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Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only)
Topic Started: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:26 pm (6,951 Views)
Master Sima Yi
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It's the most logical to have another Chinese character.

And Orochi Z... would that fit in with the storyline? Orochi dies, then he is revived, then dies, and you want him to be revived again so he could be Orochi Z? If you think the name of the game has any influence on Orochi himself, why wasn't Warriors Orochi 2 called Warriors Orochi X then? (no offense)
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:32 pm
It's the most logical to have another Chinese character.

And Orochi Z... would that fit in with the storyline? Orochi dies, then he is revived, then dies, and you want him to be revived again so he could be Orochi Z? If you think the name of the game has any influence on Orochi himself, why wasn't Warriors Orochi 2 called Warriors Orochi X then? (no offense)
Yeah i agree if there was a third Orochi this would be A Direct multiplatform Sequal instead of a fusion of 2 Previous games On just one console.

So just think of this as WOXL basically except the XL has been replaced by a Z.
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who's saying that there is AN Orochi Z~i mean as a character? perhaps it's just the name of the game, and all the extra levels and characters do is wrap up the storylines and fix some of the plot holes. as far as i have heard/read there are two additional characters period, not two AND a super special guest.
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Orochi Z as in new orochi. I never said he will be called that. ;)
There is Orochi is Warriors Orochi and Orochi X in Warriors Orochi 2 so now Orochi Z might have new version of Orochi.
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i wish i had a PS3, i would buy it, but i want DW6 Zhao Yun costume and some other DW6 cotumes
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Well...they could ad a 1/1 "Musha" Gundam. Just treat it like how you treat mobile armors in Gundam Musou 2 or like certain bosses shown in Strikeforce: Super Big and harder than normal bosses.

Even how they did Devil (Dark) Gundam in Gundam Musou 2 with the heads and such, they could make the "real" Orochi with full 8-Headed Dragon Creature, then you might have the excuse to finally bring Susano-o in

And if they update all DW charcacters to DW6, hopefully also at least costume changes for the ommitted charaters: Jiang Wei, Xing Cai, Pang De, Da Qiao, Meng Huo, Zhu Rong
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:12 pm
Orochi Z as in new orochi. I never said he will be called that. ;)
There is Orochi is Warriors Orochi and Orochi X in Warriors Orochi 2 so now Orochi Z might have new version of Orochi.
so...what you are saying is that you think the last character is Orochi Z? i just don't see that.

from what i read it appears that this is just summing up the series, i don't believe there going to be any new storyline or extensions, just a wrapping up/sortingout/explaining of everything that occurred in the first two.

i'll say it now, i don't think there is going to be an Orochi Z character. i don't mind being wrong, but i don't.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:12 pm
Orochi Z as in new orochi. I never said he will be called that. ;)
There is Orochi is Warriors Orochi and Orochi X in Warriors Orochi 2 so now Orochi Z might have new version of Orochi.
As it features both games id say there will only be Orochi and Orochi X - THREE playable versions of the same guy would be extremely lazy on the part of KOEI.

The new battles intreague me - they will be there to add background to the two new characters and maybe those Orochi officers who were available in Vs mode in WO2 (i guess they could also be playable in story though not as such "new" like the other 2). I hope these battles also add depth to some of the other characters like Yoshimoto, Ma Chao and Toshiie Maeda as well - it all depends on what point in the story that these battles take place, id wager at least a couple covering between WO and WO2.

As for all the sarcy remarks aimed at the critics of it being exclusive from some here try and see it from our side - 2 full price games released and payed for by us already enjoying the series despite the initial shocking amount of slowdown we find that theyve tinkered some more and releasing a more polished graphically, more enchanced version of the series with extras featuring both games for a single retail game price - that does not amuse :realangry:

If i was to get these extras eventually i wouldnt complain really - for example did the likes of me in the UK get to play DW6 Special for the 360...nope, but still can i get the chance to see these new maps and decloned characters now via DW6 Empires for the 360 - yes indeed. With this however unlike DW, SW or Gundam im not convinced the series will be expanded - like it or lump it these extras have been made exclusive at a thanks to PS3 owners who have contributed not an iota of there finance to the series where as those of PS2 and 360 have only to be the ones left with the lesser game(s)

