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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,286 Views)
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Thu Nov 7, 2013 6:01 am
This week's new early videos: Unicorn 02 Banshee and Legend Gundam

And as expected black suit Marida is the default pilot for the Banshee


Interesting choice seeing as Banshee isn't even on their website yet.

BlackKite
Thu Nov 7, 2013 6:21 am
http://ggame.jp/musou_movie.php

Banshee: Treize and Tallgeese II are spotted! Banshee seems to use a combination of beam saber and claw slashes. Burst Mode is Destroy Mode indeed. Note that when using SP outside of Burst Mode, it temporarily transforms to Destroy Mode, but as soon as the SP ends, it reverts back to Unicorn Mode

Legend: The moveset mostly consists of awesome all-range attacks supported by the DRAGOONs. But there are some more interesting spottages here: Lunamaria is now confirmed to be officially using Impulse Gundam, and Rezin Schneider is also spotted with her custom Geara Doga!


Rezin is confirmed, so that pretty much sures up that Sleggar, Hathaway, Kayra, Lalah, Johnny, Gyunei and Kycilia will be in the game in some form.
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There's any other link to see the new clips ? I can't see them, and I don't want to create an account just for that :/
The ofc.site isn't update yet.
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Thu Nov 7, 2013 9:14 pm
There's any other link to see the new clips ? I can't see them, and I don't want to create an account just for that :/
The ofc.site isn't update yet.
Nope, You'll have to wait until they come out on youtube next week like me.
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site will likely update with Banshee and stuff soon enough. Bout tiem banshee got some spotlight coverage, seeing as how it was revealed on day one.
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Thu Nov 7, 2013 12:56 pm
@Black Lion: I dont think MOST (not all) Wing fans care enough about the series they stand by. it's liek they just settle, happy that it gets to be present here in the 21st, and dont care for it to be improved.
those friends I mentioned previously who bought DWG 3 for the new Wing suits didn't like the move sets of some of the new Wing suits. So no, they can be just as critical about it.

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It's like when they want the TV units to be replaced with EW units. So WZ can lose a secret beam sabers, a piledriver shield, and its Neo bird mode (which was the entire point of Wing/WZ). For what? Chicken Wings and a blue paint job? So what few non buster rifle and non single slash moves can be replaced with more buster rifle moves. they would actually condemn the starring unit to this and enjoy it? certainly seems to, because whenever somebody argues the extremely lacking moveset and problems, they feel the need to make it sound like it's ok.


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What does Wing Zero really lose? A shield and its transformation? Its transformation has done little in previous DWG games. It took up one charge attack and in previous versions that charge attack has been taken up with a shield bash instead. Other than making it easier to travel around the map (and a thruster increase would nullify this loss) it really wasn't featured in DWG. Wing Zero EW could instead focus on a more shot oriented move set which was its strong point to begin with. That's sounds like a good idea to me.


and you know what? I'm going to take this a step further now. No, Wing Zero EW doesn't have to be more Buster Rifle focused either. The two moves that would be seriously affected by this would be its C3 and its C5. Those can easily be replaced by:

-A forward charging attack, where EW surrounds itself in its Wings and spins (much like Kshatriya's Charge attack)
-A move much like Double X where it uses it Vulcans/Machine Cannons to lift targets into the air.
-entirely new melee strings and Charge attack involving two beam sabers. That's right, because of the shield being removed, Wing Zero can suddenly wield two beam sabers.

Let me be blunt, lacking move sets are the fault of the creator. Move sets are only as good as the creators imagination. There is a ton of potential with a lot of these suits but its ultimately up to the devs on how they are utilized.


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only so many ways you can swing your scythe


Zasalamel would not be amused. :hmmm:

As for what they are going to do with the previous Wing suits? I doubt they will do very much just like how they won't do very much with suits from X, G, Turn A, 00, and any other series that isn't getting a official mode in this game. I'm sure we'll see a charge attack swapped here or there and a few good burst modes but really, so far its apparent that their focus is on suits from the Official modes.

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tyrox goes a great way to paint Wing fans as a bunch of bumbling uncritical idiots.
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I hope they add some variety to the Burst modes for the other suits. It seemed like all the "power ups" from the previous games (Zero System, Moonrace, Newtype, Seed Mode, etc) were all the exact same thing with different names.

It seems that Newtype burst modes slow down time, while Seed Mode gives infinite thrust now, so I wonder what Zero System will do? In EXVS, it made it so no attacks could track WZ, but since there is no tracking in this game anyway, I wonder what it's going to be. I wouldn't be surprised if it also slowed down time, since that sounds like it fits the theme of a computer that can tell you what's going to happen before it does.
Edited by Wild Lion, Fri Nov 8, 2013 1:27 am.
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I recall Zero System in previous GM game revolving around defense. So i kinda picture that. maybe a big def boost, but an interesting idea is maybe ZS could give the unit super armor, so it doesn't take stun/flinch when hit, and can attack through it. Like Zangief.
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Well we're already going to have different effects of Burst mode by MS. 00 Gundams' Trans-Am and RX-78-2's Magnetic Coating both will increase attack power, but Trans-Am will be more towards increasing movement speed, while MC will be instead making attack speed faster.

