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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,274 Views)
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tyrox9
Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:46 pm
What i was saying was that Wufei and Quatre would prolly be added in as main roster, not dlc, when they are added in.

I would have said the same thing about the Gundam Meisters......until they ended up being DLC themselves.

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but after thinking back on it, merc and vay, if added, would be class 2's most likely. so actually, if there was a dlc wing thing, maybe Hydra.


With suits like Hamrabi being Class 1, both Merc and Vay could easily be Class 1 as well. That being said, they would have a higher possibility of being dlc than Hydra would currently. This is mainly because Hydra is only from the manga, and DWG has yet to cross that line and add manga only units. We haven't even seen Astray or Crossbone yet. In Astray's case, that could even be explained away by their brief anime shorts if it is added.
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I'm pretty sure we will never see the M and V. There are so many other suits that are more popular that would be DLC first. If they were going the pilotless DLC route, we'd probably see the likes of Gundam Unicorn Pheonix, Hi-Nu, Nightingale, Talgeese 1, GP03 or Neue Ziel first
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:00 am
I'm pretty sure we will never see the M and V. There are so many other suits that are more popular that would be DLC first. If they were going the pilotless DLC route, we'd probably see the likes of Gundam Unicorn Pheonix, Hi-Nu, Nightingale, Talgeese 1, GP03 or Neue Ziel first
Pretty much. Even if Wufei and Quatre made it in, there are still other Wing suits that would be more of a priority than either Merc or Vay, such as Tallgeese I. Then of course there's all the other pilotless suits you just outlined. That's not even mentioning the 00 movie suits or the EW suits.
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Let's not forget Astray. Being Seed related, and a side story manga, I think it has the best chances of being DLC out of all of them. I'm still holding out for Quatre and Wufei in the main game.
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:02 am
tyrox9
Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:46 pm
What i was saying was that Wufei and Quatre would prolly be added in as main roster, not dlc, when they are added in.

I would have said the same thing about the Gundam Meisters......until they ended up being DLC themselves.

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but after thinking back on it, merc and vay, if added, would be class 2's most likely. so actually, if there was a dlc wing thing, maybe Hydra.


With suits like Hamrabi being Class 1, both Merc and Vay could easily be Class 1 as well. That being said, they would have a higher possibility of being dlc than Hydra would currently. This is mainly because Hydra is only from the manga, and DWG has yet to cross that line and add manga only units. We haven't even seen Astray or Crossbone yet. In Astray's case, that could even be explained away by their brief anime shorts if it is added.
Yeeeah. but that game included all the gundam meisters (bar the MC) together. had the whole set. and that was also the first game to include 00. Wing has been in since GW1, and has had partial additions already. jsut would feel.... unorganized to have two of them dlc while the rest are normal.

and powerwise, yes the merc and Vay are class 1-able. though also remember units like Zeong, hambrabi, and turn X have been class 2 before. Im referring to the fact that it jsut doesn't seem possible to make a class 1 moveset for those two. they are REALLY limited in attacks. I mean, Merc has a bit more to it with that beam saber, and the PD's could make some moves, in a bit of a stretch. but look at vay. it literally only has a beam cannon for a weapon.
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Yeeeah. but that game included all the gundam meisters (bar the MC) together. had the whole set. and that was also the first game to include 00. Wing has been in since GW1, and has had partial additions already. jsut would feel.... unorganized to have two of them dlc while the rest are normal.
and all the Gundam Meisters except Setsuna were locked and couldn't be used unless you bought the DLC. Really, there is nothing to go against DLC adds for series that are already in the game and have been around for a while. The only example we have to draw from is DWG 3. That has been the only game to do DLC suits thus far.

It felt unorganized to have Marida, Graham, and the meisters as dlc to begin with. Heck they never even appear in random missions and there suits are never used by AI. I really don't see how Wing adds would be any different in this regard. Leaving characters and suits out of the finished product like this is bound to make it unorganized regardless of where the adds are coming from.

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and powerwise, yes the merc and Vay are class 1-able. though also remember units like Zeong, hambrabi, and turn X have been class 2 before. Im referring to the fact that it jsut doesn't seem possible to make a class 1 moveset for those two. they are REALLY limited in attacks. I mean, Merc has a bit more to it with that beam saber, and the PD's could make some moves, in a bit of a stretch. but look at vay. it literally only has a beam cannon for a weapon.


If they were merely class 2 material to begin with, why would would you say that they should be dlc to begin with? Unless your intent was to say that they should be Class 2 dlc. In that case, who is going to want to spend money on class 2 suits? Now sure, I bet some people would, but not nearly as many as a Class 1 suit, especially when the class 2s in question are merely Merc and Vay.

