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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,244 Views)
Joshelplex
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Probably means we'll get a huge batch next week. There are about 12 more suits to show. That, or Koei actually incompetent.
Edited by Joshelplex, Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:39 am.
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Terrorcons45
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It's a bit late unless they release them on Tuesday since the game is out on Thursday and someone hopeful will get the game ealier.
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I don't want to reignite the flaming debate from before but it seems there's a misunderstanding about "successful" Gundams.

People think Wing revitalized the franchise but, actually, it bombed just as much as G Gundam... Here are the average ratings in Japan:

Z Gundam: 6.6%
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G Gundam: 4.1%
W Gundam: 4.3%

I don't live in Japan but I read a lot of forums about Japanese culture and apparently, Wing was really not popular in Japan. People tend to think it was because Wing had a lot of success in the US.

Back on topic, it seems pretty unlikely that we'll get any good reveal before the release. I'm a bit afraid frankly, because even the long PV didn't show very much, we mostly saw official mode.

I'm more interested in the Ultimate Mode and there wasn't any info about it.
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They don't release them on Tuesday. They release them on Thursday. You have to read the site. However, Dengeki caught another bit of news along with the videos. There will be a new scenario as an additional bonus. The "Who is the strongest of the Reds?" scenario will be available for free to those with a Gundam Perfect Games account. The scenario features the likes of Char Aznable and Johnny Ridden fighting for the title of strongest red guy.

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/771/771530/

As for the talk show, I will be going to that tomorrow. I've been to all of them, even the ones for the One Piece and Hokuto no Ken games, and there is almost never any new information given out. It's always the same old thing. They come out and say, "Hi." They show off a few characters and tell some behind the scenes stories from the development process. Then they do rock, paper, scissors with the audience and someone wins a free copy of the game - to be mailed out once the game comes out. They don't get it early or anything.
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Though Wing TV wasn't a super hit in the East the series is still very popular and has been a stable become a key stable for SRW games. Though the strangest thing is that while GS/GSD pushed UC stuff out of being the main focus of SRW games 00 wasn't able to force GS/GSD aside and take focus in SRW games. Thus far every game that has had 00 anything in it from Banpresto, GS/GSD has been in it as well with either Kira and/or Shinn playing major roles.
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ttora
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:25 am
Though Wing TV wasn't a super hit in the East the series is still very popular and has been a stable become a key stable for SRW games. Though the strangest thing is that while GS/GSD pushed UC stuff out of being the main focus of SRW games 00 wasn't able to force GS/GSD aside and take focus in SRW games. Thus far every game that has had 00 anything in it from Banpresto, GS/GSD has been in it as well with either Kira and/or Shinn playing major roles.
Well, just as you said about Gundam W, it's the same of G Gundam. But you can see that even though they appear in lot of SRW games, their storylines are non-existent most of the time. The characters appear (generaly Domon and Heero with a few other main characters) and that's it.

SRWZ2 had a bit of Gundam W storyline because it was the anniversary of the series.

It seems Gundam 00 follows the same route. SRWOE only featured a quite weak Setsuna and Mr Bushido. (And they didn't even put the opening as their BG music!!! :realangry: )
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Zeik Liberated
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Well there really not going all out this time it seems, disappointing. I can't be the only one who thinks it looks like Alpha is spitting at people during it's attacks XD
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terryralph
Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:15 am
They don't release them on Tuesday. They release them on Thursday. You have to read the site. However, Dengeki caught another bit of news along with the videos. There will be a new scenario as an additional bonus. The "Who is the strongest of the Reds?" scenario will be available for free to those with a Gundam Perfect Games account. The scenario features the likes of Char Aznable and Johnny Ridden fighting for the title of strongest red guy.

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/771/771530/

As for the talk show, I will be going to that tomorrow. I've been to all of them, even the ones for the One Piece and Hokuto no Ken games, and there is almost never any new information given out. It's always the same old thing. They come out and say, "Hi." They show off a few characters and tell some behind the scenes stories from the development process. Then they do rock, paper, scissors with the audience and someone wins a free copy of the game - to be mailed out once the game comes out. They don't get it early or anything.
You got me wrong. I meant reveal the clips on Tuesday before they become playable when they update the site on Thursday or Friday. It is pointless revealing another 2 videos before the game is launch, leaving 8 empty video slots and 2 coming soon slots. Thank for the site. This must mean that Johnny is playable also happy to see that Zeon battleship. I can guess that Zabi girl who Char killed will be the captain, does this mean we have 2 Zabis to choose from. Perharps at the talkshow they will show 10 characters ( new ones maybe after all they just add two more slots) and a new PV . Well hope so.
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Alpha Aziel - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQ3NzI1OTQ4.html
Blitz Gundam - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQ3NzI5NjMy.html

Now there's this speculation that they could be using this early release page to eventually showcase gameplay videos for upcoming DLC MS. If it's true, then once we get a gameplay video of WZC, we might be able to assume the total number of DLC MS there will be in the game... I guess.

