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Shin Gundam Musou [Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn]
Topic Started: Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:00 pm (22,242 Views)
Lazaroth
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Black Lion
Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:28 am
Hope PlayAsia ships the game early so that it arrives on the release date, instead of shipping ON the release date.
I used YesAsia more times than PlayAsia, but PlayAsia is faster. Probably I'll have the game shipped in 20th, it was the same with DW8xl <_<
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:36 am
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:39 am
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:52 am
To be sympathetic you need a reason to sympathize with her. She was just a spoiled brat that lashed out against others because they didn't do what she wanted. If she wasn't a Newtype I highly doubt Char would have even agreed to be in the same room as her.

She's also tied to Hathaway... Ugh.
Her parents were breaking up, or at least fighting (gleaned from blatant dialog) and she was scared and confused. And furthermore, what the ****ing hell do you want from a 13 year old from a rich family? Complete maturity? For christ's sakes people, just take a minute to analyze a character before you judge them, eh? Either way, I'm done with this discussion, can someone please tell me what is so bad about the Alpha's moveset: is it just ugly/awkward, or is it ineffective too?
I expect her not to be a psycho that gets off on killing people. She was perfectly fine with the idea of offing Chan just because Amuro was dating her. That isn't healthy at all, that child has had major issues. Being treated like a Princess and told how awesome she was and given a WOMD only made her even more toxic and allowed her to act on her murderous intentions.

Being a spoiled brat with daddy issues doesn't give her a pass to kill people and laugh about it. Quite frankly she was a horrible person and her death was long in coming. If she wasn't a Newtype Char would have wanted nothing to do with her. Since she was he used her until she got herself killed as he didn't expect her to survive with her spoiled naivety.

The only real shame is that her death cost the life of Chan because Hathaway is an idiot. Glad his own father put him down like the dog that he is.

Besides. When my parents were breaking up, and always fighting, when I was like 10 I didn't run away with a stranger and start killing people and I'm not even the most stable guy around either.

That girl had issues and deserves no sympathy. A spoiled homicidal brat from beginning to end.

It's boring, clunky, and looks odd.
You think she knew what she was doing? All pilots were taught to think of the enemy as suits, not people. She was young, sheltered, and naive enough to not understand. You are holding a naive child to the standards of an adult. I'm sorry about your parents, but when mine split up I, at the age of 12, tried to kill myself. Reactions are as varied as people are. Stop your judgement and stay your ego my friend this is a fight the both of us will lose if it keeps on.

Now... How is the Alpha's moveset clunky? Does it not flow right? Or do the attacks start very suddenly? What?
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http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20131214_627749.html
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/772/772094/

Report articles from the pre-release talkshow. Got some more pics and infos, though nothing too groundbreaking as usual

SEED Destiny's first stage starts with Alex Dino in ZAKU Warrior before switching to Shinn in Impulse. Also notice a confirmed Rey's Blaze ZAKU Phantom

The (in)famous Brightslap scene is described in the game. Not even my father has slapped me.

There is a stage flow in Ultimate Mode
Char confirmed to still have his GW3 costume
Johnny Ridden confirmed to still wearing his helmet

Unicorn's story will only go until Ep 5
Devil Gundam is confirmed not playable because it can't move at all since they're still using the same form from past games

EDIT: Oh and please cut that discussion above, it's getting off-topic and unrelated. I'm sorry to hear that, but this is not the appropriate place to talk about that.
Edited by BlackKite, Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:44 am.
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I had actually dropped it, but thanks anyway. Why in the world would Unicorn stop at 5 I wonder? Also, can you better explain what stage flow means? Will we be having hypotheticals in this one?
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Oh so Ultimate Mode does have some kind of story structure? I guess that means it might be a little better than DWG2's Mission Mode at the very least
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:50 am
Why in the world would Unicorn stop at 5 I wonder? Also, can you better explain what stage flow means? Will we be having hypotheticals in this one?
Because they don't want to overlap Unicorn's OVA, plus Ep6 doesn't really have a major battle except for the beginning which was already teased in Ep5.
I think I can really see them trolling with a teaser CG cutscene with Rozen Zulu in it... most likely it'll be DLC though.

