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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,334 Views)
Crimsondramon
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GEKKOCHOU DEEEEEEEAAAAAAARUUUUUUUU.

Good to hear Zeong's finally got an upgrade! Will do my best to find Famitsu asap, cause I wanna see the rest of it! :D
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 1:57 am
Do you think the Western version will still call it DWG4, screwing up the numbering system like they did with DW and WO, or will they finally get with the program?
They will DEFINITELY ruin it here with this one too. I don't even understand how it is possible to screw it up. I mean, didn't Koei just tell them "Hey, it should be called TDW. Please fix that!", or "Please don't do that again, like back then with DW. MO:MS is WO:__ and not WO2. Remember that!". This time it will be "STOP ****ING WITH US :realangry: !!!!!".
Edited by ThreeKingdomsWarrior, Wed Sep 4, 2013 11:30 am.
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wodash
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i guess Strike(its just the regular, right? i rather have that than the ones with the weapon packs) being a new addition kinda makes sense melee wise, there's no dual dagger using MS in previous GM's yet, although Hyaku Shiki's moveset pretty much fits a dagger character pretty well

also, they totally screwed up with IJ's moveset before, perhaps Aegis will offer a much better and stylish way of how the MS fights with its leg sabers(please let it be its main melee, the hand held sabers are getting too generic right now), last time we saw it's successor's using it the right way was in GM2, in a friggin' cutscene/movie...
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If the Combination Burst can call warships now, I wonder how they are gonna handle warships this time around. Also does this maybe open up the Eternal and Meteors for the Freedom/Justice?

Looking forward to seeing how complete Seed's official mode is, I wouldn't mind not seeing more Destiny stuff if the Seed story line is mostly competed but there is quite a few Gundams to add to do that
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DW8, MO2U, DW8XL and now this. 4 musou games in a year? O_o

DWG3 was a huge disappointment for me. Good thing I only borrowed it from my cousin.
I'm going to keep my expectation low for SGM.

Playing as big MA/MS sounds interesting. But I'm affraid it's only for specific missions.

... and KOEI, put Spiegel in the game this time!
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ZhugeEX
Tue Sep 3, 2013 10:32 pm
Wait, this is called Shin Gundam Musou....

Well this could be a reboot, or spin off. Doesn't have a 4 in the title.
Knowing the practice Koei of America might do, it'll probably be dubbed "Dynasty Warriors Gundam 4" if it comes over here.
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 8:28 am
The shots are blurry, but those graphics are looking pretty good! Were there any pics of Strike?
Unfortunately that's the only scans I can find until now, so signs of any more better res scans...
Compared to all others, Gundam is the most underrated Warriors after all, it can't be helped... :sad:



So off to prediction time now. From GW3 we had 79 MS & 5 MAs. And now we have Banshee, Strike and Aegis, so that makes it 87 playable units.

Since they're bringing back Official Mode here, if CCA's story is featured again then for it to retain its quality they might have to put back MS that were mostly shafted in GW3. Oh and Z's Bolinoak Sammahn too while we're at that, so that should be most of the GW3 cut MS save maybe the MP Bawoos and Johnny Ridden's Gelgoog (poor guy, I wish he had a good chance of returning too)
PMX-002 Bolinoak Sammahn
RGZ-91 Re-GZ
MSN-03 Jagd Doga - Gyunei Custom
MSN-03 Jagd Doga - Quess Custom
AMS-119 Geara Doga - Rezin Custom
NZ-333 Alpha Aziel (MA)


Then if they're going to add official stories for SEED & Unicorn, which means these are the essential aces from both series
Unicorn:
RGZ-95 ReZEL
RGM-96X Jesta
MSN-001A1 Delta Plus
AMS-129 Geara Zulu
YAMS-132 Rozen Zulu
AMA-X7 Shamblo (MA)

SEED:
GAT-X102 Duel Gundam
GAT-X103 Buster Gundam
GAT-X207 Blitz Gundam
ZGMF-X10A Freedom Gundam
ZGMF-X09A Justice Gundam
ZGMF-X13A Providence Gundam
MBF-02 Strike Rouge
ZGMF-515 CGUE
TMF/A-803 LaGOWE


...I haven't even listed the SEED Druggies and some prominent SEED grunts (other than GINN since it's already in GW3), but if all MS listed above are added, then we'd have 108 already. If we assumed the limit of 'Over 100 = Max 109 units', then this would almost touch that limit.... And if I add Gundam Spiegel here then it'll fully touch the limit. No this won't work well at all.


