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Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only)
Topic Started: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:26 pm (6,848 Views)
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Well amongst the WO1 Wu stages you got:
Main: Mt. Ding Jun, Chang Ban, Odani Castle, Osaka Castle, Sekigahara, He Fei, Komaki-Nagakute, Koshi Castle

Gaidens I can't even remember.

Yeah, I guess Osaka's the best bet, mostly because of the interactive part. Really, the only way to go faster in that stage is to go through the main gate and get caught so that all the officers in the stage will appear at once as soon as you rescue Sun Jian.
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question:
1.any new triple team musous?
2.gameplay changes/additional gameplay feature not seen in WO2?(aside from 2p can use different team)
3.does WO1 scenario now uses the WO2 gameplay style?(assist counter,triple musou,nerfed mitsunari,buffed cao ren etc.)
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It's already been established that your 3rd question is correct, as evidenced by a few MOZ vids flying around here.

Your 2nd question, not entirely sure.

But I'm with wodash, are there new special Triple musou's? Come on, surely they must have added a whole lot more. 92 characters in WO2 and only like less than 10 Special Triple Musou's? FAIL.
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how about the NPC's? have they use the SW2XL characters to replace generic NPC on WO1 scenarios?(toshiie,katsuie,and motochika)

does the WO1/SW1 yoshimoto is still in?

here's hoping for a realization of huang zhong~tokugawa musou and the "let's make cao pi a pincushion" triple musou
Edited by wodash, Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:38 pm.
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IRRC, Toshiie was the only one who was a generic in WO1. Crimson says that they replaced that generic with another generic Oda general in the SW Honnoji stage, and no doubt it will be the same in the Wei Tian Shui stage.

Motochika and Katsuie were never generics in WO1.
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Did they Add a new movies in story mode ??~:.
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So far it seems they only added new movies to the new Dream stages. Crimson says he played through the entire SW WO1 story, and if there were new movies he would have mentioned it.

Now that I think about it, if I do get a chance to play it, I can finally play the WO story in its entireity in the correct order without having to swap discs in and out and experiencing different gameplay and difficulty. Of course the only issue is continuity again; which final levels happened and which didn't.

Speaking of that, Crimson, it's been established that to unlock the Wei, Wu, Shu, SW stories in WO2, their WO1 counterparts need to be beaten, but what about Orochi's WO2 prequel story? Is that already available at the get-go or not?
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Like I said earlier (although messily) You need to complete the respective Stage 8s of the other stories to get Orochi's story >_> They should've made that the first story mode playable IMO.

If I'm not wrong Yoshimoto appears in that tiny stage in one of the Wu gaidens right? Let's see what happens to him...
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Really? Hmm, guess I didn't notice that then. So that means you need to beat Shu, Wei, Wu and SW-8? Or does that include Shu, Wei, Wu, and SW-16 as well?

I agree, Orochi's story should have been the only one available at the start. Only by completing that should the WO1 stories be available.

Yoshi did appear in the Wu Wan Castle gaiden as a helpless guy. He was also the mastermind of Shingen and Kenshin's picner attack in the Wei Saika Village gaiden and unlockable there.

Using the info here, I plan to add all these stuff to the MOZ cheats section on gamefaqs. Is that OK?
Edited by Xalfrea, Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:59 pm.
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yes,the wan castle,funny stage,very useful for weapon farming

kunoichi:emo hanzo! whadya doin here?!
hanzo:assssissst meeeeee!
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XD

BUT I WANT THE CREDITS!I DID IT ALL GODDAMNIT
Go ahead :lol: I've done my part here :P Just ask if you need anything else :)

I'll just make an FAQ of the changes from MO and MO:MS ;) ...and quickly make the FAQ for Orochi >_>
Edited by Crimsondramon, Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:14 pm.
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OK. Let's see...

1. How do you unlock the 2nd, 3rd and 4th costumes?
2. Are the requirements to unlcock the characters the same methods as they are in the previous 2 WO's? If that's the case, I might as well just copy and paste from their own cheat pages.
3. Which characters are available when you turn on the game for the first time?
4. 4th weapon requirements are still the same right?
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1. 2nd is already unlocked as you get the character. 3rd costume requires 10 proficiencies. 4th requires 20.

2. From what I've seen so far, yep. Except! To get the starting characters for the WO2 stories, you must clear the respective 8th story for that story. (Like to get Sakon, Musashi, Guan Ping and Huang Zhong for SW WO2 Story (aka SW-9), you must clear SW WO2's final stage (aka SW-8) )

3. Zhao Yun, Xing Cai, Shimazu Yoshihiro, Sun Ce, Tokugawa Ieyasu, Hattori Hanzo, Cao Pi, Zhang Liao (?), Xu Huang, Oda Nobunaga, Akechi Mitsuhide, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Benkei (Just Benkei, no surnames or whatsoever), Sanzang Fashi

(In short, whatever you started with in WO+Benkei and Sanzang Fashi)

4. Yes.

Dont' put the ingredients though, some of them are scattered in WO stages and I don't know the requirements yet.
Edited by Crimsondramon, Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:32 pm.
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4th weapon req?doesnt its always "play hard or chaos and get it randomly"?,easies weapon farming in all musou game history IMO,sans gundam musou 2 of course>.<
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Alright, thanks a bunch! Adding away!

Only thing left now is Dream stage unlocking. They're exact method of unlocking is still unknown.

Speaking of that, which dream stages are initially available?

