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One Piece: Burning Blood; The upcoming fighting game
Topic Started: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:08 pm (11,886 Views)
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So basically a DLC mode? Hopefully it'll be free!
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The game did sell well for its first week, but less than PW3's.
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Yeah I read about that from Gamefaq board as well. I do hope it will sell enough so that they'll make sequel(s) where they can add more stuff on the foundations they've built here and perhaps make the combat faster-paced.
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Mmmm....those game modes seem pretty bland. The pirate flag mode things sounds kinda interesting, but the fact that it's online is what turns me off. Online gaming is just too much nowadays, especially when it comes to competitive games. A casual gamer like myself doesn't have a chance against the types that study every little detail and aspect of a game, that's why I prefer game modes like that to be an offline thing so I can just enjoy the experience at my own pace and not have to invest too much time or effort into a game just to stand a chance against the hardcore gaming types.

If there's at least a leveling system in the story mode, I might be still interested, but seems to me this is just another copy/paste fighting game with generic game modes and no creativity.
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Online gaming is just too much nowadays, especially when it comes to competitive games. A casual gamer like myself doesn't have a chance against the types that study every little detail and aspect of a game, that's why I prefer game modes like that to be an offline thing so I can just enjoy the experience at my own pace and not have to invest too much time or effort into a game just to stand a chance against the hardcore gaming types.
Pretty much that. I also prefer gaming offline most of the time, I've never really been that much into online games. I admit Pirate Flag Battle mode sounds pretty cool, but if it's only online, then that's disappointing.

Nevertheless, I'm still very much looking forward to this game. I've read about some of the flaws in Gamefaq but they don't really bother me that much. I also rarely play fighting games so this genre is definitely a much needed breath of fresh air. Heck, the only fighting game series I casually play is Tekken series.

It's only about a month away now and I don't really have any other games I'm gonna buy this summer. Plus I've gotten really into the One Piece series by now, so... yeah.
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this is also what kinda kills JoJo ASB, i mean Campaign mode, a single player extra mode, is online only, that is just :wacko: , even UMVC3 had offline H&H mode even tho it's mostly aimed for online play.
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this is also what kinda kills JoJo ASB, i mean Campaign mode, a single player extra mode, is online only, that is just :wacko: , even UMVC3 had offline H&H mode even tho it's mostly aimed for online play.
Jojo ASB isn't all that bad actually. I actually like the campaign mode in that game, it's relaxing, never ending, and makes you feel like you're unlocking stuff because of the medal system and campaign rank points. I still go back to that game every now and then and only play the campaign mode just to unlock everything every "boss" has to offer. More games should have a game mode like that, but make it more interactive and add more to it, kind of like how Mortal Kombat's "Krypt" is. Jojo EoH on the other hand, was a complete and utter disappointment/disaster. Never played such an empty and lifeless game in my entire life. I'll take ASB's campaign mode over the entire game of EoH ANY day.

Also...this is coming from an avid Jojo fan who was at one point ranked #2 in North America in ASB's campaign rankings for quite some time. So yeah...I loved campaign mode.
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:38 pm
Online gaming is just too much nowadays, especially when it comes to competitive games. A casual gamer like myself doesn't have a chance against the types that study every little detail and aspect of a game, that's why I prefer game modes like that to be an offline thing so I can just enjoy the experience at my own pace and not have to invest too much time or effort into a game just to stand a chance against the hardcore gaming types.
Pretty much that. I also prefer gaming offline most of the time, I've never really been that much into online games. I admit Pirate Flag Battle mode sounds pretty cool, but if it's only online, then that's disappointing.

Nevertheless, I'm still very much looking forward to this game. I've read about some of the flaws in Gamefaq but they don't really bother me that much. I also rarely play fighting games so this genre is definitely a much needed breath of fresh air. Heck, the only fighting game series I casually play is Tekken series.

