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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,297 Views)
tyrox9
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Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:23 pm
Well, she's clearly not a simple Natural because of her relation to Kira and her ability to go SEED which no other Natural has never done before. If anything she's a natural evolution for humans, unlike Kira who was manufactured to be special.
Coordinators. Seed mode. no relation.

Kira is the Ultimate Coordinator because he was extracted from his mother's womb, and was born via a machine that could correctly coordinate genes to perfection, without the influence of the mother's womb diluting the effects and process like any other coordinator.

Cagalli and kira's parents were both naturals. and she was born regularly. So in every sense, she is a natural.

SEED mode is the bridge to natural evolution, which is the true intention of what George Glenn wanted from his Coordinator program to do. not to make a superior race looking down at naturals, but to help teach and guide naturals, to evolve the human race. So anyone can have SEED mode, coordinator or natural.

it's likely, since cagalli and kira are technically twins, that they have genetically similar structures, and considering their father was brilliant enough to make the ultimate coordinator, among other achievements they have very capable genes in them and can both have the SEED factor in them.
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Ideally, Glemy's Bawoo would be class 1, but I'm betting more than likely ZZ will get literally nothing.
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if glemy and his bawoo return, i dont think it'll get above Class 2. especially considering Glemy is like, the weakest character in the GM series. Mquve is only slightly better and his gyan has only been class 2 thus far.
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The Bawoo is sick though, which is why it being a class 2 sucks.
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The Gyan actually jumped from class 3 in DWG 2 to class 2 in DWG 3. It is very possible that Gyan may jump up to Class 1 in this game. Personally I would love to see a class 1 Bawoo as well.

Heck, Guncannon has been elevated to Class 1 in 3 and i'm quite certain that a Bawoo could outmatch poor Guncannon.
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I would love for all class 2 unit's to become class 1. and many class 3 units to be class 2 xD. Dreamers can dream :)
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Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:13 pm
I would love for all class 2 unit's to become class 1. and many class 3 units to be class 2 xD. Dreamers can dream :)
Zeong and Gottrlatan are probably both becoming Class 1 suits already. Frankly I don't think it is a stretch to assume that a few other Class 2s may become Class 1s this time around. As for Class 3s becoming 2s? I don't really know at the moment.

Furthermore, Glemy's stats shouldn't be so low to begin with. You can't honestly tell me that his stats should be lower than Lacus Clyne's stats now can you? Those are simply inaccuracies within the game series itself.
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One thing I do wonder, as far as Unicorn's Official Mode is concerned, will we get the Full Armor Unicorn? I'd also wonder if they might try a little cross-promotion with whatever Full Frontal's new (I think?) OVA only MS is. I'm pretty sure he was using the Sinanju in the climax of the novel wasn't he? Will we just get the novel version finale then?
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tyrox9
Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:44 pm
if glemy and his bawoo return, i dont think it'll get above Class 2. especially considering Glemy is like, the weakest character in the GM series. Mquve is only slightly better and his gyan has only been class 2 thus far.
Yeah, M'Quve needs a stat boost. He should have stats like Domon, but weaker, as in he focuses on melee and he is fairly high ranking in the cast. I mean, he was the first one to damage the Gundam, even if it was just a scratch on its face plate. Also, the Gyan was entirely unique and rather powerful. It deserves a Class 1 treatment.
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:16 am
Yeah, M'Quve needs a stat boost. He should have stats like Domon, but weaker, as in he focuses on melee and he is fairly high ranking in the cast. I mean, he was the first one to damage the Gundam, even if it was just a scratch on its face plate. Also, the Gyan was entirely unique and rather powerful. It deserves a Class 1 treatment.
No, Mquve was not the first one to damage the Gundam.....

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Ramba Ral needs a promotion along with the Gouf. It has so much potential with that heat rod.
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:03 am
One thing I do wonder, as far as Unicorn's Official Mode is concerned, will we get the Full Armor Unicorn? I'd also wonder if they might try a little cross-promotion with whatever Full Frontal's new (I think?) OVA only MS is. I'm pretty sure he was using the Sinanju in the climax of the novel wasn't he? Will we just get the novel version finale then?
tough to say. ideally, i think at least, they would have unicorn with NT-D for it's burst mode. and then a second unit for FA Unicorn, since that's kind of like the upgrade.

but it's very possible they may continue having NT-D as a post SP buff, and FA unicorn as a burst mode.
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:24 am
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:16 am
Yeah, M'Quve needs a stat boost. He should have stats like Domon, but weaker, as in he focuses on melee and he is fairly high ranking in the cast. I mean, he was the first one to damage the Gundam, even if it was just a scratch on its face plate. Also, the Gyan was entirely unique and rather powerful. It deserves a Class 1 treatment.
No, Mquve was not the first one to damage the Gundam.....

