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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,281 Views)
BlackKite
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:15 am
Maybe we can somehow cancel our combo with a Charge 1 shot now?

If you look at Banshee's gameplay video, you can see that it uses a regular Shot attack at many points during its combo after a different charge. At first I thought they just put the same shot on the end of multiple attacks, but now I'm thinking it was canceling its combo WITH a Charge 1.

If that's the case, that would be very helpful, like adding an extra hit onto any charge attack you want. But I don't see how we would be able to do it unless the Shot is now assigned to a different button.
Yeah, it's that. Charge Shot can be used to cancel combos, and it can also induce a chain explosion if enemies are destroyed with it.

And a nice observation on Banshee's video indeed. Hopefully if the schedule is unchanged, the official HD videos should be up at Youtube in about less than 3 hours from now ^_^
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welcome new guy.

And i think Charge 1s and Charge 2s need some sort of added... ability about them to promote their usage. because theirs only a handful of truly useful charge 1s/2s
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:23 am
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:15 am
Maybe we can somehow cancel our combo with a Charge 1 shot now?

If you look at Banshee's gameplay video, you can see that it uses a regular Shot attack at many points during its combo after a different charge. At first I thought they just put the same shot on the end of multiple attacks, but now I'm thinking it was canceling its combo WITH a Charge 1.

If that's the case, that would be very helpful, like adding an extra hit onto any charge attack you want. But I don't see how we would be able to do it unless the Shot is now assigned to a different button.
Yeah, it's that. Charge Shot can be used to cancel combos, and it can also induce a chain explosion if enemies are destroyed with it.

And a nice observation on Banshee's video indeed. Hopefully if the schedule is unchanged, the official HD videos should be up at Youtube in about less than 3 hours from now ^_^
I guess they could make it so you just hit T after the regular charge attack, but that would be difficult to avoid on charge attacks that require multiple taps (like Tallgeese's C3)

So I can see this taking some getting used to for people who just mash buttons, they'll be canceling all their charge attacks prematurely and losing a lot of damage potential.

This might be really good for charge attacks that have a long startup animation, it could make them a lot safer on the draw if you can cancel the animation into an immediate shot that would stun the enemy.
Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:30 am.
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Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:15 am
Maybe we can somehow cancel our combo with a Charge 1 shot now?

If you look at Banshee's gameplay video, you can see that it uses a regular Shot attack at many points during its combo after a different charge. At first I thought they just put the same shot on the end of multiple attacks, but now I'm thinking it was canceling its combo WITH a Charge 1.

If that's the case, that would be very helpful, like adding an extra hit onto any charge attack you want. But I don't see how we would be able to do it unless the Shot is now assigned to a different button.
So it's Hokuto Musou now?

The fact it took 4 games to think of holding down the button though is kind of a slap in the face. Only because of the logical conclusion of that function being there at all.

Though the amount of seed stuff being added is definitely putting me off from the game on top of not being developed by Omega Force. Really gonna have to see more to be interested at this point as I'm hoping to avoid how much of a waste of money Shin Hokuto Musou was.
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HOly carp, Ididin't think they would add so much GS to this game. I'm really happy they did, but Icn see why other fans might not be..

I just hope we get englissh voices...and a narrator...
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:40 am
HOly carp, Ididin't think they would add so much GS to this game. I'm really happy they did, but Icn see why other fans might not be..

I just hope we get englissh voices...and a narrator...


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Yeah, even CCA and 00 didn't get this kind of royal treatment.

I can just imagine when they reboot the series on the PS4 it will just be Gundam Seed Musou
Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:49 am.
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Well at least the advantage GW can have over EXVS is that it's more probable to be have a complete set playable.

EXVS only have Forbidden & Gaia playable with the remaining of the trio being assist-only to the respective playable, GW allows you to individually use each of the Druggies & Extendeds.
EXVS only have 00, Cherudim & Arios for their second season roster, while GW has Seravee which completes the second season Gundam Meisters.

But frankly it's still not fully founded yet though until they fully confirm Blitz Gundam, as well as adding Sandrock & Altron Gundams for just about the time... :mellow:
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:45 am
I can just imagine when they reboot the series on the PS4 it will just be Gundam Seed Musou
Haha while Seed is my favorite series I'm a fan of all things Gundam ......
except for G Gundam haha even then I'd accept some of the suits from the show as Musou worthy .... only a few.

But yeah the reason why I love the Gundam Musou games is the wide net of different series they cover or at least have a few representatives.

Now with Koei making these Orochi games that house 130+ characters I thinks its safe to say they can still fit more characters in.

While I'm thankful for all the Seed/Destiny characters I do wish for more from other series even ones that have no representatives yet.

Here's my pilot wishlist:

Mobile Suit Gundam: Sayla Mass and Garma Zabi. Even though both didn't have much combat time (Sayla had a decent amount) they nevertheless piloted mobile suits and thats a good enough reason to have them). But I like both characters and would welcome any dialogue they'd bring into the game.

Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam: Katz Kobayashi. Love him or hate him I think he deserves to be in the game.

Gundam ZZ: Mashymre Cello and Chara Soon. From the information already given it seems koei wants to do away with anything ZZ which is a shame since I finished watching it this year and really enjoyed it. The Gundam Musou series has a decent amount of pilots on the Argama/Judau's Gang side. It would be nice to include more Axis pilots like Mashymre and Chara ... especially Chara because of her whacky personality.

Gundam 0083 Stardust Memory: Cima Garahau

Oh my goodness where to start. Basically besides Rau le Creuset Cima is one of my most desired pilots. She is definitely one of the best villains in the Gundam franchise period. Her personality and her sense of style makes her stand out like a sore thumb. Plus she has the Gerbera Tetra which would be an interesting suit to play with in a Musou game.

MS 8th Team: Shiro Amada, Aina Saharin and Ginias Saharin.

I recently finished MS 08th Team and really enjoyed it. I'm skeptical about Koei putting anyone from the OVA but if they did those are the 3 I'd want. Shiro because he's the main character, Aina because of her Relationship with Shiro and lastly Ginias because the Apsalus III would fit in with this push for Mobile Armour combat that SGM offers.

I could go on forever but I'll finish this round off wishes with some Wing Characters:

Quatre Raberba Winner

Quatre is one of my favorites from Wing. His dialogue would be very welcomed in battle and definitely being able to use Sandrock would be awesome.

Chang Wufei

I'm gonna be honest I despise Wufei with a passion. He is my least favorite character in the Wing Saga. But given his position I think its necessary to include him to round off the complete 5. Plus sometimes you gotta have your least favorite so it will be much more fulfilling when you blow him up into a million pieces! :D Plus if they ever cover Endless Waltz he'll definitely need to be in there.

Lucrezia Noin

She's one of my favorite female Gundam characters. Her relationship with Zechs/Milliardo was one of the more interesting parts of the Wing Saga and would be welcomed into a Musou game.

Lady Une

I know I'd get stoned if I forget to mention her haha kidding aside I like the many faces of her character and she'd be a welcomed addition.

I have loads more I could bring up but I don't want to hog the screen.

I haven't mentioned anyone yet from After War Gundam X because I am currently watching it.



Edited by Rau le Musou, Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:51 am.
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Lady Une DID pilot the Wing Gundam with Trieze in the Tallgeese 2. Since Trieze is already in, that would be good enough reason to bring Une as well, and a great excuse to get the original Wing Gundam in the game

I really hope we have unique dialogue this time. No more random lines from the shows, I want some real interaction.
Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:54 am.
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So the Druggies and the Extended are in! Great, it means they're really going to try and make the SEED/Destiny Official Mode worthy of being the only AU Official Mode this time around.

For Wing I would really love having playable Noin.
Edited by SazukeEX, Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:00 am.
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Rau le Musou
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:53 am
Lady Une DID pilot the Wing Gundam with Trieze in the Tallgeese 2. Since Trieze is already in, that would be good enough reason to bring Une as well, and a great excuse to get the original Wing Gundam in the game

I really hope we have unique dialogue this time. No more random lines from the shows, I want some real interaction.
Very true that's why I mentioned her in the pilot wishlist. At first I thought she'd just be a great command character but at the last minute I recalled the times where she was a pilot.

To have all 5 Gundam Pilots and the 4 major representatives of OZ .... that would put a big smile on my face. :)

I'm with you on the dialogue. It's good to hear some fan favorites but in the unofficial/original modes it would be good to see some new crossover interaction.
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Definitely need more interaction between the characters in original mode. It actually makes me laugh when the characters quotes line up and sound like something coherent. I double take almost every time.
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And the HQ videos are now up in Youtube at 17:00 Japan time as usual! :lol:

Unicorn Gundam 02 Banshee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oNcauZujKU
Legend Gundam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z27WOqCoss
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O.o Holy moly .... Legend .... it's funnel attacks is a thing of beauty.

I'm glad the air battle from Episode 5 of Unicorn made it into the game. It's gonna be extremely fun to play.
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You can see Banshee's C1 cancels at 0:07, 0:11, and 0:17
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:02 am
And the HQ videos are now up in Youtube at 17:00 Japan time as usual! :lol:

Unicorn Gundam 02 Banshee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oNcauZujKU
Legend Gundam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z27WOqCoss
Awsome! But hearing the background music in those videos....
reminds me that we will probably miss out on the official soundtrack, just like last-time. And here I was hoping for the impulse theme.. link

If it releases in the west, then it will,probably, have the same horrible over-used remixs, again.. :facepalm:
Black Lion
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:45 am
Yuqi
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:40 am
HOly carp, Ididin't think they would add so much GS to this game. I'm really happy they did, but Icn see why other fans might not be..

I just hope we get englissh voices...and a narrator...