It's only about a month away now and I don't really have any other games I'm gonna buy this summer. Plus I've gotten really into the One Piece series by now, so... yeah.
You should really check out J-Stars Victory Vs then. That game wasn't as empty as this new One Piece game sounds. J-Stars at least had a story mode that takes the perspective of 3 different teams(one of which is an all One Piece team) and gives you an overworld to explore, do side quests, level up and just entertain you with all the different interactions between Shonen Jump characters. It also gave a sense of mild, yet linear progression. It also had an interesting challenge mode for every fighting stage, and an arcade mode with various themes(ie: only fight characters from the 80's, etc). You can also swap out your own music tracks and put them in the game, and there's also a shop system and J-card system that allows you to customize a "deck" using cards that give different abilities to you and linking them to build a stronger deck, etc.

It definitely had a lot going for it and had a lot to offer, but fell short in not adding enough, which is why even after all that, you're still left feeling the game is unfinished. Like for example, not allowing certain characters to be playable in story mode(most of which were my favorites), not enough variety in side quests, a bland leveling system, no real cutscenes(just pictures and dialogue), not enough characters to choose from, and so on. It was a game that had a lot of potential, but was sadly half assed.
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Jojo ASB isn't all that bad actually. I actually like the campaign mode in that game, it's relaxing, never ending, and makes you feel like you're unlocking stuff because of the medal system and campaign rank points.
i didn't say the mode was bad or not fun, i said that it's just asinine that the single player only content is online only, they should've made it an offline mode

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You should really check out J-Stars Victory Vs then. That game wasn't as empty as this new One Piece game sounds. J-Stars at least had a story mode that takes the perspective of 3 different teams(one of which is an all One Piece team)
it still feels empty because all 3 "story mode" is unfairly focussed on the currently running Jump series(Toriko, OP, Bleach), if they spread the story to different eras of Jump then it would've been more acceptable, having at least one playable route with the likes of Kenshiro, JoJo, Kenshin, Momotaro, etc. as the main focus would've made single player that much more appealing

also, there's no "all one piece team", Luffy's story had Seiya as one of the main character.

also, another blunder for J stars is that there's too little stage selection for such huge roster, each playable series should have a stage rep IMO(there's not that many playable series, it's less than half of the playable roster), custom BGM is useless because of this, want to have a stage with Hokuto BGM? well there's no Hokuto stage to begin with :wacko: , also the Victory Burst BGM is universal, which makes custom BGM for that kinda idiotic too, setting the BGM to "We Are" only for the enemy Korosensei using it as his super BGM is just :wacko:

back to the topic tho: costume swaps, they should've done this for PW3 IMO, they got the Tashigi-Smoker swap, but they shouldn't stop there....
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Jojo ASB isn't all that bad actually. I actually like the campaign mode in that game, it's relaxing, never ending, and makes you feel like you're unlocking stuff because of the medal system and campaign rank points.
i didn't say the mode was bad or not fun, i said that it's just asinine that the single player only content is online only, they should've made it an offline mode

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You should really check out J-Stars Victory Vs then. That game wasn't as empty as this new One Piece game sounds. J-Stars at least had a story mode that takes the perspective of 3 different teams(one of which is an all One Piece team)
it still feels empty because all 3 "story mode" is unfairly focussed on the currently running Jump series(Toriko, OP, Bleach), if they spread the story to different eras of Jump then it would've been more acceptable, having at least one playable route with the likes of Kenshiro, JoJo, Kenshin, Momotaro, etc. as the main focus would've made single player that much more appealing

also, there's no "all one piece team", Luffy's story had Seiya as one of the main character.

also, another blunder for J stars is that there's too little stage selection for such huge roster, each playable series should have a stage rep IMO(there's not that many playable series, it's less than half of the playable roster), custom BGM is useless because of this, want to have a stage with Hokuto BGM? well there's no Hokuto stage to begin with :wacko: , also the Victory Burst BGM is universal, which makes custom BGM for that kinda idiotic too, setting the BGM to "We Are" only for the enemy Korosensei using it as his super BGM is just :wacko:

back to the topic tho: costume swaps, they should've done this for PW3 IMO, they got the Tashigi-Smoker swap, but they shouldn't stop there....
Ah, well in that case I agree with pretty much everything you said in the post above, and apologize for confusing the all One Piece team. I forgot about Seiya and for some reason thought it was Boa Hancock, but I think she ends up joining their team anyway..? I forget.

