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Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only)
Topic Started: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:26 pm (6,941 Views)
Tesouken
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In history, would you guys think benkei wouldve been a real match for lu bu rather than honda?
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Well historically speaking, I don't even remember Lu Bu being that important, much less known as a great fighter. So I'd say Benkei might have been more than a match for him.
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Ya I think he is like Uesugi Kenshin which use cloth like that, but I don't like his sandals why koei did not make shoes for him? also with the giant hand, what wrong? we dont know too he fought in whose side? sengoku or orochi or new forces? with dramatic mode I am sure there is relation with his era lifetime if we see there are yoshitsune and kiyomori. Once more I predict he is power type character.
Edited by Ranmaru87, Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:20 pm.
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Ranmaru87
Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:19 pm
Ya I think he is like Uesugi Kenshin which use cloth like that, but I don't like his sandals why koei did not make shoes for him? also with the giant hand, what wrong? we dont know too he fought in whose side? sengoku or orochi or new forces? with dramatic mode I am sure there is relation with his era lifetime if we see there are yoshitsune and kiyomori. Once more I predict he is power type character.
It's already been confirmed that he's a power type. You can see so in the scan.
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What about Musou Orochi 1 Gaiden Stages??? Are they gonna be removed?

The quality is just same as X360 one...
Edited by Raiko Z, Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:58 pm.
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Why would they be removed? This game is WO1 + WO2 together so all stages should be available.

However, since this a combination, I'm curious to know what will happen to movesets. Are they going to use WO, WO2's or combine them somehow? Since if they use WO's, we get the cheap C1 attacks back. If it's WO2, shockwaves and ground shakers will keep elemental activation.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:58 pm
What about Musou Orochi 1 Gaiden Stages??? Are they gonna be removed?

The quality is just same as X360 one...
I see no reason why they would remove them. They are still in, I think.

And yeah, I said that too.

@LoW: they probably use everything from WO2 because it's the latest version of the WO series.
Edited by Master Sima Yi, Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:40 pm.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:58 pm
The quality is just same as X360 one...
Is not like they were bad or anything, but of course they'll add MOAR enemies on screen, which is win win.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:37 pm
However, since this a combination, I'm curious to know what will happen to movesets. Are they going to use WO, WO2's or combine them somehow? Since if they use WO's, we get the cheap C1 attacks back. If it's WO2, shockwaves and ground shakers will keep elemental activation.
I asked that same question as well ... It makes a big difference to some characters. I also wonder if they will make any tweaks to the movesets to try and balance them out further.
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I don't know about the balancing thing. I mean other than Almighty, the game was much better balanced than before. Though, I do hope that they keep that. I'll surely miss flying through stages with Ina if they take it away.
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Benkei's weapon does remind me a LOT of hideyoshi from the basara series. Not to mention both characters r big in body size.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:58 pm
I don't know about the balancing thing. I mean other than Almighty, the game was much better balanced than before. Though, I do hope that they keep that. I'll surely miss flying through stages with Ina if they take it away.
I really cannot ever understand why anyone would ever like flying trough stages, it completely evaporates the whole reason of playing a game, its mindless grinding and for what.. it doesnt even have interaction online to show your rediculous mountain of unlocks (items or levels alike doesnt matter, same idea) around to other players in the first place.
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now is it just me or does this new guy look similar to anna, peter griffin's robot character when he decided to make a broadway play for "the king and i"? XD i just thought they had some similarities
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:24 pm
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:58 pm
I don't know about the balancing thing. I mean other than Almighty, the game was much better balanced than before. Though, I do hope that they keep that. I'll surely miss flying through stages with Ina if they take it away.
I really cannot ever understand why anyone would ever like flying trough stages, it completely evaporates the whole reason of playing a game, its mindless grinding and for what.. it doesnt even have interaction online to show your rediculous mountain of unlocks (items or levels alike doesnt matter, same idea) around to other players in the first place.
Let him play the game like he wants to. Not everyone is the same. Everyone is different.
Edited by Master Sima Yi, Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:32 pm.
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Please don't let Benkei be in cohorts with DaJi and them..........please.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:47 pm
So, is anyone else getting the sense that the 12 new stages are simply Dream Mode stages (based on total Dream stages visible in scan), and that there really won't be any addition(s) to the storyline(s) from either WO or WO2?

yeah, i was thinking that as well after having seen those SS up close. so these new characters will only have whichever Dream stage they are in to establish themselves.

but that can't be right, unless Da Ji, Himiko and Benkei have a stage together. or Benkei just turns up in cutscenes, which would be really stupid.
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If they were to bring it stateside then no it wouldn't be wishful thinking, remember DW 6 was a PS3 exclusive in Japan before it came out in the U.S.
Edited by Lord_Redhand, Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:03 pm.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:59 pm
Mr.Honda
Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:47 pm
So, is anyone else getting the sense that the 12 new stages are simply Dream Mode stages (based on total Dream stages visible in scan), and that there really won't be any addition(s) to the storyline(s) from either WO or WO2?

yeah, i was thinking that as well after having seen those SS up close. so these new characters will only have whichever Dream stage they are in to establish themselves.

but that can't be right, unless Da Ji, Himiko and Benkei have a stage together. or Benkei just turns up in cutscenes, which would be really stupid.
I'm wondering if KOEI would add cutscenes based on different characters encountering each other during the battle (while playing through both stories).

