suit in the game (and I don't mean stat-wise; that spot is reserved for the God Gundam).

Thanks for the scan BlackKite =).
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I spotted Daggers in the Blast Impulse and Sword Impulse pics, and what looks like a Jet Windam in the background of the Sword Impulse pic
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No mention of Destiny Impulse?
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:21 pm
No mention of Destiny Impulse?
Since they only just here established that Impulse will play Strike style, with the form changes, i say lets not quite give up hope for it, as their is still a sparkle of it left to be announced later on.
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Really feelin' how they've included different variations between MS and pilots for Burst mode. With most of the main Seed/Destiny MSs maxed out this looks like the best GM yet!
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The bulk of these adds were to be expected. I'm mildly surprised about Angelo's Geara Zulu but it still makes sense. If anything this increases the chances of Rozen Zulu making it in.

And now the EA in official mode has the minimum amount of grunts needed to function.

Still, i'm more concerned over the utter lack of reveals on anything outside of CE and Unicorn (Beargguy does not count).
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:21 pm
No mention of Destiny Impulse?
I believe there is only few hope for MSV units but if Destiny Impulse was to be included, I hope for unit 2.
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All this has done is increase the intensity at which my burning desire rages for Calamity. Please Koei, give us the druggies and their gloriously funktastic theme, and give us the stupid blue unnecesary amount of guns machine
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