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| Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn] | |
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| Yuqi | Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:37 pm Post #1926 |
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Han's Unifier
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Ewww, I hope she does get cut. She never even fought in a MS... |
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| Abyss4 | Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:39 pm Post #1927 |
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She kept the seat warm. I don't think that counts though. |
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| tyrox9 | Mon Dec 2, 2013 3:24 pm Post #1928 |
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to Lacus' credit... she steered the hell out of Infinite Justice. |
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| SazukeEX | Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:26 pm Post #1929 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Don't see Lacus getting cut. Even though she's a super hypocrite and mary sue who shouldn't be able to pilot a mecha in battles she's still very popular and Koei cannot really afford outraging her fans or the Lacus/Kira fans. Even in Destiny Kira/Lacus is the most popular pairing, than it's Shinn/Lunamaria and Athrun/Cagalli. With Cagalli's addition and no cuts Koei will have hit all 3 of those massive fanbases which can potentially be very profitable. Edited by SazukeEX, Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:28 pm.
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| Zeik Liberated | Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:58 pm Post #1930 |
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Lacus needs her Pink Turn A they joked about in DWG2 as a gag MS |
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| SazukeEX | Mon Dec 2, 2013 6:28 pm Post #1931 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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If they go all out like that than we need Meer and her Pink Live Concert ZAKU Warrior too.
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| Joshelplex | Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:20 pm Post #1932 |
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The Nightmare of Winnipeg
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Do we even know how Official Mode is being handled this time? Are we just using the main character again, or will we swap characters to follow the full story like in DW7/8? That seems like it would be better, at least to me. |
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| Re4_Wesker | Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:52 pm Post #1933 |
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Antagonist?
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I think the better question is it really worth buying just for those few adds from a full Gundam show. For me, the only 3 adds i'm happy about are Rau, Mu, and Banshee. that's 3 characters and 3-4 suits out of the massive number of adds this game has. Meanwhile, DWG 3 had a lot of adds I was looking forward to. Unicorn, Sinanju, Tallgeese II, Deathscythe, Gundam double X, Class 1 Turn X, GPO1 and 2, and Knight Gundam. Heck, I was even happy with the addition of Kapool and Sochie. I would have written this game off by now if it weren't for the fact that gameplay actually looks worth my while this time, and if DWG 3 didn't mess that up so severely to begin with, this game may have not even been on my radar. So no, I personally don't agree with their choice to complete Cosmic Era and leave everyone else with little to nothing. Furthermore, I don't think someone needs help because they simply can't find any characters from Cosmic Era that they like enough to justify buying an entire game. Edited by Re4_Wesker, Mon Dec 2, 2013 9:38 pm.
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| SazukeEX | Mon Dec 2, 2013 9:05 pm Post #1934 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Seems like we'll be swapping characters due to the cutscnes we've seen... Or they may do it like DW8 where every stage you can choose a character. Though I'm betting that each stage in Official Mode will require you to play as a certain character. Like Shinn in the stage where the Freedom appears at the end to stop the fighting. Kinda funny that Koei showcased stuff like that and intentionally left the Savior out while not confirming if it's in the game or not. Really has me wondering on whether it'll be included or not. Such teases. - Well they chose it because it makes financial sense to highlight Unicorn and SEED/Destiny due to Episode 7 eventually coming out and the HD Remasters. Capitalizing on hype at its height is very smart financial maneuvering as that's what's on fans minds atm. Though I'm sure they will get a lot of hate if Quatre/Sandrock Kai, Wufei/Altron, and Spiegel Gundam aren't in the game. Though if they aren't I have no doubt they'll be DLC even if they would anger fans a great deal. Edited by SazukeEX, Mon Dec 2, 2013 9:08 pm.
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| NDestiny | Mon Dec 2, 2013 9:41 pm Post #1935 |
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Tiger General
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There's one thing I can't help to notice but Domon said this in the latest trailer: "Ore no kono te ga hikatte unaru! Omae wo taose to kagayaki sakebu!" Isn't that supposed to be the quote for Shining Gundam? Didn't watch G Gundam yet but I saw so many video of Domon using different Hissatsu Waza, and it remind me that the quote of Shining Finger and God Finger are different. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Mon Dec 2, 2013 9:43 pm Post #1936 |
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Of course it's not worth it for the character roster increase. But that combined with the whole previous cast been playable, gameplay improvements, a new class of Units (MA) and a revamped official mode that covers 6 shows is imo. If your only cares are about the new shiny units/characters and you have no interest in any of the old cast then fair, I can see where your coming from but it's not like your staved for choice in this game as is. Everyone isn't left with little to nothing they have everything they had in the previous games and as they have shown with Nu and Strike Freedom they have even improved a few. |
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| Re4_Wesker | Mon Dec 2, 2013 11:12 pm Post #1937 |
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Antagonist?