Oh and about the new first-print incentive mission, it's only downloadable if you have a Bandai Namco ID (the same ID you use to watch early release videos straight from the source), since you'll have to generate the PSN code from Bandai-Namco's site.
Or as an alternative, you could get the Asian version and chances are the download code might be already a straight PSN code. At least this happened for Gundam Breaker though. But of course you're going to need an Asian account to input that code
Edited by BlackKite, Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:48 am.
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everyone and their mom must've been accessing Youku right now, i can't go in>.<

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bigmacthecaveman
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Yea just won't load for me, not necessarily a new problem for me though.
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ttora
Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:43 am
SazukeEX
Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:25 am
Though Wing TV wasn't a super hit in the East the series is still very popular and has been a stable become a key stable for SRW games. Though the strangest thing is that while GS/GSD pushed UC stuff out of being the main focus of SRW games 00 wasn't able to force GS/GSD aside and take focus in SRW games. Thus far every game that has had 00 anything in it from Banpresto, GS/GSD has been in it as well with either Kira and/or Shinn playing major roles.
Well, just as you said about Gundam W, it's the same of G Gundam. But you can see that even though they appear in lot of SRW games, their storylines are non-existent most of the time. The characters appear (generaly Domon and Heero with a few other main characters) and that's it.

SRWZ2 had a bit of Gundam W storyline because it was the anniversary of the series.

It seems Gundam 00 follows the same route. SRWOE only featured a quite weak Setsuna and Mr Bushido. (And they didn't even put the opening as their BG music!!! :realangry: )
Eh. Wing used to have its story in a ton of SRW games. Than they moved to EW where the story could be ended in after 3 or 5 stages and it was just them hanging around. Adding in back Wing TV has allowed it to be utilized far more and to mesh its plots together. Such as Wing and 00 having their entire plots merged together for awesome results.

Such as Graham's interactions with Heero who has no idea who this stalker even is and why he's Gundam obsessed.

Heero and Setsuna also have the best Gundam to Gundam talks ever when the other is feeling depressed.

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Yeah, I cannot see those vids as I don't have a Bamco account. So... I'll wait til it's uploaded on youtube or something.

Sweet, they're already uploaded to youku!
Edited by SazukeEX, Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:59 am.
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Jedah
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Hi Guys!
Do you think that there are any posibility of a Europe release???

I'm thinking of pre-order the Jap version, but if it'll release in Europe, I would prefer wait.
Thanks in advance
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Terrorcons45
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:21 am
Alpha Aziel - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQ3NzI1OTQ4.html
Blitz Gundam - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQ3NzI5NjMy.html

Now there's this speculation that they could be using this early release page to eventually showcase gameplay videos for upcoming DLC MS. If it's true, then once we get a gameplay video of WZC, we might be able to assume the total number of DLC MS there will be in the game... I guess.

Oh and about the new first-print incentive mission, it's only downloadable if you have a Bandai Namco ID (the same ID you use to watch early release videos straight from the source), since you'll have to generate the PSN code from Bandai-Namco's site.
Or as an alternative, you could get the Asian version and chances are the download code might be already a straight PSN code. At least this happened for Gundam Breaker though. But of course you're going to need an Asian account to input that code
I would have thought they will use one of the coming soon slot for that. Oh BK do you know the name of that Zeon warship in the screenshot on dengeki online in DGW4 info? Wonder if we get any info on Wednesday? Also the other screenshot next to it with the 2 red mechs what's the name of the mech in the background is that jet gundam grunt? Thanks
Edited by Terrorcons45, Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:31 pm.
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Sum Gai
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One thing to note is that Hikaru Midorikawa (VA of Heero) is a huge (and I mean huge) fan of the SRW games. Hell if I recall correctly as soon as SRW W was released he went out and bought a copy despite the fact that he would have eventually received a free copy due to his working relationship with Banpresto and being in many of the SRW games. He's also one of the people who pushed for Demonbane being in SRW UX.
Most likely he somewhat played a part in helping Banpresto's decision to have Wing as a semi regular part of SRW.
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Terrorcons45
Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:57 pm
Oh BK do you know the name of that Zeon warship in the screenshot on dengeki online in DGW4 info? Wonder if we get any info on Wednesday? Also the other screenshot next to it with the 2 red mechs what's the name of the mech in the background is that jet gundam grunt? Thanks
Warship looks to be the Rewloola and the Gunts are the M1 Astrays from Seed
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Terrorcons45
Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:57 pm
do you know the name of that Zeon warship in the screenshot on dengeki online in DGW4 info?
Rewloola?, it's the only notable red colored Zeon warship in that shape
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It sounds like terrorcon may have spotted a marusame? I'm pretty that's what he meant and that would be neat, especially since I don't think we have any grunts with a transformation.
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I'm just popping on here to apologize to BlackKite. Sorry, I let myself sink to others' level.

