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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,243 Views)
Master Omega
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I would assume so. It's likely the same "hold triangle" method.
Edited by Master Omega, Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:13 pm.
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:52 pm
So I guess Blitz can function like DSH with the stealth?
not quite. DS's Stealth was mainly cosmetic. Blitz's stealths eems toa ctually function as stealth. but maybe they'll change DS's stealth to match that as well.
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Tyrox, I think he means whether the stealth is still used in the same way as before, being able to move around after initiating a charge attack.
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Well, this is why I didn't think Alpha Azieru would be playable originally. There doesn't seem to be many ways that you could give it a moveset that works reasonably well in this game series. So yeah, it looks really weird.

I'm waiting to see more of Blitz. I'd like to give it to a different pilot whenever I get around to getting this game but I'd like to know what its full moveset is like before hand. High Magnetism could be a thing on Blitz. However, I'm concerned with how its ground special appears to work. If it fails to grab an enemy, will the special still go off? That could be problematic.
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Alpha Azieru is kinda big and... Ugly. It can only be used in space too and its pilot is a horrible person.
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:23 pm
Tyrox, I think he means whether the stealth is still used in the same way as before, being able to move around after initiating a charge attack.
oh. that I couldnt tell from the vid. they kinda just entered a clip where he was already doing it. yeah, prolly activated the same way or something.
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I'm betting that they can do it with the C1 as well, now that it has a charge cancel effect. Which is why you might have missed it on Blitz.
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or it's possible it could be a double X move, like for the variant form boosts. Press X twice and goes into a mirage colloid boost. just instead of extra speed, it makes Blitz safe from attacks
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:14 pm
or it's possible it could be a double X move, like for the variant form boosts. Press X twice and goes into a mirage colloid boost. just instead of extra speed, it makes Blitz safe from attacks
That would be horrible for missions where you have to get to certain fields in time XD
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or it's possible it could be a double X move, like for the variant form boosts. Press X twice and goes into a mirage colloid boost. just instead of extra speed, it makes Blitz safe from attacks

Either way would work, though I liked having the ability to place attacks better as the DSH, since if a crowd wasn't immediately near, you could move to another to make it more effective, or out of the way of aces.
Edited by Master Omega, Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:36 pm.
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:17 pm
Alpha Azieru is kinda big and... Ugly. It can only be used in space too and its pilot is a horrible person.
I disagree with your cosmetic tastes, and quite frankly I think Quess was confused and naive, rather than a "terrible person." In other words a sympathetic character.
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To be sympathetic you need a reason to sympathize with her. She was just a spoiled brat that lashed out against others because they didn't do what she wanted. If she wasn't a Newtype I highly doubt Char would have even agreed to be in the same room as her.

She's also tied to Hathaway... Ugh.
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SazukeEX
Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:17 pm
Alpha Azieru is kinda big and... Ugly. It can only be used in space too and its pilot is a horrible person.
I disagree with your cosmetic tastes, and quite frankly I think Quess was confused and naive, rather than a "terrible person." In other words a sympathetic character.
I like the Gundam Evolve version of Quess but that's just because they alter her fate near the end of the battle and make her okay. I unfortunately do not like Quess in CCA. I like Alpha though, I just wish its move set looked better.

Edit: That being said, optional scenarios/mission objectives such as the one done in Gundam Evolve 5 would actually be pretty good for DWG Shin's official mode. It would be nice if they could do stuff like that. They did it in the past in regards to DWG 1's official modes every so often.
Edited by Re4_Wesker, Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:35 am.
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honestly, i think the stealth is cool that theya dded and all, but jsut seems likea gimmick i doubt peeps would use much unless it automatically happens.
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I don't see the point of the stealth thing besides being a little visual flare. There is no sneaking in these games, only killing
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:20 am
I don't see the point of the stealth thing besides being a little visual flare. There is no sneaking in these games, only killing
MAYBE... if your in a tough fight, the boss is kind of an ass kicker, and you need to get away to let your HP regen. then yeah sure... but thats it.

now, if it turns out that this stealth dash makes your attack strong when you exit out of it, thats a different story. then it could be a good way to get a bit hit in. but that remains to be seen.
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Do we even know if the HP regen is back? As far as I see, the whole respawning and morale is gone, so I assume there will be no more regenerating HP without DG cells equipped.
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I really like Blitz moveset, they're doing an awsome job with the moveset's :yes:
Now let me see Freedom! :sly:
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not sure. seems like whenever we see demo they are always creaming the enemy.
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At least we can take solace in the fact people will probably have the game in the next few days. So many leaks.
Edited by Joshelplex, Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:51 am.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:52 am
To be sympathetic you need a reason to sympathize with her. She was just a spoiled brat that lashed out against others because they didn't do what she wanted. If she wasn't a Newtype I highly doubt Char would have even agreed to be in the same room as her.