Anyway I think the 'flow' could be better described as that there will be stage branches as per according to our obtained information.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:52 am
Oh so Ultimate Mode does have some kind of story structure? I guess that means it might be a little better than DWG2's Mission Mode at the very least
They said they would recreate the story of the characters in Ultimate mode. There will probably be what-if scenario (the branching paths on the flow chart).

Some characters will only have what-ifs (F91, V-Gundam, G Gundam, etc...) since there is only a few MS featured.
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I see...

Thanks, that makes it clear as mud to me. Do you mean original Zeta vs A New Translation ending?
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I went to the talk show as planned. Koinuma, Goto, and that Namco-Bandai guy were all there. As expected there was not really anything new. They didn't even do rock, paper, scissors for a free copy of the game.

They started out demonstrating the Official Mode. They only showed part of the first stage for Gundam Seed Destiny. There is some dialogue that sets up the story so you can follow along if you haven't seen it before. Sometimes the background will have still frames of 2D art or characters. The mission starts up and it's Asran in a green Zaku Warrior. You complete your objective and there is a nice cut-scene of Impulse flying in. Then your character is switched over to Impulse. They said that you will be switching characters mid-mission based on how the story unfolds. Impulse completes his objective and you go to space. The cool thing was that there are both land and space areas on the same map.

Next they went over to Ultimate Mode. They mentioned the Bearguy and the Strongest of the Reds mission that was announced recently. They went ahead and played that mission with Bearguy. During the mission Koinuma mentioned that Wing Gundam Zero (EW) will be a download, but there was no footage of it. He also said that the number of download characters is around the same as what they did for Gundam Musou 3. So there is your answer to that.

Next stop was the gallery mode. As you would imagine, this is the place to listed to BGM and watch all the cut-scenes and dialogues you have unlocked. Koinuma wanted to show off the "You hit me! Not even my father has hit me!" scene from the original Gundam. It's voice acted with still 2D pictures.

And that was pretty much it. In parting, they mentioned that the big poster with all the mobile suits on it (it was posted here a while back) does have every unit in the game on it. Not including downloads, of course.

After the show you got to demo the game. There were about 6 characters to choose from. The two MAs were Big Zam and Destroy. There was a 10 minute time limit so you could only play 2 characters. I went with Big Zam and Nu Gundam. Nu Gundam is different (I think). He has his punch combo, flip and bazooka, and dummy balloons. Holding triangle will get you one of your triangle moves without having to go through the combo to get it. Like, I don't know what the technical terms are for all this stuff, but if anyone has any questions I'll try to clarify.

Of the stages that I saw, they looked a lot better designed than Gundam Musou 3. They are bigger. I guess one of the reasons for that is because the MAs have to be able to maneuver. I never liked the rooms and corridors thing in Gundam Musou 3. My favorite part of playing Big Zam was trying to be other video game characters. I had him flash kicking like a boss. Then I wasted time trying to hop on GMs like Mario. It was a good day.
Edited by terryralph, Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:27 am.
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Strongest of the Red?

Char
Johnny
Puru Two
Full Frontal
Lunamaria
Athrun
Milliardo Peacecraft

Who else?

Punch Combo? Seems like they're trying to augment more stuff from the Movie for the Nu Gundam. Maybe taking pointers from SRW Z2.2's version as well?
Edited by SazukeEX, Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:24 am.
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Okay so we have 3 DLC spots left

I highly doubt Hi-Nu will get in. That's just a little too hardcore for Koei to pander to.

Best most likely candidates are:
Rozen Zulu
Spiegal
Astray Red Frame
Blue Frame
Strike Noir
00 Qan[t]
or a new Musha (Ryofu Tallgeese perhaps)

Rozen Zulu and Red Frame I wouldn't be excited about, but any of the others would be cool.
Edited by Wild Lion, Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:57 am.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:22 am
Strongest of the Red?