So one of the possible scenarios from here might be:
1. Not all MS mentioned above are added, thus making the new Official Stories very lackluster (of course would be the worst in satisfaction rating)

2. Some units from GW3 may be removed. I could see some not too essential MS like Gouf Flight Type or Gedlav getting removed, but this still does little to open space for new MS

3. This could be a good one in the long run: Most Grunt MS might be no longer playable; for example if we omit all grunt units from GW3 (and let's consider promoting poor Bawoo back to Class 2 while we're at that), then we'd have 45 Class 1s, 8 Class 2s and 5 MAs = 58 initial playable units in SGM here, giving room for almost another half capacity of new Gundams, Ace MS and MAs.


The last one could be the best scenario to have, but somehow I kinda really doubt such thing might happen... :mellow:
Or maybe it could be scenario #3 but with some grunt MS still playable? (like GM, Zaku II & Ball)
Edited by BlackKite, Wed Sep 4, 2013 3:23 pm.
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JDogindy
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 7:39 pm
I figure that AGE will get Asemu (AGE-2 Darkhound) and Zeheart (Legilis) mostly due to Memory of Eden. I would be much happier with those adds then I would be Kio in AGE-FX.

Either way, i'm gonna wait until we have more info. I'm intrigued though.
I agree. Although Uso Ewin has been playable before (mentioning because both he and Flit Asuno were very young protagonists... or protagonist and antagonist, to be more honest), I strongly doubt that AGE will feature First Generation Flit and Desil, especailly considering that the villain from that generation is a seven-year-old and became the Vagan's biggest liability once he grew up.

Of course, because AGE had so many problems, not even the attempted "adult remake" can salvage it from potentially being more forgotten than After War X (where it belongs, because After War X doesn't deserve its neglect).

I know that the list appears solid, with SEED and Unicorn getting main storylines, but I got a feeling that 00 will also get some extra stuff into it. I'll be getting this game, but I'd be happier if Nena Trinity makes an appearance as one the civilian characters (I'd love to play as her... but the Throne Drei and even the Arche Drei suck royally at combat). More likely, we may, and I stress this word, may get some units and MA from DWG 3 removed from the playable roster. Of course, since the game is almost finished, we'll have to wait and see.
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If it was up to me I'd give the Wing team their Glory of Losers versions of their Gundams.
Though I would at least expect them add Wufei and Quatre, the two who are most melee focused....
Edited by Sum Gai, Wed Sep 4, 2013 3:32 pm.
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 3:18 pm
SEED:
GAT-X102 Duel Gundam
GAT-X103 Buster Gundam
GAT-X207 Blitz Gundam
ZGMF-X10A Freedom Gundam
ZGMF-X09A Justice Gundam
ZGMF-X13A Providence Gundam
MBF-02 Strike Rouge
ZGMF-515 CGUE
TMF/A-803 LaGOWE
Of these MS, I doubt that Freedom and Justice will get in. Stages that take place during events in which they are featured can be shown from another character's point of view (such as the Strike, Strike Rouge, or Buster) and substitute in the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice as allies.

Providence is pretty important for the climax of the SEED story but they might just throw Rau into a GINN for earlier stages to save time.

The Duel might not be as necessary compared to the Buster and Blitz. The Buster teams up with the heroes near the end and the Blitz getting destroyed is what kicks off the big fight between Strike and Aegis.

