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| Joshelplex | Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:52 am Post #2276 |
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The Nightmare of Winnipeg
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I wonder what videos we get tomorrow. |
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| tyrox9 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 am Post #2277 |
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My bets are on Freedom and Duel. |
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| SazukeEX | Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:40 am Post #2278 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Rather XL stay away from DWG series. Wouldn't be great if DWG ended up being handed out like candy such as with DW/SW series that get a Base Game, XL, and Empires. |
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| Joshelplex | Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:45 am Post #2279 |
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Rather see Calamity, but Duel would be okay, if only to see how creative they got given it has basically no weapons. Need to see Chaos, Delta Plus somethin Fierce though |
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| Terrorcons45 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:10 am Post #2280 |
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I would welcome XL but would prefer Empires instead. The chance to be a merc pilot and play in different factions is a must. Also building relationships with your favourite characters and marrying them. O.k I know this is sounding like DW already. |
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| garnix | Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:16 am Post #2281 |
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An Extreme Legend would make sense. DW8XL added Lu Bu story mode. What about GW4XL adding Wing story mode for example ?
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| Joshelplex | Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:22 am Post #2282 |
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The Nightmare of Winnipeg
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A DWG4XL would be more likely to add in the final bits of Unicorn and probably turn Stardust into an OM, since those two things require the least amount of work. Wing would have to wait til a new entry since it requires as much effort as Seed and Seed Destiny did here. Koei made Lu Bu a story mode for DW8XL because a lot of the characters were already there. They didn't exactly put a lot of work in it, as evidence by the length, and the reusing of battles
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| tyrox9 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:40 am Post #2283 |
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After CE, AD seems like it would most likely be the next AU to get an OM. (deez Abbreviations ) And besides that, i think other UC's like SDM, 08th MST, etc. would be next on the list of OMs.I dont think we'll get a full on Wing OM, it couldn't maintain one. Factions were unfleshed, characters and story-lines were too scattered and unfluent, not many big battles and ace fights but mostly skirmishes. best we could hope for is maybe a better, expanded History Mission set once they get the full set of improtant characters in. perhaps one that isnt 3 stages done twice with only 2 different characters. And if the XL games are just expansions with some filling with characters like they seem to be described, sounds like the most likely additions would be a finished Unicorn. Edited by tyrox9, Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:59 am.
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| Zeik Liberated | Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:03 am Post #2284 |
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Wing would take less effort than 00, they pretty much have the main cast in as is other than non-combat people only needing Noin, Quatre and Wu Fei on that front (maybe Maganac Corps guys I guess) Need like 3-4 grunts (Leo, Taurus, Virgo, Maganac) that pretty much every faction use, with other adds been the five normal Gundams, Tallgeese, 2 missing upgraded Gundams and the Vayeate / Mercurius. There's plenty of large battles in Wing to Make a Official mode from, I mean the wing boys are known for blowing up large numbers of disposable Leo's as they take out bases... |
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| Terrorcons45 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:40 am Post #2285 |
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I saw that @Koinuma_p tweeted this Famitsu.com/news/201312/11044701.html. it has the SGM logo not sure if there is anything new. |
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| NDestiny | Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:27 pm Post #2286 |
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Tiger General
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The title says that it's a Talkshow that will happen in 2 days. |
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| Terrorcons45 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:42 pm Post #2287 |
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Hope there will be some new info revealed. Thank you. |
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| bigmacthecaveman | Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:15 pm Post #2288 |
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First Lieutenant
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I really hope this talk show does reveal some new stuff about the game but this close to release it may just be rehash stuff and in-depth discussions about new features and the revisions of the returning mechanics. Well I hope some of it goes in-depth. |
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| tyrox9 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:25 pm Post #2289 |
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Yeah, but I dont think they'll try and make Destroy Leos Destroy Leos Destroy Leos Destroy Leos fight zechs destroy leos destroy leos destroy leos destroy leos fight zechs a main selling point for a game. Not to mention, in order to do a good accurate OM, they would need to implement Operation Meteor units and Talgeese 1, which they prolly wont ever do since the differences between those units and their upgrade versions are too small to make a new moveset. Get the rest of the Wing boys in, and then add Leo. you'll have all the basic tools you need to make a decent Wing HM set. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:47 pm Post #2290 |
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Wing's got more variety than that and yes a fully playable wing story line from the start could be pretty cool and I don't think it would be alone if they continued at the pace set in this game where they finished 2 shows and half an OVA (+ more depending on how much extra they add to the UC trilogy). If they did Wing next game I'd see them also finishing Stardust memorys/F91/EW and ZZ in one game. of course with a full Official mode they would add the pre-upgrade machines and I'm sure they would be able to make the pre-upgrade suits work different, Wing itself would need a new move set no longer having access to the second rifle |
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| tyrox9 | Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:49 pm Post #2291 |
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Maybe so. but i dont see them bothering with such characters like Trant Clark, most generic villain since Crown, in a Wing OM. it would most likely just have the Wing boys and company (Zechs, treize, Noin, etc). And it seems like that would be similar to GM3's story mode of; generic battle, meet character, have a misunderstanding and fight, they join, generic battles, characters switch sides, fight them, etc. And if the Wing pre-upgrades were to be added ot would be almost certain they'd have to be Class 2s, jsut to have a major difference to their upgraded versions. and also just to make sense. I mean sure a SBR is 'different' from a TBR. But in the end they both do the same thing, shoot big beams. the SBR just shots a smaller beam than a TBR. And not to mention units like DS, HA, and SR, which differences include A second blade under the first blade of the same weapon, a second gatling on the same hand, and like a SMG I think. I jsut can't see it happening. Edited by tyrox9, Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm.
