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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,282 Views)
Wild Lion
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Buster and Duel have already been spotted, so there's no way they left Blitz out
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Abyss ! I can't belive I'll be able to play with it F'Yeah ! :lol:

Will be possible to use his MA mode and dive into water ? That's something that I would love to see.
Edited by Lazaroth, Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:41 am.
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So this is essentially "Dynasty Warriors Gundam Cosmic Era" :/

These adds do not bode well for adds outside of CE and Unicorn. Not well at all. I think we can safely assume that Justice, Providence, Blitz, and likely even Saviour are in now.....
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So this is essentially "Dynasty Warriors Gundam Cosmic Era" :/

These adds do not bode well for adds outside of CE and Unicorn. Not well at all. I think we can safely assume that Justice, Providence, Blitz, and likely even Saviour are in now.....
Unfortunatly I think you're quite right. Guess the other series will have zero to none chances for new add's.
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Well we already have a great Gundam Seed game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhLRnUix3y4

And a great Gundam Unicorn game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXHKVgWHpRo

I just don't see why Koei feels the need to rehash something that's already been done better by another developer very recently. It would be smarter to go into the series that are rarely seen, to draw people's attention. Musou games are fun, but they can't compete with these, and especially not with EXVSFB which not only has most of the same suits, but also has better ones to choose from and is a technically superior game in every way.

It just seems to me that if you want to sell something to Gundam fans and you have a bunch of stiff and popular competition, you should probably focus on the fans that your competitors are NOT currently pandering to. I love Unicorn as much as the next guy, but I don't need it being the focus of every damn Gundam game for the next decade.

G, X, Wing, Turn-A, Victory, F-91, 0083, 0080, ZZ, Crossbone, these series never got any good exposure in action games and have large fanbases that would gladly pay for them. It looks like Bandai just wants to ignore half of their customer base.
Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:06 am.
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Calamity and Chaos, oh thank god. Need the Druggy theme though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKc6P_4K2Jc

At this point, all we need is Buster, Raider, Duel, Blitz, Lagowe, Justice, Saviour and Providence to get confirmed and CE is actually good to go. I think that actually still leaves us with about 7 r 8 slots no? Delta Plus is a definite, a couple others can get added to UC, maybe some other series will get a little padding?
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:38 am
G, X, Wing, Turn-A, Victory, F-91, 0083, 0080, ZZ, Crossbone, these series never got any good exposure in action games and have large fanbases that would gladly pay for them. It looks like Bandai just wants to ignore half of their customer base.

This is true, but you can't just forget the already popular areas and expect good sales. Happy to see the Abyss Gundam, more marine suits are ALWAYS welcome to me!
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:38 am
G, X, Wing, Turn-A, Victory, F-91, 0083, 0080, ZZ, Crossbone, these series never got any good exposure in action games and have large fanbases that would gladly pay for them. It looks like Bandai just wants to ignore half of their customer base.

This is true, but you can't just forget the already popular areas and expect good sales. Happy to see the Abyss Gundam, more marine suits are ALWAYS welcome to me!
You can't expect good sales when you're just an inferior version of another game coming out right beside you either. Every place that's not Koei Warriors has nothing good to say about Gundam Musou (kusoge!) and instead tell everyone to wait for FB. The few people who were positive about it were only hoping for something unique to get added. Which, by the looks of things, is not gonna happen.
Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:27 am.
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I think CE is getting the treatment here cause its been SEED's 10 year anniversary, and nearing Destiny's 10 year too. I've read some speculation that maybe they are reviving CE's finale movie, and going to annoucne it had the end of Destiny HD, as it was announced after SEED HD. I believe GM3 was near Wing's 15 year mark, so it was getting some push then too, so i imagine that this time stuff is generally a factor in the decisions.

But also gotta take into consideration that CE is the most fleshed out AU timeline in gundam. where every other au timeline would offer a series, and maybe some small OVA/manga after stuff, CE offers two series, an OVA, and an entire expanding side story in the Astray series. these aren't a bunch of units all for one series, its a bunch of units for 2 series. It just has the most to offer as it expands further than anything non UC.