The LaGOWE could be fun to use (were there any quadruped MS in the other games?) but unless they add the BuCUE as well, I won't hold my breath for its inclusion.
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 3:18 pm
Some units from GW3 may be removed. I could see some not too essential MS like Gouf Flight Type or Gedlav getting removed, but this still does little to open space for new MS
Knight Gundam? :hehe:

i have no objections when useless grunts like the many GM's and Flight type aren't playable but Gedlav? come on!, it deserves a class upgrade to class 2 IMO(especially after the great performance at GVGNP), that way they can also bump the Gott to class 1
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Famitsu.com Article of Epic Win
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201309/05039426.html

SEED Destiny is also confirmed to be getting Official Story, so I'm totally expecting the Neo-Druggies (Chaos, Abyss, Gaia) and especially Stella with Destroy Gundam to appear. We might really need to sacrifice the ability to play as grunts to make way for these new additions.

Anyway seems like Ple-Two's Qubeley Mk-II is also nonchalantly confirmed among others :hehe:
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Losing the grunts/generics wouldn't hurt so much, if it meant getting more units with actually full-fledged movesets in their place.

But again...SEED seemingly being the only AU to get the Official Mode treatment hurts. Especially when they have a good number of Wing suits now that they could certainly make that happen.
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Some more observations:
ZAKU Warrior is confirmed as a new grunt type

In Unicorn's screenshots it seems to be fighting Zaku IIs instead... maybe they might not be adding Geara Zulu?
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:05 pm
Famitsu.com Article of Epic Win
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201309/05039426.html

SEED Destiny is also confirmed to be getting Official Story, so I'm totally expecting the Neo-Druggies (Chaos, Abyss, Gaia) and especially Stella with Destroy Gundam to appear. We might really need to sacrifice the ability to play as grunts to make way for these new additions.

Anyway seems like Ple-Two's Qubeley Mk-II is also nonchalantly confirmed among others :hehe:
That's fine by me.
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http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/039/415/5226afedaaa3c.html
Sneak peek of the front scans. Looks like the new logo will now be double-slashed by Unicorn, lol :hehe:
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Speaking of Ple-Two, I wonder who they're going to get to voice her and Elpeo Ple since Chieko Honda passed away earlier this year.

Also, I approve of Destiny getting an official mode. Come on, Akatsuki.
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:36 pm
Speaking of Ple-Two, I wonder who they're going to get to voice her and Elpeo Ple since Chieko Honda passed away earlier this year.

Also, I approve of Destiny getting an official mode. Come on, Akatsuki.
Chieko passed away? Aw...

I hope that a quality VA will step up to voice those two.

Now, SEED, SEED Destiny, and Unicorn have their modes... I wonder if any other series will get their own (I'm looking at 00).
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Wishful thinking but if they add in DW8 themes as bonus tracks you can select during battles that'd be awesome.
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:05 pm
Looks like the game is using the LTGL engine with an upgraded lighting system.

Definitely a PS3 game haha.

Hope it comes overseas!
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Man this is awesome, I hope gundam x gets some love by having virsago added, and I'd like to see gundam age added too, I enjoyed watching it. Besides, I got a weak spot for two things: pirates and gundams done up in black. (also really hopin' the Spiegal/shadow gets in)
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The graphics are really upgraded :woot:
Thank god I've passed Gundam Breaker, this is way better !
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 5:13 pm
The graphics are really upgraded :woot:
You're kidding right? GW3 looked better by far. This looks way too rough but the lighting system is better.
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 5:19 pm
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Wed Sep 4, 2013 5:13 pm
The graphics are really upgraded :woot:
You're kidding right? GW3 looked better by far. This looks way too rough but the lighting system is better.
It can't be compared really.
Cell Shading is so different.
It's like saying "Zelda Wind Waker graphics are better than Twilight Princess". Just because Wind Waker's cell shading was a nice touch.

To me the graphics is clearly an evolved version of DWG2's.
But yeah, I prefered Cell Shading as well.
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Hopefully the Destiny Gundam will play mostly the same. Loved its moveset.

I've given up hope on us ever getting the Impulse Gundam or the such. So Lunamaria is just gonna keep sharing the Destiny with Shinn than. Not like he can stop her as she wears the mini-skirt in their relationship.

Destiny Cagalli playable would be awesome too....

As would the Wing roster being finished up.
Edited by SazukeEX, Wed Sep 4, 2013 5:57 pm.
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