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Yeah, even CCA and 00 didn't get this kind of royal treatment.

I can just imagine when they reboot the series on the PS4 it will just be Gundam Seed Musou
I doubt it, by then: the legend of the seed fandom, will face a calamity,and despite their strike against the decisions made by big companies, based on pure impulse; this gundam series too..will fall into the abyss. :whistle:
Edited by Yuqi, Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:33 am.
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Druggie Trio? Sweeeeeeeeeeeet.
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Well, I'm back with my usual crap. So here we go again: I think there shouldn't even be a class 3, just 1 or 2. It hardly seems fair that the Dom, Zaku II, Gouf (both variants), Geara Doga/Zulu/Et Al should be nerfed to hell and back compared to the "main suits." I mean, why the hell is my current pilot using the Doga's beam hawk instead of it's beam saber? It makes no sense!

As far as what is already in I'm most excited about Shani and his Forbidden gundam.
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I'm looking forward to seeing more Command/Operator Characters from Seed/Destiny like Muruta Azrael for the Blue Cosmos Trio and Gilbert Durandal ... because he's awesome haha.

Durandal was my favorite character in Seed Destiny and I'd love to hear his banter with the other Zaft pilots.

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Still super happy the druggies and extendeds are confirmed but anybody got predictions on what videos were getting next? Also were there any pics of the units revealed?
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:21 am
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:02 am
And the HQ videos are now up in Youtube at 17:00 Japan time as usual! :lol:

Unicorn Gundam 02 Banshee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oNcauZujKU
Legend Gundam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z27WOqCoss
Awsome! But hearing the background music in those videos....
reminds me that we will probably miss out on the official soundtrack, just like last-time. And here I was hoping for the impulse theme.. link

If it releases in the west, then it will,probably, have the same horrible over-used remixs, again.. :facepalm:
Well back then when they published gameplay videos for GW3, they also showcased the original BGMs, and it wasn't until the game was out that we could hear the likes of POWER and UNICORN in the game. :whistle:



So let's see, the remaining SEED Gundams they haven't officially revealed yet (Famitsu article or Official site page) would be Duel, Buster, Blitz, Justice, Providence.. and perhaps Saviour.
Non-Gundams include the custom ZAKU Warriors/Phantoms, CGUE and perhaps LaGOWE, but we still haven't even got more of the essential Unicorn adds like Delta Plus, Shamblo and perhaps Jesta.. not to also mention the possible Non-Official additions...
I wonder if they could make it all in just 2 more batches. :/

But speaking of which, I heard that certain crossover Warriors that's already out in September could have a sudden weekly batch interval in its final 4 weeks. I wonder if this could follow suit as well, hmm
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This batch did give us 6 suits, so it's not like they couldn't just do 3 more big batches every other week. One more for the few Seed stragglers, one more of the Unicorn stragglers, and then one more for whatever padding anything else gets, be it Zeta or some of the AUs.
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If they keep a bi-weekly interval until the end, we'll only have 2 more possible batches: 27-28 Nov and 11-12 Dec, the latter being the final week before release. Either they shorten the interval, or make these last batches much bigger than the current one if they still want to keep it up.


Anyway my Twitter radar seems to be picking something up.... It's A Scan!!! :woot:
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Seems like Strike Freedom's Charge Shot turns out to be firing the Callidus alright
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For Seed/Destiny maybe Mu la Flaga. It would be cool to see the Akatsuki Gundam in action. As for Unicorn I think Full Frontal will be drawing near soon. Hopefully they will surprise us with Riddhe Marcenas soon.

Now since Koei has updated us with the Druggies (lol) and extendeds there's only a few possible pilot choices left:

SEED

Rau Le Creuset (most likely)
Nicol Amalfi (Needs to be in to spark the conflict)
Rusty Mackenzie (if Heliopolis is present in the game)
Miguel Aiman (same as above)
Andrew Waltfeld (With the Gaia announced I think he's a sure thing)
Aisha (if Andy gets in then she could follow unless Koei doesn't want to focus on that Desert chapter).
Mayura Labatt (unlikely but if the Astray makes it in then she could be a possibility)
Asagi Caldwell (same as above)
Juri Wu Nien (same as above)
Ledonir Kisaka (if they want to expand Cagalli's story)
Martin DaCosta (like Aisha only if Andy makes it will Martin be a possible choice)

Destiny

Heine Westenfluss (As a member of FAITH it would good have him sorte with Athrun, Shinn and Ray. Plus since Stella is in .... well cough cough)

Those are the ones I can think off the top of my head. If anyone has more possible pilots that I forgot to mention please post your list!

EDIT: *Seen the scan* Ho ho very nice indeed! I'm getting pumped to play it. Come on December 19th!
Edited by Rau le Musou, Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:35 pm.
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I guess it is inevitable that Quatre and Wufei will be joining as they're the only two characters missing from Wing now. But c'mon Koei, G Gundam needs some representation/love.

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