As for unicorn, they have something to expand the traditional tomino UC timeline after CCA. it's, kinda, the newest gundam series. it all kinda just fits in for them.

tldr; don't forget that the Unicorn and CE unit additions are actually for 3 series, not just two.

@Josheplex: dat jazzy funk xD

Edited by tyrox9, Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:25 am.
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:22 am
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:08 am
Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:38 am
G, X, Wing, Turn-A, Victory, F-91, 0083, 0080, ZZ, Crossbone, these series never got any good exposure in action games and have large fanbases that would gladly pay for them. It looks like Bandai just wants to ignore half of their customer base.

This is true, but you can't just forget the already popular areas and expect good sales. Happy to see the Abyss Gundam, more marine suits are ALWAYS welcome to me!
You can't expect good sales when you're just an inferior version of another game coming out right beside you either. Every place that's not Koei Warriors has nothing good to say about Gundam Musou (kusoge!) and instead tell everyone to wait for FB. The few people who were positive about it were only hoping for something unique to get added. Which, by the looks of things, is not gonna happen.
Yeah, and when they are selling to those people you will be right. Except that their target audience is us: the people who are fans of Dynasty Warriors Gundam, in addition to our favorite series. I'm not getting into an argument here, I don't have the time. So, a new topic: Sea stages, yes or no?
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Abyss and forbidden. . . . Sweet jesus i'm excited for those still want the shuffle alliance and the last two wing pilots.
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:31 am
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:22 am
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:08 am
Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:38 am
G, X, Wing, Turn-A, Victory, F-91, 0083, 0080, ZZ, Crossbone, these series never got any good exposure in action games and have large fanbases that would gladly pay for them. It looks like Bandai just wants to ignore half of their customer base.

This is true, but you can't just forget the already popular areas and expect good sales. Happy to see the Abyss Gundam, more marine suits are ALWAYS welcome to me!
You can't expect good sales when you're just an inferior version of another game coming out right beside you either. Every place that's not Koei Warriors has nothing good to say about Gundam Musou (kusoge!) and instead tell everyone to wait for FB. The few people who were positive about it were only hoping for something unique to get added. Which, by the looks of things, is not gonna happen.
Yeah, and when they are selling to those people you will be right. Except that their target audience is us: the people who are fans of Dynasty Warriors Gundam, in addition to our favorite series. I'm not getting into an argument here, I don't have the time. So, a new topic: Sea stages, yes or no?
Not everything has to be an argument, it's simply a discussion.

I'm all for underwater stages, but they need to be more than just another texture swap like the Space stages. They need to add platforms and levels so that we could jump on top of boats and islands and have different levels of water like the shallows and trenches. Underwater is pretty boring without any of that, because unlike space which has asteroids and satellites and stars and nebulae to look at, the ocean floor is pretty damn sparse and empty. Especially when you're as big as a MS.
Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:40 am.
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I agree, also some suits (looking at you Z'Gok, Kapool, and Acguy) should get big stat boosts underwater. Maybe even mixed terrain stages?
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I agree, also some suits (looking at you Z'Gok, Kapool, and Acguy) should get big stat boosts underwater. Maybe even mixed terrain stages?
That's a cool idea, I'd like to see terrain bonuses and penalties for certain suits like they have in the SRW series. Chaos Gundam would get a bonus for space stages, maybe like a bigger thruster gauge or just faster movement speed.
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:07 am
Calamity and Chaos, oh thank god. Need the Druggy theme though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKc6P_4K2Jc

At this point, all we need is Buster, Raider, Duel, Blitz, Lagowe, Justice, Saviour and Providence to get confirmed and CE is actually good to go. I think that actually still leaves us with about 7 r 8 slots no? Delta Plus is a definite, a couple others can get added to UC, maybe some other series will get a little padding?
Buster & Duel are already spotted in the gameplay videos
Raider's just been 100% confirmed in this batch

Providence is a given, they'll have to include SEED's final boss to accurately depict the official story's final stage
Justice also has high probability since Freedom is already in

So IMO the only ones still in the limbo would be Blitz, LaGOWE and Saviour. I think Blitz still has a decent chance though if they want to correctly depict SEED's first stage, plus we already got the complete Gundam list for SEED Destiny's first stage as well (Impulse, Gaia, Chaos, Abyss)

Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:22 am
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Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:38 am
G, X, Wing, Turn-A, Victory, F-91, 0083, 0080, ZZ, Crossbone, these series never got any good exposure in action games and have large fanbases that would gladly pay for them. It looks like Bandai just wants to ignore half of their customer base.