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For those who like the new additions of course it would be worth it in their opinion. If there isn't enough here to catch my attention, why should I even buy the new game? I could easily just go back to DWG 2 or 3 and just play as the characters and suits I want to play as to begin with. As I said before, the gameplay instance is only a big deal because DWG 3 was just that bad at it and like I said, this is one of the reasons why i'm keeping an eye on this one to begin with. As for MA's being playable, i'm not really sure how much that even matters. Like sure, i'll be happy to play Quin Mantha, but I for one was never particularly interested in MA's being playable. As for Official mode, it covers 4.5 shows and one movie. It builds on MSG, maybe builds on Zeta, cuts out ZZ, likely rehashes DWG 2's CCA story (there isn't really much you can add to that story), gives us Seed/Destiny and gives us a chunk of Unicorn. In Unicorn's case they would have been better off just giving us Stardust as a official mode and given us Banshee as a normal add for Unicorn.
For a new player this would be true. All of this would seem new to them and there would be tons to play with and mess around with. This will more so be an issue to people who have followed the series from the start who were looking forward to seeing what characters the next game would bring them. That being said, i'm not just following this game because of the new adds. I've already said that its the gameplay that's kept me interested at this point. All of this I have said will be true with other Gundam fans out there. For you guys who like CE? Knock yourselves out. This is clearly your guys game and definitely worth it. Those who were waiting for adds for other series however may ultimately come out of this being conflicted or disappointed in this area. I guess they'll just have to wait for the next game.....or just pick up the latest Gundam Vs. game . I for one am still hoping they will surprise us with a few adds here and there for other series but they have yet to show us anything outside of Unicorn and CE.......except Beargguy. The fact that this is all that we've seen outside of these series frankly comes across as insulting.
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| bigmacthecaveman | Tue Dec 3, 2013 12:08 am Post #1938 |
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Interesting points made by everyone so far. Personally I can't wait for this even with the CE and Unicorn focus I enjoy this series enough to be just glad to get another installment. But I agree there are ms and pilots I would rather have like the Shuffle alliance with allenby and noble plus the shadow/spiegal for good measure. Getting an add for series which have only one or two would also be nice. Maybe finish the wing boys too. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Tue Dec 3, 2013 12:47 am Post #1939 |
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But then you don't get the few new characters you do like along with all the upgrades and improvements and new levels that come with a new game.
Not really you don't have to be a new player to enjoy using a older MS. I spent way more time using characters from DWG1 and 2 in in 3 because the vast majority of the new adds didn't really pull me (Knight, Ribbons and DLC units) in but I already had a solid cast to pick from, some improved from 2 and new missions to play though and that was enough for me. It's a new game with new missions, new gameplay options, new characters to play as and all the old ones returning and if thats not enough for someone then fair but I don't agree them or their complaining. |
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| Re4_Wesker | Tue Dec 3, 2013 1:05 am Post #1940 |
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Antagonist?
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And that's ultimately what i'm trying to weigh here. Is it really worth getting just for those few characters I do want? I'm looking for more here and i'm just not seeing it yet. I'm hoping for some solid adds or some reasonable dlc. Other than that, i'll sit back for a bit and see what other peoples impressions are of the game before I choose wether I want to pick it up myself. I'd like to see more concrete proof that the gameplay has indeed improved before I consider getting this. After all, DWG 3 looked amazing and turned out to be pretty bad.
Its not so much about having to be a new player to enjoy older MS but more so if there is enough in the game that's new to justify buying an updated version of the game. Otherwise I could just go back to the older games to play those mobile suits. New players don't have the previous games already.
*shrug* go enjoy your game then. I'm just not sold on this yet. They've clearly made a serious effort to attract specific parts of the fanbase and they think that whats already in there from previous will bring the rest back. Maybe it will, maybe it won't but all I can really tell you is that I for one am not convinced on this game yet. Edited by Re4_Wesker, Tue Dec 3, 2013 1:06 am.