If this were to happen, perhaps some of the missing plots could be explained in this way ... otherwise, we may just have to rely on the Dream Mode stages :/
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I would actually like Benkei to have a dream stage with Da Ji and Himiko,though it seems he already has one with Yoshitsune and Kiyomori.It'll be exciting looking at his moveset[...on YouTube...].Giant fist for the win.
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Okay, I know Iīm saying the same as ever, but has someone translated it? (Donīt need to know everything, just if thereīs something interesting)

And what about the number 90? We all know there are over 90 characters...thatīs nothing new isnīt it? Better would be 100 :rolleyes:

First, the graphics are on XBOX360 niveau, which is a good thing. If they add more characters on screen, make it "flowing", so no framerate drops...etc. The special effects seems to look a bit....more special :lol:
At least they glow more....thatīs good :XD

Wow...Benkei is awesome. I feared he was a cheap hammer movest knock-off.
It seems KOEI really put work into him and his design.

I wonder if the last character can top him :sly:

(BTW does anyone know how many POWER, SPEED and TECHNUIQUE characters there are? Is there a certain balance now? :unsure: )
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:21 pm
I would actually like Benkei to have a dream stage with Da Ji and Himiko,though it seems he already has one with Yoshitsune and Kiyomori.It'll be exciting looking at his moveset[...on YouTube...].Giant fist for the win.
i didn't mean that a Dream stage with Benkei, Da Ji and Himiko would be bad, just if that was the ONLY place he turned up, other than cutscenes? that might be a bit odd.

and Honda, yeah...i don't know? i hope these two characters are not just Easter Eggs, but i sure cannot figure out how they'll be done justice if they only get a Dream stage or two, and are not introduced into the storylines other than by the cutscenes...well, maybe that would'nt be THAT bad, it's WO after all and there's really not alot of character development for anyone.


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Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:27 pm
and Honda, yeah...i don't know? i hope these two characters are not just Easter Eggs, but i sure cannot figure out how they'll be done justice if they only get a Dream stage or two, and are not introduced into the storylines other than by the cutscenes...well, maybe that would'nt be THAT bad, it's WO after all and there's really not alot of character development for anyone.


^ Exactly. *cough*WOLiuBei*cough*

We might actually be looking at their only storyline involvement in the scan, who knows :unsure:

Now, does anyone have any guesses as to what Benkei does with that encased-in-a-wooden-box-Hulk-fist? He isn't just going to punch everyone is he? It almost looks like the mouth of a cannon in one of those screen shots ... (if this is already discussed/explained, please disregard)
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Well I'm more interested in what his attack chain will be,

We know Benkei is a power-type, but does he have normal moveset, charge, or special moveset...

If I recall correctly Yoshitsune is normal, and Kiyomori is charge, so Benkei could be a special moveset maybe....

The only precedent so far with fist weapons is Gracia, so that maybe the only thing that would be a mark against Benkei having a special moveset (for diferences) But I imagine his moveset with a lot of grabs oddly enuogh.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:03 pm
The only precedent so far with fist weapons is Gracia, so that maybe the only thing that would be a mark against Benkei having a special moveset (for diferences) But I imagine his moveset with a lot of grabs oddly enuogh.
and Meng Huo DW3-5, which is what that monstrous fist reminds me of. i see him more of a Meng Huo/Cao Ren Buckler blade type. smashing and shooting out fireballs or something.
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Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:43 pm
foomin
Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:27 pm
and Honda, yeah...i don't know? i hope these two characters are not just Easter Eggs, but i sure cannot figure out how they'll be done justice if they only get a Dream stage or two, and are not introduced into the storylines other than by the cutscenes...well, maybe that would'nt be THAT bad, it's WO after all and there's really not alot of character development for anyone.


^ Exactly. *cough*WOLiuBei*cough*

We might actually be looking at their only storyline involvement in the scan, who knows :unsure:

Now, does anyone have any guesses as to what Benkei does with that encased-in-a-wooden-box-Hulk-fist? He isn't just going to punch everyone is he? It almost looks like the mouth of a cannon in one of those screen shots ... (if this is already discussed/explained, please disregard)
Donīt know if thatīs been discussed, BUT:

Itīs a cannon. So we know heīll punch and shoot. I guess heīll have a charge move which you can charge...the "great-robo-rocket-hand-punch-shot".

Also the weapons in Benkeiīs surpirse box...he doesnīt seem like the type to use a childs hammer. I mean the weapons on his back are only as big as his left finger(yes Iīm dramatizing).
Maybe heīs a backyard-weapon dealer. Heīs one of the founders of what will later be known as trunk-selling...except know we have cars... :lol:

Nah, seriously, maybe heīll use them in his Mousou, or he attacks like Ten-Ten from Naruto and throws them all at once, or shoots them out of his arm-cannon(Like Mr.Game and Watch|Super Smash Bros. Melee/Brawl| he attacks with number from 1 till 9 and everytime another thing happens, low damage, fire, ice, electricity, instant kill etc.....) so one time itīs the hammer which clears crowds, a sword which pierces one enemy, but deals enormous damage...sorry...itīs Benkei and Sony so, MASSIVE DAMAGE...etc. etc.
KOEI whatīs taking you so long, show us something about THE BEN-KEI.
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