Plus i'm sure they could figure out something for Merc and Vay. Just look at the bizarre move set that class 1 Guncannon has. :wacko:
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:44 am
though also remember units like Zeong, hambrabi, and turn X have been class 2 before.
So Zeong is confirmed class 1 now?
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If we're going back to space and ground divides again, Zeong probably wont be.
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:42 am
tyrox9
Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:44 am
Yeeeah. but that game included all the gundam meisters (bar the MC) together. had the whole set. and that was also the first game to include 00. Wing has been in since GW1, and has had partial additions already. jsut would feel.... unorganized to have two of them dlc while the rest are normal.
and all the Gundam Meisters except Setsuna were locked and couldn't be used unless you bought the DLC. Really, there is nothing to go against DLC adds for series that are already in the game and have been around for a while. The only example we have to draw from is DWG 3. That has been the only game to do DLC suits thus far.

It felt unorganized to have Marida, Graham, and the meisters as dlc to begin with. Heck they never even appear in random missions and there suits are never used by AI. I really don't see how Wing adds would be any different in this regard. Leaving characters and suits out of the finished product like this is bound to make it unorganized regardless of where the adds are coming from.

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and powerwise, yes the merc and Vay are class 1-able. though also remember units like Zeong, hambrabi, and turn X have been class 2 before. Im referring to the fact that it jsut doesn't seem possible to make a class 1 moveset for those two. they are REALLY limited in attacks. I mean, Merc has a bit more to it with that beam saber, and the PD's could make some moves, in a bit of a stretch. but look at vay. it literally only has a beam cannon for a weapon.


If they were merely class 2 material to begin with, why would would you say that they should be dlc to begin with? Unless your intent was to say that they should be Class 2 dlc. In that case, who is going to want to spend money on class 2 suits? Now sure, I bet some people would, but not nearly as many as a Class 1 suit, especially when the class 2s in question are merely Merc and Vay.

Plus i'm sure they could figure out something for Merc and Vay. Just look at the bizarre move set that class 1 Guncannon has. :wacko:
unicorn was handled sloppily by just being in the game. and GW3 was prolly the worst game in the series. lets not follow its example. lets keep the status quos of character together, not seperated.

and when i said merc and vay should be dlc, i didn't think that they prolly class 2's by design, and i retracted the statement inf avor for the like sof hydra... maaaaybe Talgeese 3, but id think that be normal too.

lol. guncannon is awesome and all... but kind of a joke suit... not really the kind of moveset you wanna aspire to having.
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I just hope if there are more DLC unlock characters that they get more treatment this time round. I like the movesets and all but for the price it would have been nice if they essentially were more than just movesets... perhaps some more character interaction locked into the disc or something because the DLC prices are not cheap for the series.
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I definitely hope the dlc characters actually have better integration into the game than the last game got. It drove me nuts not being able to use the suits regular pilot for story where, in my opinion, the funnest missions were and that they weren't part of the galleries either.
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:49 am
unicorn was handled sloppily by just being in the game. and GW3 was prolly the worst game in the series. lets not follow its example. lets keep the status quos of character together, not seperated.


DWG 3 was simply terrible. I just hope that the dlc they do for Shin doesn't mess things up as badly as 3.

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and when i said merc and vay should be dlc, i didn't think that they prolly class 2's by design, and i retracted the statement inf avor for the like sof hydra... maaaaybe Talgeese 3, but id think that be normal too.


Fair enough.

Tallgeese 3 would be a thing if they decided to do other EW suits as DLC. It's doubtful that Tallgeese 3 would be added in and none of the other EW variants would though.

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lol. guncannon is awesome and all... but kind of a joke suit... not really the kind of moveset you wanna aspire to having.


But Vay could use its FISTS!! :sly:

Couldn't resist. Vay would admittedly be a hard moveset to make. Really, I doubt out of all the Wing suits out there that they would be dlc. They are far more likely just to be normal adds if they ever intended to do a official mode for Wing.
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I totally agree about DLC characters should be incorporated more into the random missions as allies/enemies. :yes:

