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| Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only) | |
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| T.e.n | Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:10 am Post #376 |
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Well, not nessecarilly - not if he treats the soldiers as Himiko treats her lasers. ![]() That being said, Shi Huangdi isn't the most appropriate addition. Considering Benkei's add, the new character is probably going to be a character related to Sun Wukong in some fashion - either Erlang Shen or even Prince Siddhattha himself. |
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| Master Sima Yi | Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:19 am Post #377 |
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Well, I don't see Wukong in any need of a comrade. I don't know how one of them would fit in with the storyline though. Also, Qin Shi Huang deserves to be in the game more I think, than one of the more-in-the-background characters from JTTW. |
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| Xalfrea | Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:20 am Post #378 |
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I forsee it will come out on the PC. I held off on PC WO releases because I have the PS2, but in this case... |
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| Master Sima Yi | Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:22 am Post #379 |
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Well, I think they will first release WO2 on PC, and about a year after they will release WOZ PC, and hope for people stupid enough to buy it, so they can have more money.
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| StrikeForce9 | Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:37 am Post #380 |
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Hmm... I beg the difference! Don't forget that WOZ isn't an expansion or a sequel to WO2. It's a special edition for the PS3 with both games and extra content. If Erlang Shen was added to the game, the story would be more interesting and it wouldn't expand on the story further but rather explain the original plot. The addition of Erlang Shen, could explain how Sun Wukong joined Kiyomori and Erlang Shen was sent to capture Sun Wukong and return him back to the mystic realm. In order to that he must aid the Warriors and the three mystics. Qin Shi Huang would be good as well but his presence would feel out of place since he had nothing to do with the original plot at all. I think the reason Benkei is included because of Yoshitsune. The 2nd new character should be related to one of the new characters from WO2 which I strongly feel it's Wukong. Edited by StrikeForce9, Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:40 am.
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| monstergundam | Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:48 am Post #381 |
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Well for those that also play SRW: I think of it this way: SRW Original Generation 1 and 2 for GBA came, then a remake for the PS2 using both games main story, with upgraded graphics, slightly altered story, and extra content including some new characters that were fit in story. It could be not just a graphical update, but it could be even a story update. WO2 Orochi Faction was covered before WO1, maybe they can have an extensive Orochi faction during WO2 where you can play Orochi, Da Ji, Sun Wukong, Himeko, Taira no Kiyomori as starting characters. Then maybe they could explain the blank that is between WO1 and WO2, as in the reshuffling of alliances, and HOPEFULLY more movies! But at least, now all characters are in HD and will look like DW6-quality onscreen characters |
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| Master Sima Yi | Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:18 am Post #382 |
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I didn't say there was going to be a different storyline, I said FIT IN with the storyline. And Qin Shi Huang could also be a servant of Orochi put in in some battles. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:00 pm Post #383 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang For those who donīt know him. He would be a very good choice and he fits in the storyline. They could portray him as an evil character, just like Orochi, giving him his own army(they just have to change the textures of the allready made human soldiers and make them a bit stronger on the defensive side) Qin Shi Huang could be tricked by Orochi telling him something like he knows where the elixir of life can be found but the allied forces opposing him wonīt let him get there, or he had the elixir of life but it was stolen by the allied forces, making Qin Shi Huang and his Terracotta Army fighting with or for Orochi. There could then be a stage were he finds out the lie and you have a three army situation now facing him and Orochi. Also it seems KOEI thought about him, or at least his Terracotta army: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=szvK2vpoj-U But there are other characters they could add too.....I would like to see him
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| Master Sima Yi | Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:45 pm Post #384 |
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I totally forgot about Liu Bang and Xiang Yu... though they have absolutely nothing to do with the storyline, I would like them in a WO game.
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| Young Phoenix | Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:21 pm Post #385 |
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Thats AWESOME!!!A good idea with the stages from WO und WO2 XD |
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| Master Sima Yi | Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:30 pm Post #386 |
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So... do you guys think this will come out end 2009 again just like the other WO games? |
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| Xalfrea | Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:34 pm Post #387 |
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That's still up in the air. If the localization team will just literally take everything from both WO's and modifying a few stuff here and there, then no, at least not as long as it normally takes. Of course it depends on how much MOZ itself will be different. |
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| T.e.n | Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:38 pm Post #388 |
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It would be pretty funny if they couldn't hire some of the same voice actors for this instalment - that means that in WO2, characters like Xiahou Yuan could have 3 voices!
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:45 pm Post #389 |
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My guess is around April/May. It will come out really soon, at least thatīs what I hope. Wasnīt the first WO released around late March in Japan and the rest of the world got it around September? I donīt think it will take them that long this time....again, I hope.
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| T.e.n | Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:00 pm Post #390 |
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Considering the amount of original dialogue that needed to translated and recorded, that's not exactly a long time at all! Unlike other companies, KOEI doesn't develop the NA & EU localizations alongside the JP version.That being said, this localization will probably take less time - it depends on how much original content there is (and I doubt that they'd add enough original content that it adds up to the equivalent of an entire game). Edited by T.e.n, Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:01 pm.