Oops... Still deserves the Class 1 treatment more than the Gouf. The Gyan was unique, while the Gouf was mass produced. But, they both deserve to be Class 1, being the personal suits of two Aces.
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they should make Gyan like the one from Build Fighters. with Captain America Shield throws, and that singular Shield fire it used in the tourney in episode 3.
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The two new movies are up, Aegis and Angelo's Unit ^_^

Duel spotted in his assault shroud equipment when in combination burst mode and we see Yzak's pic (probably saying "don't order me around: lol)

So i'm going to safely assume the assault shroud is available to the Duel when in burst mode

Aegis looking pretty sweet with that crowd control moves
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Damn racist Bamco. I hope someone puts this on Youtube soon.
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From both videos, it seems like the aerial S-string may have been improved from 3 to 5 attacks.

In Aegis' video: First glimpse of Athrun's CE71 outfit. Aerial S-string is apparently using the MA form. CB Partner is Yzak & Duel Gundam, and seems like it does equip Assault Shroud for SPs & Burst Mode.
Yzak seems to have a clean face for his CE71 version, but I wonder if there will be a scarred version too.. lol

Angelo's Geara: I'll be very shocked if it turns out to be a Class 1 MS. And we still don't have Rozen Zulu yet on top of that... but that SP seems to be a bit too flashy to be categorized as a Class 2 MS, and the pose at the end of the SP... :blink:

Anyway, these videos should be available officially at Youtube in a week later, just like the first 2 videos yesterday
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Aegis was alright, but HOT DAMN that ANGELO BOW. Makes me wanna use him already!

Really wanna play the Geara Zulu Angelo custom now! :lol:
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Ok.. see, I was really curious with Aegis. Have a lot of expectations for it, really was hoping to see what it would do... Did nit disappoint, and holy crap it looks friicking crazy.

It's basic S String seems to consist of wide Beam Blades on the wrist, along with it's bladed foot for wide sidekicks, then turns to MA mode for some pincer strikes.

Among it's Charges, it appears to have an amazing looking MA Attack mode charge, ending with a scylla beam cannon shot, as well as a nice boomerang-esque shield throw.

and then it had has an awesome looking spinning MA Mode scylla beam SP.

Also got to see Duel Gundam briefly there, and it looks to have a nice SP where it barrage fires it's Railgun while firing a bunch of missiles in intervals, ending with a big railgun shot. very nice.

Lol. I loved seeing Angelo's geara Zulu doing the little royal bow when tagging in Full Frontal. a nice touch.

edit: Angelo may be giving the likes of Athrun and master Asia a run for their money as kicking kings with dat S String combo xD
Edited by tyrox9, Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:42 am.
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So we have 23 spots for videos... does this tell us how many more newcomers we can expect?
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:47 am
So we have 23 spots for videos... does this tell us how many more newcomers we can expect?
I kinda imagine there would be more. maybe just 23 big enough to warrant spotlights.

I gotta say though, poor banshee. get's confirmed day 1 on announcement. hasn't gotten like a single shred of footage or picture since.
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:50 am
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:47 am
So we have 23 spots for videos... does this tell us how many more newcomers we can expect?
I kinda imagine there would be more. maybe just 23 big enough to warrant spotlights.

I gotta say though, poor banshee. get's confirmed day 1 on announcement. hasn't gotten like a single shred of footage or picture since.
You're right, I completely forgot Banshee was even a thing here. I wonder why the delay? Along with Zhu Ran's render missing for weeks, it seems Koei is having a hard time keeping their reveals straight lately.

Glad I won't be disappointed with Aegis' moveset. It's my favorite Seed suit and I'll probably be using it a LOT.
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Mmhm. maybe, they jsut haven't finished it yet? cause i imagine it will have it's little 'Lion Form' upgrade thing from the end of episode 6. Norn, i think it is called? especially if we end up getting FA Unicorn. but, koei kinda gotta take a big step for that since we barely even seen it in action so far, still an episode left to go.

I imagine the demo videos will mainly be for A) Exciting new units, like Strike and Aegis, and Angelo gearu. B) Units that strongly show off new features, liek big zam showing MA gameplay. and C) maybe a couple old classics to show revamped gameplay compared to their old. which i imagine could be possible Nu Gundam or RX79 Gundam

edit: oh yeah, going back over the videos, in Aegis demo vid, confirmed ZZ colors Gaza D returning. get a good likea t them between 00:06-00:09
Edited by tyrox9, Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:07 am.
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Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:47 am
So we have 23 spots for videos... does this tell us how many more newcomers we can expect?

Let's see, assuming the video spots will be only for new MS and playable MAs,

GW3 playable MS: 79
MS cut after GW2: 8
Assuming all of the cut MS return, total: 87

87+23 = 110... seems still too far away from the promised 'over 120 total units'.



Anyway nice to see the Gaza D still existing, I guess that could mean ZZ wouldn't be losing any contents other than just the official story ^^

But something just strikes me in Aegis' video... Hayato is spotted still using the Guncannon right there :uh:
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maybe they aint ready to reveal guntank?
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