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Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only)
Topic Started: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:26 pm (6,886 Views)
ZeroTheWarrior
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dunno why people are getting so excited and automatically assume 5th weapons are in cause shin orochi has a new design for his weapon finally instead of a copy of his old form's scythe...

and why tell people to "stop killing the happy mood"? that happy mood is gonna be obliterated when ya get the game on the 12th and see there are no 5th weapons anyway...

i guess we'll see who is right soon, the game's japanese release is drawing near... 5-6 days to go...
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Just to be clear, MO-Z is just an upgraded version of MO2 right? Not a...sequel?
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i'm just saying.....its really not right, they should have made it this way to begin with or like i said do DLC for the 360 owners. cause honestly there are more 360 owners on the gamefaqs forum and they are going to be in a uproar when they finally realize whats happening. like i said i love the warriors series... all of them. it just isn't right...and yes i agree the ps3 should get good games...they should have had good games by now instead of the stuff they keep porting over to it and churning out on it. companies need to stop this exclusivity stuff. its ridiculous and pointless. it alienates customers...in the case of this game...ps3 exlcusive characters (4 granted) but new costumes, orochi x unlocked already, new stages, and more fixes and stuff that would have made the original game (WO2) so much better than it already is....and everyone who doesn't have a ps3 is pretty much screwed. and i am not just singling out koei...i mean the same for all companies that are doing games fo rmulti-platform. i mean i would rather wait a couple extra months rather than get a half-a$$ed version of a game only to find out the company is turning around and re-releasing it with a different name and added content. anyways it is just wrong in the end and koei may not lose money from this, but they will lose fan/customer loyalty from it.
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 11:22 am
Just to be clear, MO-Z is just an upgraded version of MO2 right? Not a...sequel?
Thats right, I wouldn't even want Koei to make another sequel to be honest...
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 11:24 am
i'm just saying.....its really not right, they should have made it this way to begin with or like i said do DLC for the 360 owners. cause honestly there are more 360 owners on the gamefaqs forum and they are going to be in a uproar when they finally realize whats happening. like i said i love the warriors series... all of them. it just isn't right...and yes i agree the ps3 should get good games...they should have had good games by now instead of the stuff they keep porting over to it and churning out on it. companies need to stop this exclusivity stuff. its ridiculous and pointless. it alienates customers...in the case of this game...ps3 exlcusive characters (4 granted) but new costumes, orochi x unlocked already, new stages, and more fixes and stuff that would have made the original game (WO2) so much better than it already is....and everyone who doesn't have a ps3 is pretty much screwed. and i am not just singling out koei...i mean the same for all companies that are doing games fo rmulti-platform. i mean i would rather wait a couple extra months rather than get a half-a$$ed version of a game only to find out the company is turning around and re-releasing it with a different name and added content. anyways it is just wrong in the end and koei may not lose money from this, but they will lose fan/customer loyalty from it.
About the exclusive stuff, that's how video game industry works, how markets and businesses work! Just like any other businesses, Microsoft and Sony have to provide something special that the other one can't provide to their customers! That's when exclusive titles come in! But yeah since Koei is a third party company they can always give 360 owners the DLC, heck Koei can release the game for 360 but I don't think it's wise for Koei to do so!
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 11:24 am
More fixes and stuff that would have made the original game (WO2) so much better than it already is....and everyone who doesn't have a ps3 is pretty much screwed.

Anyways it is just wrong in the end and koei may not lose money from this, but they will lose fan/customer loyalty from it.
I totally get you; I mean, back then, a lotta people were looking forward to MO2; Seeing that MO-Z turned up with high upgrades and everything; in addition for the PS3; some of the fans are pretty much screwed after all. :sad:
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I understand how you feel Zenji Fan but that's how it is we had alot of posts about this earlier so it not just you.
I have the game (WO2) for 360 and do find it pointless to buy the same game again just for a few new contents, characters, and clothes.

I would wait to see what Koei's gonna do next (like I did with DW6S).
My brother wanna get the game to see what's it like on the PS3 so if he does I'll get to try it. (Hey its not my money) :cool:

Hey at least they didn't go all out and add transformations like in Strikeforce. lol
Edited by Tempest, Fri Mar 6, 2009 11:54 am.
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its not just consoles and stuff that get exclusive things... same thing happens between countries, japan gets bonus stuff with almost every single game, either game content or merchandise... while america gets absolutely nothing special at all...

anyway, this is slowly straying away from WOZ getting into console war-related stuff...

WOZ is the whole reason i plan on getting a ps3 now, if it comes out america, that is... thats another thing worrying me, i mean, look at games like way of the samurai and sengoku basara... we get WotS 1 and 2, but the third one is japan-only, and sengoku basara comes to america as devil kings and is completely ruined, we get screwed out of the coolest characters [mitsuhide "reaper" akechi] and the rest of them are japan-only...

im just worried whether or not WOZ will come to america... that'd be truly unfair, never giving us the game, cause even ps3 owners could get it here, unless you wanna waste money on something ya cant understand...
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Well, even if Mo-Z actually came for the PS2 some time later, wouldn't it be all "laggy" and downgraded like DW6? :blink:

Not worth it :(
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Hey is this true , did they going to put the 5th weapon in WOZ , OMG I can t' belive if this true !!!!! < :)
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:02 pm
Hey is this true , did they going to put the 5th weapon in WOZ , OMG I can t' belive if this true !!!!! < :)
Well, of course it's true; didn't you see the main site? :mellow:
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 11:54 am
Well, even if Mo-Z actually came for the PS2 some time later, wouldn't it be all "laggy" and downgraded like DW6? :blink:

Not worth it :(
And why would Koei release the game for PS2 as well? We have WO and WO2 on PS2 and they aren't that great on the system! If 12 new stages, 4 new characters and some new clothes give Koei reasons to release the game on the same console again, Koei might as well declare bankruptcy because if they did that, sooner or later they would become bankrupt! (which would be really sad for me actually) :(
Edited by StrikeForce9, Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:07 pm.
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@Retainermori I love the dragon thing you got going.