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| LittleDragonZ | Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:07 pm Post #391 |
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It wouldn't shock me if it was a Sept 2009 date. The last two games have been. Koei has been doing well with the localization length lately. |
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| Raiko Z | Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:08 pm Post #392 |
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I think they will just merge the 2 stories and change the narration. Besides, the fresh new scenario could be the success of Shin Orochi's story to kill all the anti-orochi armies including Nu Wa, Taigong Wang, and Fu Xi. |
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| foomin | Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:41 pm Post #393 |
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i was going to say Q3 2009 for a release date myself. they've got their hands full at the moment, and i still expect to see a DW6:XL announcement before the end of Q3. again, this is just informed supposition on my part. |
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| Hiyoshi Hidemasa | Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:17 pm Post #394 |
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A new game! That's awesome. I hope they use Dynasty Warriors 6 and Samurai Warriors 3 costumes. I just hope some There will be no cloned movesets in Warriors Orochi Z.
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| foomin | Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:03 pm Post #395 |
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just to let you know, this is NOT a new Orochi game. it's a combination of WO & WO2 for the PS3 with two new characters and some new levels. there is little chance that the DW6 models will be in this, and even less chance for the SW3 models, as this will come out out long before SW3. that's a summary of what's going on in this thread, please go back and start at the begining if you wish to get all the info. |
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| Master Sima Yi | Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:19 pm Post #396 |
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There was already a scan which showed the Dynasty Warriors 5 and Samurai Warriors 2 designs. |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:56 pm Post #397 |
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Well and thatīs not even that much of a letdown, since I kinda wanted to have all the characters together on a next Gen console(finally I get it for the PS3) For example I want to play as Jiang Wei or Pang De again, wanna run around with Gan Ning, slicing up people...itīs a nice thing(again for people with a PS3) to play all the old characters before DW7 and SW3. Well plus the new ones I wonder, if the arena fighting mode returns in WO3...how are they going to handle that with the renbu system? |
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| foomin | Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:00 pm Post #398 |
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i suppose that the DW6 models COULD be included(like the three SF characters in WO2 PSP) as alt costumes, but that would be alot of work...i doubt it'll happen. then KOEI'd have to add all the SW1 alts, and make a few unique ones again for the SW2/XL characters....NAH, won't happen. |
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| helliace | Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:07 pm Post #399 |
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Really? But I have to agree with him. At least selling PS2 to get PS3 is not very practical....... You also have to admit KOEI sucks now. Always giving the finger to fans of this series. Only thinking of money and without improvement (can't KOEI at least make some system changes like Dissidia!? Strikeforce might be a good start, but the worst is SSM5 design) Moushouden, Empires, Special, International, infinite porting... Open your eyes. Musou series is already dead. Edited by helliace, Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:18 pm.
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:54 pm Post #400 |
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The musou series is allready dead? Ok, off-topic: They said Orochi was dead, but hey he got back in WO2. They said Osama Bin Laden was dead, but hey he made another home made video(well itīs quite now, but who knows) They even thought Britney Spears was dead and now sheīs having one hell of a comeback....ahm...sadly.... The point is what makes you so sure itīs dead? I play DW since the second game and damn, I will play it till the 20th game. I was really dissapointed about no WO2 release for PS3, since I selled my PS2 to get it(I donīt need it anymore...thatīs what I thought back then) and then I couldnīt play it. Now I get the first one with better graphics and more content, the second one with better graphics and more content and thatīs a reason why itīs dead? I would pay 70 bucks for it, but hey it costs 60. And whatīs without improvement? To remind you, in WO2 they added the VS mode and on the Wii they tried some new system. Well, the whole Wii thing failed. You know why? Cause the old system is still fun. They donīt need to change like FF, from an epic RPG, to a game were you fly around and beat crap out of each other(still Dissidia=awesome) But you know what? They do it. With Strikeforce. Theyīve done it. With the VS mode in WO2 for variety. They tried it. With Samurai Warriors:Katana. They still improve and try new things, sometimes they arenīt as epic as Dissidia, but thatīs the way it worked a long time. Oh and BTW, Dissidia is not improvement, itīs a whole new game. FFXIII is still going to be a game were you around around, fight enemys with selecting attack in the menu, getting EXPs and level up. And that hasnīt changed since FF. FF changed itīs fighting system over the games and added or ereased some feteaures. Yeah, well. KOEI changed the fighting system too (to worse or better) with the renbu system in the next generation. Giving fans of the series the finger? They gave us, at the end of the last generation, a game that was fan service pure(WO). And gave PS2 gamers some good games like SW2:XL, WO2 and DW6:S while some say, just ignore those last gen players. They support their fans, even if KOEI is lazy, even if they want to make money. Of course, just because itīs on the PS2,or a port for a next gen cosole doesnīt mean they should pay some random guy to walk down streets and hand it over for free. They donīt give us the finger, they give us what some of us want. Sorry to bust it out like that, it does not suck. Musou/Warriors games are not dead. Iīm not the type to defend KOEI normally, cause they make/have made some minor mistakes, but at least they make up for it somehow. Iīm glad they made WOZ, and if you donīt want it, than damn, donīt buy it. If itīs too expensive, wait for a price drop, if youīve allready played it, well, good for you. They couldīve just updated the graphics and sell WO2 for 30$, but no, they give us ONE AND TWO with updated graphics + 2 New characters, new features and new stages/stories. I will gladly pay 60 bucks for it. Isnīt that enough? Isnīt that enough fan service? Isnīt that a sign that itīs not dead? Yes it is. At least thatīs what I think and I will have a lot of fun trying out Benkei even if he turns out to be a failure. And by the way, why do you think they make Empires, Specials, Xtreme Legends, expansions, ports.... News Flash: People buy it. Now insult those people who give KOEI money for a dead series and still have fun with it. /Off topic rant Sorry for that, but this had to be said.
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