I actually found that if you set the same bgm for the victory burst as the stage bgm, when you burst, it won't interrupt the music.

Also the stage rep thing didn't really bother me much, my main gripe is that there weren't enough characters and that a lot of the character choices were very poor. I would have much rather had Jotaro over Joseph and even Dio. Would have liked to see a 4th DBZ character too, like Piccolo, and the lack of Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho was disappointing. The Fist of the Northstar choices were extremely barren, an addition of Shin or Rei would have been nice, or even Toki or Jagi. The One Piece choices were poor too....why Boa Hancock?? I would have preferred the choice that makes more sense and gone with Zoro instead, or even Nami.

I do agree that the story did lean toward those animes you mentioned more than others, which was a damn shame. I hated not being able to play as my favorite characters, like Toguro, Raoh, Vegeta, Kenshiro, or either of the Jojo characters.
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Ah, well in that case I agree with pretty much everything you said in the post above, and apologize for confusing the all One Piece team. I forgot about Seiya and for some reason thought it was Boa Hancock, but I think she ends up joining their team anyway..? I forget.
Hancock joins Luffy in the middle of the story but she's not a main character(main characters can be leveled up, side characters don't, and have little to do in story mode), also they ditched Gintoki out of the storyline right after Hancock joins, the one character that would've brighten the game's storyline, got shafted so that yet another OP character can needlessly join the fray is just :wacko:

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I do agree that the story did lean toward those animes you mentioned more than others, which was a damn shame. I hated not being able to play as my favorite characters, like Toguro, Raoh, Vegeta, Kenshiro, or either of the Jojo characters.
pretty much, again one of the reason why J Star's 3 story mode is rather moot because not every era, let alone everyone, get a piece in story mode, making it very unappealing if you just happen to NOT like any of the 3 anime series that comprises the story mode, thus making the story mode a long chore as opposed to something you could enjoy.
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i thought this was crossover DLC or something :wacko:
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i thought this was crossover DLC or something :wacko:
Nah, that's reserved for WO4 :doge:

Though I'm pretty sure OP license for just one or a few guests would not be worth it, because it'd be expensive for just a slight boost in the sales. Besides, Luffy's moveset probably would have to be heavily watered down when converted to WO format anyway.
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Been listening to some music of the game from YT.

Man this track is awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c78fYhZt7k8
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Developers said they might do a sequel if the game sells well enough, but even if they do one, this'd not be in a near future since another One Piece game's in development by another company (they don't say which one it is).

The story in the manga is incredibly interesting and hype at the moment. Sanji's father has made his entrance! First, Luffy's father and now Sanji's. Who's next? :lol:
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i'd rather they fixed J Stars first, that thing had so much promise, all it needs are a better polish and being fair to the roster/series
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Developers said they might do a sequel if the game sells well enough, but even if they do one, this'd not be in a near future since another One Piece game's in development by another company (they don't say which one it is).
Pirate Warriors 4. Koei take my money. Steal all my all treasure chests.

But yeah I hope BB will sell well and we get to see more games for that series.

I'm just SO into One Piece right now I'd literally buy any game of it out there. I already checked out if my local game retail store had any PS1/PS2 ones but nope. Might get PW1 someday though.
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i'd rather they fixed J Stars first, that thing had so much promise, all it needs are a better polish and being fair to the roster/series
I would love to see this. A better story mode with more quest variety and more available characters to play as. The original story mode felt only half finished, it needed so much more.

Plus, I'd love to see more Yu Yu Hakusho, DBZ, and Fist of the Northstar characters, as well as OP and even Shikamaru from Naruto would be awesome too.
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Developers said they might do a sequel if the game sells well enough, but even if they do one, this'd not be in a near future since another One Piece game's in development by another company (they don't say which one it is).
Pirate Warriors 4. Koei take my money. Steal all my all treasure chests.

But yeah I hope BB will sell well and we get to see more games for that series.

