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Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only)
Topic Started: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:26 pm (6,805 Views)
TheBritishTeapot
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Jasonic
Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:27 pm
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Musashi-Miyamoto
Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:22 pm
There was an update for the game today, version 2.00. Does anyone know what this addressed? It was written in Japanese which I can't read sadly.
Update? Hopefully it'll fix the costume error thing.
First off, that is not an error :rolleyes: its just how it is.
Either you didn't read the whole thread and just skimmed through it or it slipped your mind, I suggest you re-read cause someone said you can get other costumes but it reverts back to your first one and that is a error.

Regardless of it being a "error" or not it should be addressed, not because you say it ain't a "error" we should be entitled to use all costumes in 2player/whatever.
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Musashi-Miyamoto
Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:22 pm
There was an update for the game today, version 2.00. Does anyone know what this addressed? It was written in Japanese which I can't read sadly.
Update? Hopefully it'll fix the costume error thing.
First off, that is not an error :rolleyes: its just how it is.
Either you didn't read the whole thread and just skimmed through it or it slipped your mind, I suggest you re-read cause someone said you can get other costumes but it reverts back to your first one and that is a error.

Regardless of it being a "error" or not it should be addressed, not because you say it ain't a "error" we should be entitled to use all costumes in 2player/whatever.
It's not an error, it's how it is if I understand correctly! When you play 2 players you can't choose costumes! You just can't! Correct me if I'm wrong!
Edited by StrikeForce9, Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:08 pm.
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Bern
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The day people wish not being able to select costumes in 2 player is an error, is the day the world ends... Oh, right.

Seriously, why are people so bothered about this? The costumes do not in any way affect the game, except for looking 'pretty'.

If you had a choice between fixing this 'costume error' or the whole Xu Zhu/Taishi Ci/Etc not stunning officers with their attacks, you'd choose the latter, because that's an actual gameplay problem. If you like the unselectable costumes better, then use them when you play on your own. 2 player isn't about costumes, it's about... Ugh, duh! Playing with a second person!

Bern, over and out.
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TheBritishTeapot
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...I was actually referring to the 'error' that someone said that costumes reset themselves when you try to get other ones...Not being able to pick them though it would be nice if you could pick them, sure they have no impact on gameplay but it's nice to add a touch of prettyness regardless. I honestly don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to pick them.

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It's not a huge deal, as I've said before but when 75% of the discussion about WOZ is about the costumes, not being able to pick which ones you use in 2P IS going to come up.

I mean, Sanzang and Benkei are new characters but they're tied into the new stages in Dream Mode which we've all sort of gone over several times...but everyone gets a new costume, even if it's just a pallet swap, so yeah it comes up.

I agree that I'd much rather have my stuns work though.

Also I was laughing the other day about all the people who were ticked off about SW2 (And Oichi and Masamune) just getting SW2:XL pallet swaps. They got new costumes for WO2! Rememmmmber? So they've already had their turn (Don't ask me why it took me so long to remember that XD).
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What Mei Mei means is after you've played 2 player (where you cannot select costumes) the costume that you were using in 1 player resets. As an example I was playing as Zhao Yun in his 4th (which looks awesome as we know) and I wanted to try and get some good weapons for a character (maybe Masamune) and once I started I was playing using his default costume.
So what Mei Mei means is that the costume you were using before resets itself instead of remembering the costume you used previously in 1 player.
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Bern
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What Mei Mei means is after you've played 2 player (where you cannot select costumes) the costume that you were using in 1 player resets. As an example I was playing as Zhao Yun in his 4th (which looks awesome as we know) and I wanted to try and get some good weapons for a character (maybe Masamune) and once I started I was playing using his default costume.
So what Mei Mei means is that the costume you were using before resets itself instead of remembering the costume you used previously in 1 player.
THAT'S the big costume error you're talking about? I don't see why people are even getting so worked up about it. I mean... That seems like something you can just, I dunno... Kind of solve yourself?
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I'm back from being knocked out by a newspaper !!! Anyways..... about the costumes . They may not seem like a big deal to you but Zhen Ji+4th costume=win :wub:
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kuni_izumi
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I just personally wouldn't call it an error.

Koei probably ran into the problem of if you use costume A or whatever, and player 2 uses costume B etc. What costumes do they use for the NPC generals? It was probably just LESS WORK to make 2P mode default to costumes 1 and 2, and Koei isn't exactly KNOWN for going above and beyond the call of duty. The whole Orochi series is nothing but a lot of what-ifs and cut corners. The WOZ isn't a polished piece of work shouldn't come as that much of a surprise.
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i think its a big enough deal to get upset over, some people like using the alternate outfits, even when playing with another person...

how is player 2 supposed to enjoy the new outfits? my friend was looking forward to playing as xiahou dun in his 4th outfit, but obviously, thats not possible...

you people should know by now, there are alot of different people in the world, they're not all like you!

they have different interests, personalities, etc... and different things attract people to games... so stop saying "its not a big deal" because to SOME people, it obviously IS a big freakin deal...

sorry if i sounded harsh, but im sick of people saying "its not a big deal" to those who its obviously having an effect on...

thats like telling someone who just lost an arm that it isnt a big deal, because its not effecting you... <_<
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:39 pm.
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:mellow: :mellow: :hmmm: :hmmm: :) :) :) ^_^ ^_^

So........ do you think they make Shin Orochi over dramatic?
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Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:38 pm
you people should know by now, there are alot of different people in the world, they're not all like you!

they have different interests, personalities, etc... and different things attract people to games... so stop saying "its not a big deal" because to SOME people, it obviously IS a big freakin deal...

sorry if i sounded harsh, but im sick of people saying "its not a big deal" to those who its obviously having an effect on...
Ironic, since you kinda say the characters faces that i mentioned wasn't such a big deal.