Char
Johnny
Puru Two
Full Frontal
Lunamaria
Athrun
Milliardo Peacecraft

Who else?
Shinn
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:43 am
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20131214_627749.html
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/772/772094/

Report articles from the pre-release talkshow. Got some more pics and infos, though nothing too groundbreaking as usual

SEED Destiny's first stage starts with Alex Dino in ZAKU Warrior before switching to Shinn in Impulse. Also notice a confirmed Rey's Blaze ZAKU Phantom

The (in)famous Brightslap scene is described in the game. Not even my father has slapped me.

There is a stage flow in Ultimate Mode
Char confirmed to still have his GW3 costume
Johnny Ridden confirmed to still wearing his helmet

Unicorn's story will only go until Ep 5
Devil Gundam is confirmed not playable because it can't move at all since they're still using the same form from past games

EDIT: Oh and please cut that discussion above, it's getting off-topic and unrelated. I'm sorry to hear that, but this is not the appropriate place to talk about that.
Thanks BK and terryralph for the scans and info. I am happy that I have preordered my copy.

Please BK who is the girl in The (in)famous Brightslap scene, is she a pilot or an operator?

A better image of the poster http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/772/772156/

Can we confirm Neo custom Windam, Yzak custom Slash ZAKU Phantom, the unknown gundam or another new mech in there?

Thanks
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The girl? You mean Fraw Bow? Amuro's childhood friend and caretaker of children on White Base.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:59 pm
The girl? You mean Fraw Bow? Amuro's childhood friend and caretaker of children on White Base.
Thank you and now to see what's on the poster my knowledge on Gundams is limited. Some I am not sure of.
Edited by Terrorcons45, Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:05 pm.
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Has anyone been able to find the Bolinok Sammahn on that poster yet? I'd be ever so miffed if Sara had to use the Pallace again.
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The girl? You mean Fraw Bow? Amuro's childhood friend and caretaker of children on White Base.
Thank you and now to see what's on the poster my knowledge on Gundams is limited. Some I am not sure of.
in Zeta, she's Hayato's wife...
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I still can't really make anything out on the poster. Wish I had a computer with internet.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:05 am
I see...

Thanks, that makes it clear as mud to me. Do you mean original Zeta vs A New Translation ending?
Could be... but I don't know!

I'm a bit more hyped for the game. The still pictures taken from the anime show that at least, the story will be a bit more fleshed out than in previous games.

And please Koei... Don't screw up the DLC... Personnaly, any new MS not from Seed or Destiny would be welcomed.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:26 am
Okay so we have 3 DLC spots left

I highly doubt Hi-Nu will get in. That's just a little too hardcore for Koei to pander to.

Best most likely candidates are:
Rozen Zulu
Spiegal
Astray Red Frame
Blue Frame
Strike Noir
00 Qan[t]
or a new Musha (Ryofu Tallgeese perhaps)

Rozen Zulu and Red Frame I wouldn't be excited about, but any of the others would be cool.
We're going pilotless this time, so the Astrays and Strike Noire aren't gonna pop up.

As far as Spiegal or a new Musha, those are probably in already. Those feel like they would.

Seeing as how we have Yzak's Zaku, I would assume we'd get Dearka's as well?
Edited by Joshelplex, Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:01 pm.
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It wouldn't be hard to put in Dearka's Zaku as it's pretty similar to Lunamaria's aside from a different colour scheme, isn't it?
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Or they could opt for the much easier shortcut: Just put CE73 Dearka in a grunt ver. ZAKU Warrior, hence it's the same color after all :ph43r:

Anyway someone has uploaded a larger version of the poster
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But in case anyone wants an easier link, click here for another hosted image :)
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Dearka had a black Slash Phantom though, thing looked so sick.

After I've gotten a few coffees into me im gonna go crazy diggin through that.
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I notice something odd in between the mushas, what is that thing?
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I still can't tell what's between the Gaza D and the Gouf. Can anybody tell what it is?
Knight gundam
Edited by bigmacthecaveman, Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:05 pm.
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