This is only a fan service to a select portion of there fans (PS2 must surely be responsible for the bulk of the fan base KOEI have and 360 the western KOEI market majority). I feel let down, only as this has already happened with GUNDAM and DW Special already - releasing titles for some but not all platforms makes no sense (PS3 for example were completely ommited till now on the series i presume only as a result of blu-ray technology being less straight forward to port to than the PS2 and 360). Lets face it being a 360 owner and in europe im getting less and less chance to enjoy these games and certianly less chance than the much better favoured US and Asian market :hmmm:
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:12 pm
Orochi Z as in new orochi. I never said he will be called that. ;)
There is Orochi is Warriors Orochi and Orochi X in Warriors Orochi 2 so now Orochi Z might have new version of Orochi.
So you think there will be an Orochi Z because there is an Orochi X? But what you fail to relize is that an Orochi X means nothing to the makers of this game as that was the English version name. He was Shin Orochi in JP, Orochi Z might make sence to when it is translated to English but not as a JP name. So obviously if there was another Orochi added to the game he wouldnt be called Orochi Z for the JP version, so why would the game be called Orochi Z then? anwser: is that the title obviously has nothing to do with there being a new Orochi.

Besides this game combines WO1 and WO2, there is not a 3rd part to the game, so obivously another Orochi wouldnt make sence.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:33 pm
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:12 pm
Orochi Z as in new orochi. I never said he will be called that. ;)
There is Orochi is Warriors Orochi and Orochi X in Warriors Orochi 2 so now Orochi Z might have new version of Orochi.
As it features both games id say there will only be Orochi and Orochi X - THREE playable versions of the same guy would be extremely lazy on the part of KOEI.

The new battles intreague me - they will be there to add background to the two new characters and maybe those Orochi officers who were available in Vs mode in WO2 (i guess they could also be playable in story though not as such "new" like the other 2). I hope these battles also add depth to some of the other characters like Yoshimoto, Ma Chao and Toshiie Maeda as well - it all depends on what point in the story that these battles take place, id wager at least a couple covering between WO and WO2.

As for all the sarcy remarks aimed at the critics of it being exclusive from some here try and see it from our side - 2 full price games released and payed for by us already enjoying the series despite the initial shocking amount of slowdown we find that theyve tinkered some more and releasing a more polished graphically, more enchanced version of the series with extras featuring both games for a single retail game price - that does not amuse :realangry:

If i was to get these extras eventually i wouldnt complain really - for example did the likes of me in the UK get to play DW6 Special for the 360...nope, but still can i get the chance to see these new maps and decloned characters now via DW6 Empires for the 360 - yes indeed. With this however unlike DW, SW or Gundam im not convinced the series will be expanded - like it or lump it these extras have been made exclusive at a thanks to PS3 owners who have contributed not an iota of there finance to the series where as those of PS2 and 360 have only to be the ones left with the lesser game(s)

This is only a fan service to a select portion of there fans (PS2 must surely be responsible for the bulk of the fan base KOEI have and 360 the western KOEI market majority). I feel let down, only as this has already happened with GUNDAM and DW Special already - releasing titles for some but not all platforms makes no sense (PS3 for example were completely ommited till now on the series i presume only as a result of blu-ray technology being less straight forward to port to than the PS2 and 360). Lets face it being a 360 owner and in europe im getting less and less chance to enjoy these games and certianly less chance than the much better favoured US and Asian market :hmmm:
That pretty much sums it all into one.

This game is so KOEI can get profit from the PS3 market, plain and simple. Personally i believe the Next-gen consoles have made gaming incredibly unpleasent than it use to be. Atleast with a PS2, Xbox and gamecube, the majority of games were available on all platforms, now with Downloadable Content, Motion-sensor controls and internet connection added exclusively to each console, you can't enjoy ALL the games you use to unless you have every next-gen console in your house.