I'm just SO into One Piece right now I'd literally buy any game of it out there. I already checked out if my local game retail store had any PS1/PS2 ones but nope. Might get PW1 someday though.
The first PW game was pretty fun, but now that I'm on episode 190-ish in OP, PW1 definitely skips a LOT of story scenes.

The boss fights are pretty epic though, at least. Very cinematic and even some puzzles in some stages. PW3 thus far already beats both PW1 and PW2.
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English demo is out.

Plus there's a new trailer of Pirate Flag Battle mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pufjkT8Ba14
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Okay...rant warning up ahead:

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I understand your rant and I agree a lot with what you said. I'm not a big fan of online gaming. While fighting a real player instead of CPU character always has that nice layer of unpredictability and element of randomness that can (probably) never achieved with A.I., it's the nature of the players and how they act that is a deal breaker to me.

The only fighting game I've tried online matches with was TTT2 and even though that game is great, the online modes just sucked because most of the players are so immature and take it WAY too seriously.

I generally don't even like any social aspects of gaming and the fact that some developers really wanna push it. That's why I love games that have extensive and great offline single-player campaigns. I have zero interest with all those share functions of PS4 and stuff like that. The friend list thing is neat though, because it's fun to see what games people I know are playing from time to time.

I'm definitely gonna try online matches in BB once, though, because I wanna see what it's going to be like and it also nets me a trophy lol.
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I understand your rant and I agree a lot with what you said. I'm not a big fan of online gaming. While fighting a real player instead of CPU character always has that nice layer of unpredictability and element of randomness that can (probably) never achieved with A.I., it's the nature of the players and how they act that is a deal breaker to me.

The only fighting game I've tried online matches with was TTT2 and even though that game is great, the online modes just sucked because most of the players are so immature and take it WAY too seriously.

I generally don't even like any social aspects of gaming and the fact that some developers really wanna push it. That's why I love games that have extensive and great offline single-player campaigns. I have zero interest with all those share functions of PS4 and stuff like that. The friend list thing is neat though, because it's fun to see what games people I know are playing from time to time.

I'm definitely gonna try online matches in BB once, though, because I wanna see what it's going to be like and it also nets me a trophy lol.
Yeah, you and I are pretty much on the same page as far as our views on online gaming. I'm pretty much the same way and prefer extensive offline modes. That's why the DBZ Budokia/Tenkaichi games were great, Persona 4 Arena series, Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle, Soul Blade/Calibur series(mainly part 3), Super Smash Bros series, and so on and so forth.

All those games had great offline modes and even J-Stars was pretty good too...though very half assed. Offline game modes are really what adds the true "meat" to a game's replayability value and game developers should recognize that if they want to make a "quality" game. Instead, it seems they just want to take advantage of addictive/compulsive competitive gamers who live and breath competing in video games and offer online vs modes(which are all virtually the same) and feed those types of gamers as if the game was a highly addictive drug that that gamer needs, while the company swims in their money.

Seriously, the video game industry, especially the mainstream video game companies, all deal their games out as if they were drugs now. Taking advantage of the fanaticism while hardly putting any effort into a game that could have been truly amazing. They recognize that as long as the game is based off a popular franchise, people will buy it regardless if whether it was a good game or not...so they barely put any effort into it and just make a crap game so they can get paid as quickly as possible and get rich.

It's all so damn corrupt now. -shakes head-

Sorry....that was another rant and I wasn't even trying to rant either, heh. My bad.
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I'm glad there's still many series that haven't moved much to that direction yet and fortunately a lot of my favorite series happen to be like those :lol:
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does Burning Blood confirmed to have Training mode? because J Stars doesn't and it made it suck really gigantic balls, i mean seriously, a game in this day and date, lacks a simple training mode.......
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does Burning Blood confirmed to have Training mode? because J Stars doesn't and it made it suck really gigantic balls, i mean seriously, a game in this day and date, lacks a simple training mode.......
J-Star had a training mode...

just do 2P vs mode and leave the other controller alone as you wail on the dummy character. :D

Lol, jk jk, but yeah I agree, J-Stars really did need a training mode.
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