This is true, but you can't just forget the already popular areas and expect good sales. Happy to see the Abyss Gundam, more marine suits are ALWAYS welcome to me!
You can't expect good sales when you're just an inferior version of another game coming out right beside you either. Every place that's not Koei Warriors has nothing good to say about Gundam Musou (kusoge!) and instead tell everyone to wait for FB. The few people who were positive about it were only hoping for something unique to get added. Which, by the looks of things, is not gonna happen.

This, that's why I really wish this game would be released at a much later time so that it wouldn't get all its spotlights eaten like this. I could wait for another year if it means the game can get its deserved spotlights and also they can provide a complete Unicorn story to the end, since Unicorn OVA will have fully ended by then
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Hi there I just signed up to join in the Gundam and Koei goodness!

The recent update with the Blue Cosmos/Logos/Phantom Pain pilots is awesome.

But I'm sweating buckets about whether Rau le Creuset and the ZGMF-X13A Providence Gundam will make the cut. But I'm cautiously optimistic that he will get in.

Rau has been my number one wish since playing the first Gundam Musou he's my favorite character in Seed and my favorite Gundam Villain next to Char Aznable.


I have a question will Shin Gundam Musou be released digitally? Or will it be one of the "Disc/Card only games".

I ask cause I'm wondering do I import a copy or download it day one and get stuck into it. :)
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心眼ダム夢想  PS3 VITA        ロボットもの好きか?痴漢?wwwってアーマードコアXβ爆死でロボット興味ねーーーんだったわwwwww

△長尾氏でチャージショット
コンボをいつでもキャンセルできる
有縛にも繋がる

機体の強化には強化プランの合成も可能
ガイアちゃんと変形してる
w00t some gameplay details finally!
You can now hold T button to charge up the shot attack
Combo can be canceled anytime, it can also connect to a 誘爆 chain explosion

Upgrading the mechs can be done by combining upgrade plans/blueprints
And apparently Gaia Gundam is shown transforming in a screenshot (most likely the others should too)
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:02 am
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心眼ダム夢想  PS3 VITA        ロボットもの好きか?痴漢?wwwってアーマードコアXβ爆死でロボット興味ねーーーんだったわwwwww

△長尾氏でチャージショット
コンボをいつでもキャンセルできる
有縛にも繋がる

機体の強化には強化プランの合成も可能
ガイアちゃんと変形してる
w00t some gameplay details finally!
You can now hold T button to charge up the shot attack
Combo can be canceled anytime
, it can also connect to a 誘爆 chain explosion

Upgrading the mechs can be done by combining upgrade plans/blueprints
And apparently Gaia Gundam is shown transforming in a screenshot (most likely the others should too)
I wanted this in another thread, but didn't think it would actually come to fruition.
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w00t some gameplay details finally!
You can now hold T button to charge up the shot attack
Combo can be canceled anytime, it can also connect to a chain explosion

Upgrading the mechs can be done by combining upgrade plans/blueprints
And apparently Gaia Gundam is shown transforming in a screenshot (most likely the others should too)
Now that's something worth hearing!

I remember we were just talking in the other thread about being able to charge up your shots! I wonder how this is going to work for the automatic guns? You can't charge a bullet...

So is the combo canceled by dashing? Couldn't we already cancel it at any time with Emergency Dash? Or can we cancel at any time with a block now? That would be much more useful.

I like the combining blueprints idea, maybe they'll ditch the money system and just go with unlocking everything from now on.


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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:01 am
Hi there I just signed up to join in the Gundam and Koei goodness!

The recent update with the Blue Cosmos/Logos/Phantom Pain pilots is awesome.

But I'm sweating buckets about whether Rau le Creuset and the ZGMF-X13A Providence Gundam will make the cut. But I'm cautiously optimistic that he will get in.

Rau has been my number one wish since playing the first Gundam Musou he's my favorite character in Seed and my favorite Gundam Villain next to Char Aznable.