Regarding 3, yep, I knew it, same as WO1. But let's say, to unlock Zhao Yun in the WO2 shu story, you need to beat Shu stage 2? And then after that he's available for Free mode play?

I assume just because you unlock a character in WO1 doesn't mean it's available in WO2?

Also, I just remembered, the WO1 Gaiden 8 requirements, are they still there?
Edited by Xalfrea, Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:39 pm.
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Just the second dream mode is available (Three unifiers of Japan), and those 3 characters are unlocked initially so that could be the method of unlocking.

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Regarding 3, yep, I knew it, same as WO1. But let's say, to unlock Zhao Yun in the WO2 shu story, you need to beat Shu stage 2? And then after that he's available for Free mode play?

I assume just because you unlock a character in WO1 doesn't mean it's available in WO2?

For free mode play, it seems you just need to unlock the character from either story method to use them.

You are correct about the WO-WO2 unlocking. You have to get the character unlocked they way he should in WO2 to use him, though once you clear a WO/WO2 story mode, all characters you have in free mode is available to use. Weird unlock system :wacko:

EDIT: It should be. I got 1000 kills in SW-7 though 1000 is waaay too easy to get in WOZ so I'll need to reconfirm that :)
Edited by Crimsondramon, Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:43 pm.
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I cant wait to see how they'll work Cao Pi in the english version, considering he had two different VA's for WO1 & WO2. :ph43r:
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OK, alright then. I'll add them all later. Won't do the ingredients or the new Dream Mode stages yet because I think those ones require something more besides simple unlocking of characters.

What a whacked up unlocking system it is indeed.

But regarding the dream stage unlocking. I guess we can only confirm until you or someone else on here plays the rest of the WO1 stories. But the whole "Unlocking them once" may be it. It does apply for free mode after all, so perhaps it can apply for Dream Mode as well?
Edited by Xalfrea, Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:03 pm.
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I noticed that the clothing is more free now :lol: They seems to fly in direction now :D Kotaro's hair does xD Something minor but it's nice to know they did something :)
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Hmm...

You know, if you can use any character in the WO1 portion you want after clearing any story, then there really is no point in unlocking characters via gaidens, because the moment you start going through the WO2 story, they will be unlocked anyway.

Especially for Lu Bu, Tadakatsu, Orochi and Da Ji. WO1 required you to go through a lot to get them, but now with WO2 in the mix, you can just skip that.

Lu Bu-would be unlocked if you clear Wu-16: Chi Bi
Tadakatsu would be unlocked if you clear Shu-8: Koshi Castle
Orochi and Da Ji would be unlocked if you clear Shu, Wei, Wu and SW-8.
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I guess no one hasn't unlocked Gyuki and Dodomekki yet? I'd like to know did KOEI make any changes to their movesets. In WO2 their S strings were short and they only had 4 Charge attacks: JC, C1, C2 and C3.
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Hmm...

You know, if you can use any character in the WO1 portion you want after clearing any story, then there really is no point in unlocking characters via gaidens, because the moment you start going through the WO2 story, they will be unlocked anyway.

Especially for Lu Bu, Tadakatsu, Orochi and Da Ji. WO1 required you to go through a lot to get them, but now with WO2 in the mix, you can just skip that.

Lu Bu-would be unlocked if you clear Wu-16: Chi Bi
Tadakatsu would be unlocked if you clear Shu-8: Koshi Castle
Orochi and Da Ji would be unlocked if you clear Shu, Wei, Wu and SW-8.
Ya xD Though Lu Bu can be unlocked just be beating him in all the stories no? That shouldn't be hard. Though I'm going to be lazy and clear Shu to get Honda :hehe:

@LoW: It's the same method as before, though I still have no idea how to unlock the ingredients >_> if not I could have Dodomeki by now.

Also guess what? Strike two of laziness. THEY REMOVED THE FRIKKING INTERACTIVE CUTSCENE :realangry: :realangry: :realangry: :realangry:
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Hmm...

You know, if you can use any character in the WO1 portion you want after clearing any story, then there really is no point in unlocking characters via gaidens, because the moment you start going through the WO2 story, they will be unlocked anyway.

Especially for Lu Bu, Tadakatsu, Orochi and Da Ji. WO1 required you to go through a lot to get them, but now with WO2 in the mix, you can just skip that.

Lu Bu-would be unlocked if you clear Wu-16: Chi Bi
Tadakatsu would be unlocked if you clear Shu-8: Koshi Castle
Orochi and Da Ji would be unlocked if you clear Shu, Wei, Wu and SW-8.
Ya xD Though Lu Bu can be unlocked just be beating him in all the stories no? That shouldn't be hard. Though I'm going to be lazy and clear Shu to get Honda :hehe:

@LoW: It's the same method as before, though I still have no idea how to unlock the ingredients >_> if not I could have Dodomeki by now.

Also guess what? Strike two of laziness. THEY REMOVED THE FRIKKING INTERACTIVE CUTSCENE :realangry: :realangry: :realangry: :realangry:
Well, that would mean having to unlock the -8X stages. Wu's especially was a huge pain to unlock.

So wait, the ingredients are spread out even into the WO1 stages as well?

Pah, well, so much for WO2 and Z characters interation then.
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Yup, very few though. Maybe half in WO and the other in WO2.

At least Yoshimoto is still in the Wu 4-X battle...
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Which interactive cutscenes? ALL OF THEM? :crazy:
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