You won't have to worry about me anymore, because I'll stick to only talking about the game.

Btw, Looks like Blitz was finally confirmed to be playable. I was actually starting to wonder. So, We're still lacking Savior, right? I wonder if Koei's gonna skimp on it and just have Athrun use Justice in early Destiny?

Anyway, I'm very hyped about this game and don't intend to let myself get sidetracked again by pointless stuff so I'll go ahead and apologize to everyone.

Okay, I'm out till the next reveal/videos.


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Terrorcons45
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Thanks Zeik Liberated and wodash. I hope get to see more warships, even though I feel that won't happen until the game is out. Hope it is among those warships we can summon.
bigmacthecaveman
Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:33 pm
It sounds like terrorcon may have spotted a marusame? I'm pretty that's what he meant and that would be neat, especially since I don't think we have any grunts with a transformation.
The purple mech behind the M1 astrays, is that the marusame? Is it an old add? Thanks.
Edited by Terrorcons45, Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:51 pm.
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:42 pm
Thanks Zeik Liberated and wodash. I hope get to see more warships, even though I feel that won't happen until the game is out. Hope it is among those warships we can summon.
bigmacthecaveman
Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:33 pm
It sounds like terrorcon may have spotted a marusame? I'm pretty that's what he meant and that would be neat, especially since I don't think we have any grunts with a transformation.
The purple mech behind the M1 astrays, is that the marusame? Is it an old add? Thanks.
The Purple MS? You mean the Gaza C's?
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:15 am
I don't want to reignite the flaming debate from before but it seems there's a misunderstanding about "successful" Gundams.

People think Wing revitalized the franchise but, actually, it bombed just as much as G Gundam... Here are the average ratings in Japan:

Z Gundam: 6.6%
...
G Gundam: 4.1%
W Gundam: 4.3%

I don't live in Japan but I read a lot of forums about Japanese culture and apparently, Wing was really not popular in Japan. People tend to think it was because Wing had a lot of success in the US.

Back on topic, it seems pretty unlikely that we'll get any good reveal before the release. I'm a bit afraid frankly, because even the long PV didn't show very much, we mostly saw official mode.

I'm more interested in the Ultimate Mode and there wasn't any info about it.
Indeed, G and Wing were similarly received because, at the time, Gundam fans were VERY anti-AU. The vast majority of Gundam fans wanted another UC timeline story despite the fact that Victory was both a critical and financial failure. However, what the two did do in Japan was boost model sales. This is why despite their TV rating in Japan, the two were the only AUs until SEED to get Western releases and featuring roles in games like SRW.

Wing and G were easily some of the best marketing Bandai has done in the West, because Wing was a darkhorse at a time when people didn't know about Gundam, but it was paired up with Toonami, airing at a time where it would get plenty of traffic. People liked it. So then G came along and paired well with DBZ, which was going through a new saga at the time. The show's popularity was bolstered by siphoning off DBZ's fans to boost viewership in North America.

Hope this clarifies things.

I certainly agree on Ultimate Mode, things CANNOT be good if they're outright refusing to show us anything. I'm betting we won't even get any special dialogue or cutscenes for Ultimate Mode considering Official Mode is hogging the f*cking spotlight when it shouldn't.

But yes, the videos. Honestly, neither has me impressed at all. Black Lion was certainly apt in saying the Blitz reminded him of Deathscythe, because that's certainly what I was thinking the whole time, primarily whether or not DSH would get some buffs and moveset changes. I'm already disappointed with the roster as is, but I have an astounding apathy for those like Nicol, so yeah, no thanks.

Alpha is looking distinctly boring, however. At least it benefits from high damage to make that moveset work, though like Blitz, it certainly won't be my first pick.
Edited by Master Omega, Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:09 pm.
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:43 pm
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:42 pm
Thanks Zeik Liberated and wodash. I hope get to see more warships, even though I feel that won't happen until the game is out. Hope it is among those warships we can summon.
bigmacthecaveman
Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:33 pm
It sounds like terrorcon may have spotted a marusame? I'm pretty that's what he meant and that would be neat, especially since I don't think we have any grunts with a transformation.
The purple mech behind the M1 astrays, is that the marusame? Is it an old add? Thanks.
The Purple MS? You mean the Gaza C's?
Not sure. Purple-pinkish colour with a long beam gun.
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Yeah, that is probably the Gaza Cs
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So I guess Blitz can function like DSH with the stealth?
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