I have a question will Shin Gundam Musou be released digitally? Or will it be one of the "Disc/Card only games".

I ask cause I'm wondering do I import a copy or download it day one and get stuck into it. :)
Hi, welcome to the KW Forums! Enjoy your stay here :D

I think Rau & his Providence are pretty much definite adds since they're indispensable as the first SEED's final villain and they'll also need to correctly depict the final battle cutscenes, so he should be eventually confirmed in future batches ^_^

As for your question, yes apparently there will be a digital version available too, however they don't seem to put much emphasis on it since the price will be exactly the same as the physical version ^^;
(Usually digital versions often have cheaper prices than physical versions which would be why they often mention the prices separately if they're different)
Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:08 am
So is the combo canceled by dashing? Couldn't we already cancel it at any time with Emergency Dash? Or can we cancel at any time with a block now? That would be much more useful.
Yeah, I'm not too sure about it either, it's still rather vague. You can already cancel S-strings with Emergency Dash, and charge attacks with Boost Dash, so I wonder what else is there..

Probably will have to wait until a full scan is out to make it out

EDIT: Oh wait I think it's directly related with the Charge Shot
Edited by BlackKite, Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:12 am.
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I'm all for multi terrain levels and stat boosts for environment specific suits; it would definitely make you more cautious when faced against a suit in its proper deployment. Stages that allows submerging could also open up the inclusion of some more rare unit load-outs. Unfortunately Leopard Gundam is the only main unit that comes to mind that actually had a full refit just for marine combat. Anybody able to think of other main units that had marine specific refits?
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Maybe we can somehow cancel our combo with a Charge 1 shot now?

If you look at Banshee's gameplay video, you can see that it uses a regular Shot attack at many points during its combo after a different charge. At first I thought they just put the same shot on the end of multiple attacks, but now I'm thinking it was canceling its combo WITH a Charge 1.

If that's the case, that would be very helpful, like adding an extra hit onto any charge attack you want. But I don't see how we would be able to do it unless the Shot is now assigned to a different button.
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Damn I'm slow at typing all of this is also good news and intriguing to say the least.
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Hi there I just signed up to join in the Gundam and Koei goodness!

The recent update with the Blue Cosmos/Logos/Phantom Pain pilots is awesome.

But I'm sweating buckets about whether Rau le Creuset and the ZGMF-X13A Providence Gundam will make the cut. But I'm cautiously optimistic that he will get in.

Rau has been my number one wish since playing the first Gundam Musou he's my favorite character in Seed and my favorite Gundam Villain next to Char Aznable.


I have a question will Shin Gundam Musou be released digitally? Or will it be one of the "Disc/Card only games".

I ask cause I'm wondering do I import a copy or download it day one and get stuck into it. :)
Hi, welcome to the KW Forums! Enjoy your stay here :D

I think Rau & his Providence are pretty much definite adds since they're indispensable as the first SEED's final villain and they'll also need to correctly depict the final battle cutscenes, so he should be eventually confirmed in future batches ^_^

As for your question, yes apparently there will be a digital version available too, however they don't seem to put much emphasis on it since the price will be exactly the same as the physical version ^^;
(Usually digital versions often have cheaper prices than physical versions which would be why they often mention the prices separately if they're different)
Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:08 am
So is the combo canceled by dashing? Couldn't we already cancel it at any time with Emergency Dash? Or can we cancel at any time with a block now? That would be much more useful.
Yeah, I'm not too sure about it either, it's still rather vague. You can already cancel S-strings with Emergency Dash, and charge attacks with Boost Dash, so I wonder what else is there..

Probably will have to wait until a full scan is out to make it out

EDIT: Oh wait I think it's directly related with the Charge Shot
Thanks for responding.

Yeah that's my thoughts too.

The final stages of the Battle of Jachin Due wouldn't be the same without Rau. I just hope Koei doesn't cut corners and just put him in the Legend Gundam to save production time (since Providence and Legend are similar that would cheapen the experience).


The news of the Gaia Gundam makes me happy because there's huge chance that Andy Waltfeld will be in the lineup! :)

That's good news about the digital I might as well get some points ready before December 19th.
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Has the banshee been added to the official site yet? Seems a bit odd that it hadn't since it was one of the first units revealed
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