Still for PS3 owners this should be a enjoyable experience, but ONLY for PS3 owners. (Unless they really think they could get profitable sales from the X360, which is very unlikely.)
A new Orochi seems unlikely unless Koei will make new Orochis for each new Orochi game.
THe Best part about OW games is that you can play with other figures from history and mythology, like FuXi, NuWa and Yoshitsune, if they could expand that onto the series, I could a great gamining experience, it's not like China or Japan have ever been short on great characters.
Edited by Peace-and-War, Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:22 pm.
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Well, even though it seems like Koei is only releasing one more character other than Benkei, and it's highly possible that the other character will be from Chinese history, it would be really awesome if they added Kagekiyo Taira. Or maybe even Chinese/Japanese mythology characters.
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They say this game will come out on March for Japan? when will SW3 come out?
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:57 pm
They say this game will come out on March for Japan? when will SW3 come out?
no date or information about the release of SW3 presently. the four character shots and video trailer were the last things we saw back in Oct./Nov., i don't expect to see/hear anything about SW3 until after the current set of releases(Gundam 2/SF/DW6:E) in Q1/Q2. i feel like it's going to to have a Q4 2009/Q1 2010 release date, but that's just me. you may check the SW3 threads for further info.

and just to clarify, none of what i said above is fact. it's just an informed opinion based on things i'm hearing.
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is it just me? i'm tire of the same old warriors orochi games. i love the first one, but the second one wasn't that impressive. they just added more characters. why can't koei just finish up SW3, and then add DW6, finish all of it with a NEW warriors orochi? oh, and instead of putting orochi, they can just make a new villian. like a ninetails fox. WARRIORS KITSUNE!!! :lol: i'll buy that
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:52 am
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:32 am
Hmm, Everyone's bound to buy this if they have a PS3. Everyone meaning in this forum. And, this is a step to the future of Koei.
reeeaaalllyyy? i'm not a huge fan of the WO franchise, and not really that big on Benkei, so unless the last character is female, one of the JTTW characters, or the new scenarios feature one of my neglected favorites, i probably won't buy this either. i have both WO and WO2 AND a 60GB BW compatible PS3, so i have no need of this for a couple of stages with 2 new characters i just don't care about.

and another curious question? why is this a rehash of two games that have been out for several years more of a step forward than Gundam 2, StrikeForce, or DW6 Empires? all of which have something NEW and different to recommend them? not slagging you or your opinion, but i don't get any of your points. i'm not trying to provoke you LS, just encourage discussion in a thread that's already gone bland in a couple of days.
*laughing idly* i've never quoted myself before, but this thread is just becoming a rehash. i said THIS four pages ago. until we get some new info i think i'm going to demure comment in this particular thread, it's not productive.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:52 am

until we get some new info i think i'm going to demure comment in this particular thread, it's not productive.
what does demure mean?

WOZ doesn't have enough new stuff.. i hope koei's got something up their sleeves, or else, it won't be that great.....
to have the same character style i so damn koeish..
sun tzu would be a nice add, like susanoo i hoped for them for WO2, now maybe the time has come!
the new plot could be an orochix story mode, telling how in his 2nd advent he conquers the world, dying of boredom soonafter. or a caw mode where you lead wei to the shodown against the oda clan!
anywas there must be more than 2 new chars.. i mean 2? you call this effort? whatever...
Edited by Aygor, Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:17 pm.
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So is it just WO1 and WO2 with some additional features?
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Even how they did Devil (Dark) Gundam in Gundam Musou 2 with the heads and such, they could make the "real" Orochi with full 8-Headed Dragon Creature, then you might have the excuse to finally bring Susano-o in
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I agree your Idea. I think, your Idea is one of the best idea here in the "Musou Orochi Z" Topic.

I think, if KOEI make "Orochi" as a character, he can transform in a 8-headed Dragon Creature (similar to the Devil Gundam in Gundam Musou 2), then is the Character "Orochi" much more interesting, and then is the game "Warriors Orochi Z" much much more interesting!!!

KEOI can make develop the Character "Orochi" or "Shin Orochi" or "Orochi X" or "Orochi Z" in "Warriors Orochi Z" similar in the game "Strikeforce" as a transformate Character. Then you can transform the Character (in the game, while you playing) in a 8-headed Dragon Creature. I think, then is the game "Musou Orochi Z" much much more interesting!