For a refresher back then in GW1, Newtype and other series perks were treated as equippable skills, with the following effects :)
Newtype & Cyber-Newtype: Won't get hit by projectiles when dashing
Elite: Increases thruster gauge recovery speed
School of Tohofuhai: Increases attack power when on red HP
Zero System Mastery: Decreases guard stiffness time
Moonrace: Gain a random temporary boost for each 50 shotdowns
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Yeah I liked those skills. I hope they bring some things back from GM1, especially the skills, stages, and storytelling. I also liked having different SP attacks depending on how many stocks you had.

The upgrade system however, can stay in GM1. That's the one thing that's consistently gotten better.
Edited by Wild Lion, Fri Nov 8, 2013 2:36 am.
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Awesome that Lunamaria is featured in the Impulse beyond just Official Mode.

Makes me wish this had WO mecha swapping in battle so I could have Team Shinn, Lunamaria, and Rey.

Would replace Rey with Athrun if we had Savior.
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I noticed in Banshee's video that the Burst gauge did not lower at all after it was activated. I wonder how long it lasts? Maybe different suits can use it for different lengths of time?
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Fri Nov 8, 2013 3:11 am
I noticed in Banshee's video that the Burst gauge did not lower at all after it was activated. I wonder how long it lasts? Maybe different suits can use it for different lengths of time?
Rey's SP & Burst gauges don't get depleted either, even after launching SP and activating Burst Mode.

Probably for this week's batch, they're setting up an 'always max SP & Burst gauges' cheat code so that they can show the SPs anytime they want :hehe:
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Fri Nov 8, 2013 2:27 am
Yeah I liked those skills. I hope they bring some things back from GM1, especially the skills, stages, and storytelling. I also liked having different SP attacks depending on how many stocks you had.

The upgrade system however, can stay in GM1. That's the one thing that's consistently gotten better.
Moonrace and school of Tohofuhai gets carried over to the sequels as equipable skills though, only the other 3 didn't make it into GM2/3 IIRC

as for the SP attack, different attacks would be okay, but GM1's SP attacks was not only different, it launches 3 different attacks, 99% of which did not make sense at all, you hit with one move, there's a chance the rest 2 will just hit air, especially if you want to focus it on a boss, which makes WZ the only MS in that game that can easily use his lv3 SP against anything, not just crowds, come GM2 onwards, his SP attack is just mediocre since everyone else gets better control of their SP's too
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I noticed in Banshee's video that the Burst gauge did not lower at all after it was activated. I wonder how long it lasts? Maybe different suits can use it for different lengths of time?
it's a demo/trailer/unfinished build(whitebase burst spam in the TGS demo anyone?), we can't base our guesses by looking at the gauges on these vids,
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Oh the build is completely finished by now. If they want a release in just over a month, they've already started printing the discs and packing them up to be sent to stores.

I'm not saying bring back the exact same SPs from GM1, I'm saying I like the concept and I think they should revisit it. I never had a problem hitting bosses with all 3 attacks for most MS, the only ones that gave me trouble were the waverider SPs like Epyon that you couldn't control. But this new lock-on feature would fix that anyway.

I'd also like to see a skill to swap the ground and air SPs. Some MS like Turn-A have a much better air SP and those are tough to pull off when you're getting hammered by a group of Aces, and that's when you need it the most.

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Lol. well.. I think its safe to hope that Zero System doesnt still do that xD.

is it just me, or does the upside down banshee look like Gundam Astray Gold Frame Amatsu?
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Hey, sorry to be a pest... again... but could someone with access to the videos try to look at Rezin's Geara Doga's stance as compared to the standard?
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Chinese uploads are now available ^^
http://psv.tgbus.com/news/video/201311/20131108141744.shtml

You can spot Rezin in Legend's video right after it's activating Burst Mode, but she suddenly dashes to the left and doesn't appear on the screen again since.
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Chinese uploads are now available ^^
http://psv.tgbus.com/news/video/201311/20131108141744.shtml

You can spot Rezin in Legend's video right after it's activating Burst Mode, but she suddenly dashes to the left and doesn't appear on the screen again since.
Ah, just like in her original appearance :XD
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Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:35 am
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Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:05 am
Chinese uploads are now available ^^
http://psv.tgbus.com/news/video/201311/20131108141744.shtml

You can spot Rezin in Legend's video right after it's activating Burst Mode, but she suddenly dashes to the left and doesn't appear on the screen again since.
Ah, just like in her original appearance :XD
lol. dont egg him on.
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How rude... Oh well. Thanks for the link BlackKite!

Edit: Can't find her, around what time does she appear?

Edit 2: Never mind, found her... Damn low quality.
Edited by Ma Su, Fri Nov 8, 2013 10:39 am.
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All in good fun, Salty.

At this point I hope everyone is relieved of any doubt that all the characters from the past games will be returning.
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all i want from the past would be Ridden, i could care less about the likes Sleggar, Fa(unless they add Methuss), Hathaway, and Gyunei being playable pilots
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Banshee is way more agressive than Unicorn like it should'be, Legend is something like I've pictured in my mind :lol:
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I imagined banshee will be far more fierce melee, as opposed to the powerful range that unicorn offered with beam magnum and Gatling Gun.

I want Sleggar and Johnny back. but make Johnny playable this time.

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