Now that I think about it, maybe it could be because they would have no idea how to incorporate them with the MS randomization you unlock during your playthrough (Like Amuro using Sazabi, then eventually using the likes of Zakutank),
but personally I would rather abolish these randomizations so that everyone including DLC characters could appear with their signature MS, then again the randomization gets more and more absurd the farther you've progressed.. >.>
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I think they could do EW without changing the Gundams to their EW versions.. i mean, technically you couldn't just do alternate skins or something because the units are... differentish. Really, only Deathscythe could have it's EW form and do the same stuff. Just add the wing boys, Taurus with Noin, T3 for Zechs, some Serpents, and boom. have everything you need for EW.
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We dont need to double up on Wing. Other series need a lot more padding than Wing right now.
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:29 pm
We dont need to double up on Wing. Other series need a lot more padding than Wing right now.
I'll have a Gold Sumo, with a side of Leopard, and Airmaster.... aaaaand a Diet Shadow... i gotta watch my figure.
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:29 pm
We dont need to double up on Wing. Other series need a lot more padding than Wing right now.
I'll have a Gold Sumo, with a side of Leopard, and Airmaster.... aaaaand a Diet Shadow... i gotta watch my figure.
Oh! Don't forget the Geara Doga platter, complete with a good quality blue one. Also a Hamma Hamma sandwich with some Quin Mantha on the side.
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Im sure Quin/Queen Mantha will return, and prolly playable this time around since CCA gonna be an OM.
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Hamma Hamma is a no go. Anything ZZ is a no go. I also wouldn't hold your breath on the Custom Geara Doga being anything other than class 1, Rezin is super insignificant and super unpopular.
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Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:24 am
Hamma Hamma is a no go. Anything ZZ is a no go. I also wouldn't hold your breath on the Custom Geara Doga being anything other than class 1, Rezin is super insignificant and super unpopular.
oooh boy. now you gone and done it. flames burning in the east.

but yeah, if there's anything to hold your breath on, its a major ZZ addition.
Edited by tyrox9, Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:30 am.
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They'll probably add Quess' mobile armour from Char's Counterattack if it's true that she's in the game.
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Hamma Hamma is a no go. Anything ZZ is a no go. I also wouldn't hold your breath on the Custom Geara Doga being anything other than class 1, Rezin is super insignificant and super unpopular.
oooh boy. now you gone and done it. flames burning in the east.

but yeah, if there's anything to hold your breath on, its a major ZZ addition.
I think she has a good chance actually, Koei needs to pad both sides of the CCA conflict, and who the hell are they going to add for Neo Zeon? Nanai? She is even less significant that Rezin to your standard issue KW user, or anyone else for that matter.
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Hamma Hamma is a no go. Anything ZZ is a no go. I also wouldn't hold your breath on the Custom Geara Doga being anything other than class 1, Rezin is super insignificant and super unpopular.
oooh boy. now you gone and done it. flames burning in the east.

but yeah, if there's anything to hold your breath on, its a major ZZ addition.
I think she has a good chance actually, Koei needs to pad both sides of the CCA conflict, and who the hell are they going to add? Nanai? She is even less significant that Rezin to your standard issue KW user, or anyone else for that matter.
Feddies: *Amuro, The ultimate badass.
*Chan, the girlfriend.
*gyyyyerrr... Anne Hathaway, the reason we cant have nice things.

neo Zeeks: *Char, Super Ace extraordinaire
*Quess: The obligatory weird girl
* Gyunei: the jelly not boyfriend.

just keep that status quo and it seem pretty even for CCA.
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Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:24 am
Hamma Hamma is a no go. Anything ZZ is a no go. I also wouldn't hold your breath on the Custom Geara Doga being anything other than class 1, Rezin is super insignificant and super unpopular.
oooh boy. now you gone and done it. flames burning in the east.

but yeah, if there's anything to hold your breath on, its a major ZZ addition.
I think she has a good chance actually, Koei needs to pad both sides of the CCA conflict, and who the hell are they going to add? Nanai? She is even less significant that Rezin to your standard issue KW user, or anyone else for that matter.
Feddies: *Amuro, The ultimate badass.
*Chan, the girlfriend.
*gyyyyerrr... Anne Hathaway, the reason we cant have nice things.

neo Zeeks: *Char, Super Ace extraordinaire
*Quess: The obligatory weird girl
* Gyunei: the jelly not boyfriend.

just keep that status quo and it seem pretty even for CCA.
I got a feeling that we need one more pilot, each.

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Kayra Su, Second Banana and Pasta/Salad Aficionado (vague reference, Astonaige promises to make her favorite pasta in the english dub, but says salad in DWG2)


Zeeks:

Rezin Schnyder: Blue Striker/Badass Normal Extraordinaire

Edit: Did I just kill this topic? Cool...
Edited by Ma Su, Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:30 am.
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Sooo today maybe the day that another MS's aside from SEED will be add,
Or maybe it's a day without any information :lol:

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