And, also if you fight with (the opponent) "Shin Orochi" or "Orochi X", he must also can transform in a 8-headed Dragon Creature. I think, then is the game much more interesting.

If this idea fails, (if the idea about the transformation fails), then KOEI can make the character "Orochi", or the character "Shin Orochi" or "Orochi X" or "Orochi Z" directly as a 8-headed Dragon Creature. This is also good.

But, KOEI should do it! This is a very interesting idea! And, this is very good for the game "Warriors Orochi Z" (Musou Orochi Z) !!!!




Edited by Andreas-andi, Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:16 am.
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If they are smashing both games together, are they going to replace the generics-to-SW2XL characters in WO1? For example, Toshiie as a generic had some minor significance to at least one stage in WO1, I wonder if they'll retroactively put the SW2XL version in that stage?
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:17 am
Sorry I say Ryu Hayabusa......and I did say that I dont have the authority saying who will appear as japanese chracter so therefore I dont DARE to say who will appear.....but as I know that Ryu Hayabusa is not HISTORY NOR MYTH NOR LEGEND CHRACTER.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryu_Hayabusa

I can not speak english well. Ok. Ryu Hayabusa is not in the History.

But, now, I want the Japan History Character "Taira no Kagekiyo" in "Warriors Orochi Z" (Musou Orochi Z).
Because, he is a important, mysterious, strong and cool Samurai in the Japan History!

Here are more Videos about "Taira no Kagekiyo":
1- http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=6TY8cXiJv2U&feature=related
2- http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZZUsMkqYKY&feature=related
3- http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=HI77ciwhZFk&feature=related
4- http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=f8PTUTw43rE

He is very very cool and very strong! He has very very long black hair, looks very cool! And, he has a red-black cool Costume!
I think, this character is one of the mysterious and one of the coolest character in the Japan History!

I want (would) absolutely this cool character "Taira no Kagekiyo" in "Warriors Orochi Z" !

KOEI can make develop this character and his outfit similar in the game "Genji" (similar in the Video of Youtube), similar with very long black hair, and similar with red-black Costume. Then is the Character "Taira no Kagekiyo" very very interesting in the game "Warriors Orochi Z"!

I think, this is a very good idea!
And, I think, then is the game "Warriors Orochi Z" much more interesting. Because, "Taira no Kagekiyo" is a important, mysterious, strong and cool Samurai in the Japan History!


EDIT:

I have found the images of "Taira no Kagekiyo" on Koeiwarriors.co.uk.
Here are the images of "Taira no Kagekiyo" on Koeiwarriors.co.uk:
1- http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/wallpapers/g2/004-1.jpg
2- http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/wallpapers/g2/004-2.jpg

He is very very cool and very mysterious!



Edited by Andreas-andi, Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:02 am.
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Maybe Koei will give use a evil Chinese God to join with Orochi.
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as much as im looking forward to being able to play as some new characters, and finally play as dodomeki and gyuki in story/free modes... im going to be disgusted at having to collect the treasures ALL OVER AGAIN!

oh god... that is going to be a pain in the ass.

Edit: also, concerning the second new character... i wonder if it'll be sun tzu... or maybe one of sun wukong's "brothers", zhu bajie or sha wujing?
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:32 am.
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:28 am
as much as im looking forward to being able to play as some new characters, and finally play as dodomeki and gyuki in story/free modes... im going to be disgusted at having to collect the treasures ALL OVER AGAIN!

oh god... that is going to be a pain in the ass.

Edit: also, concerning the second new character... i wonder if it'll be sun tzu... or maybe one of sun wukong's "brothers", zhu bajie or sha wujing?
just go to GameFaqs to get the gamesave for it. And I'd be satisfied with the whole thing if they put in Shi Huangdi, but what would his weapon be?...hmm :huh: :wacko:
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Have him summon terracotta soldiers for all of his attacks? :lol:
I'm interested in the new story mode stages. More spotlight for more characters!
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Have him summon terracotta soldiers for all of his attacks? :lol:
I'm interested in the new story mode stages. More spotlight for more characters!
Hmm, that'd be pretty hard to make it work in the leveled weapon system. And yeah. Hopefully ^_^
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