On topic why complain about this when the games almost out?

Who knows it may be a PS3 exclusive in Japan but that could change by time it comes to the US. :cool:
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:04 pm
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:02 pm
Hey is this true , did they going to put the 5th weapon in WOZ , OMG I can t' belive if this true !!!!! < :)
Well, of course it's true; didn't you see the main site? :mellow:
dont throw fuel on the fire of excitement... there is absolutely no proof on the main site that shows 5th weapons, unless something is written in japanese about them being confirmed...

someone sees that shin orochi alone has a new scythe, and assume 5th weapons are in, it could just be that koei gave shin orochi a new scythe design to seperate it from his original form's scythe, and to give him some reason to appear in the gallery this time around...

i would love if 5th weapons are in, but when i was thinking 5th weapons were in, pretty much everyone went to every length to crush my hope, and now it seems the roles have been reversed... <_<
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 11:54 am
Well, even if Mo-Z actually came for the PS2 some time later, wouldn't it be all "laggy" and downgraded like DW6? :blink:

Not worth it :(
And why would Koei release the game for PS2 as well? We have WO and WO2 on PS2 and they aren't that great on the system! If 12 new stages, 4 new characters and some new clothes give Koei reasons to release the game on the same console again, Koei might as well declare bankruptcy because if they did that, sooner or later they would become bankrupt! (which would be really sad for me actually) :(
It would be kinda sad; but...it serves them right for being so focused on money. :(

@Tempest- Thanks :)
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@ZeroTheWarrior: I agree on that! Nothing is official for the time being! Don't get your hopes up!

I'm not saying there won't be 5th weapons in this game but the chance of this being Shin Orochi's new weapon is fatter than it's being 5th weapon to be honest!
Edited by StrikeForce9, Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:21 pm.
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Well I have mixed feeling on the 5th weapons.

I hope they don't appear because that would cause other people without PS3s to go on a riot and start slashing tire (poor cars).

And I want it because I do miss Zhou yu's Scion Sword and would love what new designs they could come up with.

But thinking with logic how would the put it in 4th already hit the hardest and I don't think they would make all 5th have auto almighty. :cool:
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although there probably arent any 5th weapons, it looks like there could be different weapons for gyuki and dodomeki...

staring at these screenshots on the site, dodomeki on the "character unlocked" screen has fairly dull looking gauntlets with purple edges on the ends... but his in-game shots shows his gauntlets slightly different with white edges and white lining along the entire gauntlets...

it might just be extra detail added to the in-game model, but who knows... its a possibility.

and with gyuki, im not completely sure with him, but wasnt his weapon just a large chunk of wood used as a club?

in some screenshots of him, it looks like he has a slightly larger stone or metal-like club... again, might just be a change in detail for this game, but who knows...

geez, i wish this game would hurry and come out so we can stop going nuts over all this speculation...
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:32 pm.
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Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:29 pm
although there probably arent any 5th weapons, it looks like there could be different weapons for gyuki and dodomeki...

staring at these screenshots on the site, dodomeki on the "character unlocked" screen has fairly dull looking gauntlets with purple edges on the ends... but his in-game shots shows his gauntlets slightly different with white edges and white lining along the entire gauntlets...

it might just be extra detail added to the in-game model, but who knows... its a possibility.

and with gyuki, im not completely sure with him, but wasnt his weapon just a large chunk of wood used as a club?

in some screenshots of him, it looks like he has a slightly larger stone or metal-like club... again, might just be a change in detail for this game, but who knows...

geez, i wish this game would hurry and come out so we can stop going nuts over all this speculation...
Well thats just elementry, they made them fully playable, it's only logical that they'd give them full weapon sets.
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yeah, i suppose... but ya never know when it comes to koei...

cant say im not curious about the names of dodomeki's and gyuki's weapons...
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I don't recall gyuki's weapon being a log.(I wish splinters does hurt) would like to see his 4th then.

I guess I should be happy both him and dodomiki are my characters and now they are full character. (I felt like my brother ripped me off earlier)

(Lol I wanted to claim Kataro Fuma but he says he claimed him before I did so dodomeki is a good substitute I guess but I just can't help but feel he can't beat the originator)
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pretty much just bursted everyone's balloon, no 5th weapons, the three characters that were cut short in WO2 are just getting whats finally coming to them, new weapons...

time for the depression to set in for all those people who jumped on the hype train a little too early...
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IM at loss at the Three characters everyone seems to be referring, im assuming its Bekei, San Zong...and who else?

either that, or im just not getting it at all..
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The costume Kanetsugu has in the video looks like his alt colors from SW 2 Empires. I just checked to be sure. If that's the case then the non SW1 characters may indeed just be getting palette swaps :( Might be the same for the non DW 6 characters as well.

We've only seen unique new costumes for the WO only characters so far.

Though I did really like Masamune's alt colors in SW2 Empires but still.
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I have 10% hope that's his 5th weapon & 90% that's his own scyther or his unique weapon.. we will see this when the game release.. or next week?

Still.. it's too hard to believe that they will add 5th weapons in this game...
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