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| Toramaru | Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:58 pm Post #2292 |
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I'm here. I noticed Tyrox bashing Wing yet again and had to show up. First off, I'll give that SEED/Destiny has more to it overall than Wing, but Wing was a lot deeper than Tyrox gives it credit for. It could easily have a full Official Mode, and deserves one as much as say 00 does. As for the pre-upgraded MS, just look at the various UC "clones" that are used in the UC Official Modes: 3 Qubeleys(in GM1 & 2), 2 Gundam Mk-IIs, several palette-swapped Zakus, multiple Gelgoogs, etc. Even if they made the Operation Meteor Gundams only slight variants of the upgraded versions, it would be fine. I'll admit that there weren't many highly-skilled antagonist pilots in Wing, but there weren't in 00 either. SEED/Destiny was the only one that really had a "lot" of skilled pilots on both sides, mostly antagonists until later in SEED. I really am tired of Tyrox's incessant bashing of Gundam Wing. I mean, Without Gundam Wing "saving" Gundam after the fiasco/failure(in Japan) that was G Gundam, we might not have even had the likes of the awesome Gundam SEED or the pretty good Gundam 00. I am, however, capable of maintaining a peaceful approach to his nonsense. Anyway, I love that Koei have included SEED as an Official Mode series, and I'd love to see Wing and 00 get one. Don't think G ever will, as the series just wasn't overly successful in Japan, though it might even so. I won't say, however, about other series as I have almost no knowledge of them, such as: F91, Stardust Memory, etc. Well, That's pretty much all I wanted to say. -- Signed: ~Toramaru, "Hatred leads to nothing, and revenge brings only emptiness..." |
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| Zeik Liberated | Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:10 pm Post #2293 |
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You don't need people like Trant for a Wing Official mode, yes it would just be the wing boys and company but thats fine and it worked for the show. The story mode wouldn't be any more or less detailed then any other Official mode, I'm currently rewatching Wing and it has plenty of major battles from Lady Une's plan to destroy the Gundams, Antarctica, Quatre using the Wing Zero, the Sanc Kingdom's Collapse and the final parts in Space. When we have things like the Guncannon as class 1 and a number of colour changed clones there's no reason for the preupgrade units to be class 2's at all. |
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| Joshelplex | Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:42 pm Post #2294 |
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Wing didn't "save" Gundam at all, so shut up with that. He's also not bashing Wing, he's right, Wing has a terrible crop of suits to convert into an OM because they're all really similar, and almost all the conflicts were just against hordes of grunts.
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| SazukeEX | Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:26 pm Post #2295 |
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Well the upgrades for the original Gundams were basically "Let's add more Dakka Dakka to them!" and they did. Still would love them if Wing got an official mode but compared to 00 it has more interesting stuff to do due to 2 series and a movie. While Wing is 1 series and 1 movie. |
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| Osiris | Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:06 am Post #2296 |
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Really disappointed in the lack of news updates over the last month or so. Ah well. Still really hyped for the game and maybe we'll be able to guess from the credits scene on who any of the future DLC characters will be, just like the last version. |
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| Rakolai | Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:09 am Post #2297 |
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Deal with it.
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A Wing OM could work if they really wanted to. After all, there were certain points where the boys were fighting each other and we would really only need to convert Wing Zero, D-Scythe Hell, and Altron if it gets in. I mean, we already have the RX-78 and the Gundam Mk.II, with the latter barely having anything over the former from what I've seen, so it's not like it's never been done before. |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:24 am Post #2298 |
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Well when Wing gets blown up by Heero all of the original Gundams were gathered up so... They would need the original versions of them too. Not to mention the Vayeate, Mercurius, and stuff. |
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| Joshelplex | Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:29 am Post #2299 |
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The difference between Wing and 0079 and Zeta as far as Official Modes goes is that, y'know, those are the most popular. UC gets a free pass on everything for being quintessential Gundam. That's why MSG and Z have had the most content since inception. People will tolerate similar suits because it's UC. With AUs they wont. |
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| tyrox9 | Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:42 am Post #2300 |
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Yeah, Im not bashing Wing, and im not saying there is necessarily anything wrong with Wing for these reasons, just that it's specific style and storytelling isn't a very good basis for a story mode type video game. Thats why Wing never had a game that really focused on it's story, and just had Fighting games, and crossovers like SRW and SDG where the stories are spread and shared. When everything is so spread out and focus constantly jumps around from one thing and place to a completely different place and story, it gets harder to coherently tell the story as fluent as other series do.
Edited by tyrox9, Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:43 am.
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) And besides that, i think other UC's like SDM, 08th MST, etc. would be next on the list of OMs.

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