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| Wild Lion | Tue Dec 3, 2013 1:19 am Post #1941 |
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Maybe BlackKite can inform us how the Japanese fans are feeling about the game so far? |
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| BlackKite | Tue Dec 3, 2013 2:46 am Post #1942 |
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長宗我部菜々
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It's going to be somewhere between DW7 & FotNS2. Mostly you'll be using the main character and his Gundam, but at some points in the story you'll be able to swap with other characters & MS. Nah, he already have that Shining quote ever since GW2, even without Shining Gundam itself appearing here all the time. Right, so where should I start from.. If I'm totaling the reception average, it'd be somewhere between lukewarm and acceptable. For those who get hyped, some people at Twitter are very excited to see that the Druggies & Extendeds are appearing in the game, and Niconico watchers are impressed that Cagalli & Dearka are appearing with their voices, which had been a topic of concern for the last couple of years (in some past Gundam games, it's either the two of them not appearing at all, or them appearing but with a disturbing lack of voices) Of course though, not few people are also lamenting that the additions here are all only from CE & Unicorn. Some of the most wanted additions are Sandrock Kai, Altron, Spiegel, Dendrobium, Neue Ziel. For pilots with already existing MS: Wing Zero Custom, Exia, 00 Qan[T]. Some people also wanted to see Ali & Arche Gundam getting in too, but somehow it's quickly rebutted by other people because 00 already got a lot of additions in GW3 and they even already have a complete Gundam Meisters group, and with the recent additions completing SEED groups too (First 5 GAT-Xs, Druggies, Extendeds) they really should prioritize on completing the Wing Boys ASAP. But.. this is where I found out an unpleasant rumor. Wufei might not have the brightest chance of getting included.. in Warriors games.. because of his seiyuu. Currently his VA Ishino Ryuzo is being popular for voicing Chousokabe Motochika in Sengoku Basara, and then allegedly he made a blog post which directly compares between Warriors & Basara, where he said something like 'Basara has things that Musou don't have'. The blog post is said to have since been deleted by himself, but it already left an awkward impression from the Warriors fanbase. Now Ishino-san probably might not appear in any mainstream Warriors games (DWSWWO) anytime soon, but if it had to affect the chance of adding Wufei in GW too... First the SEED seiyuu fiasco (though it seems to have been solved now), and now this.... sigh
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| SazukeEX | Tue Dec 3, 2013 2:51 am Post #1943 |
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Well it's true that SB has things that aren't in the warriors games and vice versa. Hopefully this doesn't hurt Wufei's chances of getting in as I really want to use that sexy Altron and light people on fire.
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| BlackKite | Tue Dec 3, 2013 3:24 am Post #1944 |
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Just found a new 15-sec commercial video with Char as the voice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuUGfkbfdsA It's just so ironic that Graham & Char who both narrated the PVs also got new roles in SB4 respectively, but they're still appearing here because maybe they're still fine either way. If Ishino-san really had to be the one opening the can of worms... >.> Edited by BlackKite, Tue Dec 3, 2013 8:48 am.
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| tyrox9 | Tue Dec 3, 2013 3:33 am Post #1945 |
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lol. cant say I'll miss Wrooofei's presence. As hard as i might be on heero, its nothing compared to where i stand with that guy. plus, I kinda always felt Wufei was a bit more distant from the Wing Boys. usually pursuing his own morally flippy floppy goals. a 5th ranger. or he friend that the gang doesn't hang out with that much. Like if Heero and the Wing boys were the mainc ast of Seinfeld, Wufei would be Newman. |
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| Joshelplex | Tue Dec 3, 2013 4:26 am Post #1946 |
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Or he's just not a great character. Which is exactly what it is. He's the least popular by a massive margin for a reason. His saving grace is that his suits are popular. Him randomly posting about it may mean he was actually contact about it though. There'd be no reason for him to ever bring the two up unless he was somehow involved in both. Edited by Joshelplex, Tue Dec 3, 2013 4:30 am.
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| tyrox9 | Tue Dec 3, 2013 4:31 am Post #1947 |
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Maybe... hey, maybe if they put him in the game, he can have a special move. L3 + R3 + O. And when you hold those buttons down together, he will physically get out of his gundam, challenge his opponent to a sword fight, then the players automatically fails the mission xD. |
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| BlackKite | Tue Dec 3, 2013 4:51 am Post #1948 |
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If they want to do such a crazy thing like that, the very first thing they'll need to do is to have Master Asia come out from his MS and let him destroy enemy units with his own bare fists first.... just saying
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| Joshelplex | Tue Dec 3, 2013 4:58 am Post #1949 |
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His special ability should be to just switch sides and you be unable to understand why unless you read an obscure side manga. |
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| tyrox9 | Tue Dec 3, 2013 5:21 am Post #1950 |
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@BK: Lol. main Difference between M. Asia and Wroofei. When M Asia steps out of his Gundam, he wins. But then again, M Asia has already converted the entire gundam unvierse to his school... well, everyone except Heero, who wasn't a true warrior because he has nothing to fight for. @Josh: and zechs can do it 9 times! Edited by tyrox9, Tue Dec 3, 2013 5:25 am.
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. I for one am still hoping they will surprise us with a few adds here and there for other series but they have yet to show us anything outside of Unicorn and CE.......except Beargguy. The fact that this is all that we've seen outside of these series frankly comes across as insulting.



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