But yeah i totally agree with you.

Oh man, i can't wait for a Tenbu Gyuki video. :XD
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I think comparing losing and arm to being able to choose a costume in a video game is being a little over-dramatic.

Comparatively? I just don't see it as a big deal. And as you so APTLY pointed out, different things are important to different people. Obviously your freedom to choose though, wasn't that important to Koei. It's a little annoying to me but nothing EARTH SHATTERING. I've got more important things to flip **** over than video games just in general.
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You....just dissed a video game *hisses*

Let's just stop arguing about costumes, kaykay's?
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Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:01 pm
Oh man, i can't wait for a Tenbu Gyuki video. :XD
Did you even check the video thread? It's like it's there for nothing as hardly anyone pays attention to it.
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Eni I once saw a video on Nic Nico Douga of Gyuki with Tenbu, also in one on Wonderpierrot's most resent videos there is Tenbu-ised Gyuki.
I just found this: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6739080 It's all of the Shu characters in their 4th costumes.
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Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:30 pm
Also I was laughing the other day about all the people who were ticked off about SW2 (And Oichi and Masamune) just getting SW2:XL pallet swaps. They got new costumes for WO2! Rememmmmber? So they've already had their turn (Don't ask me why it took me so long to remember that XD).
But when you think about it, why would KOEI give us a second palette swap for the main default costume?

Take Ginchiyo Tachibana for example...

* She has her original SW2 default
* Her Musou Orochi exclusive palette swap on her default costume
* The new blue armor-less costume exclusive from Maou Sairin
* and now another palette swap brought back from SW2XL on her regular default costume

If you ask me, wouldn't it have been more appropriate to have a brand new palette swap made from her 3rd alt from WO2? Same goes for all the other SW2 new characters, Masamune, and Oichi.

Does anyone know the deal with Yoshimoto's original SW1 costume?

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Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:24 pm
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Oh man, i can't wait for a Tenbu Gyuki video. :XD
Did you even check the video thread? It's like it's there for nothing as hardly anyone pays attention to it.
Whoops! My apologies for that dumb mistake, i was in a rush while posting.

Thanks for telling me that! Must watch it now!
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What Mei Mei means is after you've played 2 player (where you cannot select costumes) the costume that you were using in 1 player resets. As an example I was playing as Zhao Yun in his 4th (which looks awesome as we know) and I wanted to try and get some good weapons for a character (maybe Masamune) and once I started I was playing using his default costume.
So what Mei Mei means is that the costume you were using before resets itself instead of remembering the costume you used previously in 1 player.
Well of cource it gets reset back to the default costume, because that is the last one you were using(since you had to use it with two player). That sounds like common sence to me, not an error. That is honestly the dumbest thing to whine about and one I wouldnt have noticed if you didnt point it out.
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Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:21 pm
But when you think about it, why would KOEI give us a second palette swap for the main default costume?

Take Ginchiyo Tachibana for example...

* She has her original SW2 default
* Her Musou Orochi exclusive palette swap on her default costume
* The new blue armor-less costume exclusive from Maou Sairin
* and now another palette swap brought back from SW2XL on her regular default costume

If you ask me, wouldn't it have been more appropriate to have a brand new palette swap made from her 3rd alt from WO2? Same goes for all the other SW2 new characters, Masamune, and Oichi.

Does anyone know the deal with Yoshimoto's original SW1 costume?

I suspect because it's less work. They already made WO exclusive pallet swaps last time, it's much easier to just port the entire costume/pallet swap from SW2 to make up for the fourth option.

I'm not saying Koei is LAZY (okay maybe I am, deal with it) but they are very BUSY, it makes sense to recycle material they already had. The DW4 costumes were recycled from previous games and no one complained about THAT.

Really I think it came down to a matter of convenience. What would take the least amount of work? And really, it's a very small percentage of the over-all characters who are just getting old pallet swaps.

Personally I don't even USE the pallet swaps if I can avoid it. Alternate costumes yes, but I've seen very few pallet swaps I've ever actually liked in the first place. A third swap for their SW costume or one swap for their Orochi exclusive costume--it's still a swap either way.

Edit: I mean, some color swaps are BRILLIANT the Zhao Yun/Yukimura swap was golden...but you will NEVER convince me that a blonde Zhou Yu is a good thing.
Edited by kuni_izumi, Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:29 pm.
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I gotta ask, which tracks are new in MOZ?

I mean, besides the very new ones like the Orochi theme and what not, I mean, the new tracks there were brought over from the past Koei games.
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I believe this are the few. These are all I can remember off the top of my head.
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Anyone mind guiding me on what kind of weapon attributes shd be put on slow hard hitters like Gyuki weapons? Does the slay(death element) get more chance for critical for slower chac?
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I'm unsure about it working better on slower characters, but I'd say that Slay is very important on weapons. Agility definitely because Gyuki's charge attacks being faster is good idea due to him attacking v-e-r-y slowly.
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Flash is important. Wouldn't want to have wasted so much time attacking just to get blocked( Unless you're using C1)
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