She's also tied to Hathaway... Ugh.
Her parents were breaking up, or at least fighting (gleaned from blatant dialog) and she was scared and confused. And furthermore, what the ****ing hell do you want from a 13 year old from a rich family? Complete maturity? For christ's sakes people, just take a minute to analyze a character before you judge them, eh? Either way, I'm done with this discussion, can someone please tell me what is so bad about the Alpha's moveset: is it just ugly/awkward, or is it ineffective too?
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Hope PlayAsia ships the game early so that it arrives on the release date, instead of shipping ON the release date.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:52 am
To be sympathetic you need a reason to sympathize with her. She was just a spoiled brat that lashed out against others because they didn't do what she wanted. If she wasn't a Newtype I highly doubt Char would have even agreed to be in the same room as her.

She's also tied to Hathaway... Ugh.
Her parents were breaking up, or at least fighting (gleaned from blatant dialog) and she was scared and confused. And furthermore, what the ****ing hell do you want from a 13 year old from a rich family? Complete maturity? For christ's sakes people, just take a minute to analyze a character before you judge them, eh? Either way, I'm done with this discussion, can someone please tell me what is so bad about the Alpha's moveset: is it just ugly/awkward, or is it ineffective too?
I might feel pity for her fish-out-of-water situation, but that's about all I feel. She still didn't demonstrate much of any traits that would make her character or personality actually likeable, and frankly that's by design.

Anyways, back to gameplay. As disappointing as Alpha Azieru's moveset is (I mean, it's the EXACT SAME as in previous installments except now the player can direct it), it kind of makes me wonder how phoned in the movesets of other machines is going to be. Will an old timer like, say, Ridden's Gelgoog or the Bolinoak Sammahn have remotely the same kind of agility as SGM newbies and updated suits, or are they going to essentially be left behind like the AA apparently was?

Koei classically phoning it in-- again-- seems like a real possibility this go-around. Not that it ever wasn't. :facepalm:
Edited by LordKarasuman, Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:11 am.
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I'm pretty sure only Seed suits will be getting revamps to their movesets. We haven't seen anything else play any differently at all
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:52 am
To be sympathetic you need a reason to sympathize with her. She was just a spoiled brat that lashed out against others because they didn't do what she wanted. If she wasn't a Newtype I highly doubt Char would have even agreed to be in the same room as her.

She's also tied to Hathaway... Ugh.
Her parents were breaking up, or at least fighting (gleaned from blatant dialog) and she was scared and confused. And furthermore, what the ****ing hell do you want from a 13 year old from a rich family? Complete maturity? For christ's sakes people, just take a minute to analyze a character before you judge them, eh? Either way, I'm done with this discussion, can someone please tell me what is so bad about the Alpha's moveset: is it just ugly/awkward, or is it ineffective too?
I expect her not to be a psycho that gets off on killing people. She was perfectly fine with the idea of offing Chan just because Amuro was dating her. That isn't healthy at all, that child has had major issues. Being treated like a Princess and told how awesome she was and given a WOMD only made her even more toxic and allowed her to act on her murderous intentions.

Being a spoiled brat with daddy issues doesn't give her a pass to kill people and laugh about it. Quite frankly she was a horrible person and her death was long in coming. If she wasn't a Newtype Char would have wanted nothing to do with her. Since she was he used her until she got herself killed as he didn't expect her to survive with her spoiled naivety.

The only real shame is that her death cost the life of Chan because Hathaway is an idiot. Glad his own father put him down like the dog that he is.

Besides. When my parents were breaking up, and always fighting, when I was like 10 I didn't run away with a stranger and start killing people and I'm not even the most stable guy around either.

That girl had issues and deserves no sympathy. A spoiled homicidal brat from beginning to end.

It's boring, clunky, and looks odd.
Edited by SazukeEX, Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:40 am.
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