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Musou Orochi Z; WO + WO2 (For PS3/PC - JP Only)
Topic Started: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:26 pm (6,871 Views)
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BuddHA0991
Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:42 pm
Tetsuo9999
Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:13 pm
I don't really care about the new costumes. They're just skins, after all. I wish someone would make reports on gameplay and engine changes, because I'm not going to blow 80$ on this game if the advanced techniques have been neutered.
This. Costumes are pretty worthless tbh.
Why do you care, BuddHA? You already hated this game from the start so why would you be interested if they did anything with the gameplay now?

I have no interest in getting this game still. I refuse to feed anymore of my money to KOEI again but I will always have an interest in character designs no matter what which is why I started posting in here again.
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that doesnt make any sense... if you hate them, why support them or be interested in their work?

its like going to church when you dont believe in god, or buying a car and having absolutely no interest in driving.. or buying food and just staring at it til it rots...

...anyway, doesnt matter... i just wish i could understand the massive amount of gibberish on that site so i could see if there were anymore screenshots being posted... all i see is a bunch of random symbols and screwed up letters, etc... and alot of links to the official japanese WOZ site, etc...
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Jiahe
Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:57 pm
BuddHA0991
Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:42 pm
Tetsuo9999
Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:13 pm
I don't really care about the new costumes. They're just skins, after all. I wish someone would make reports on gameplay and engine changes, because I'm not going to blow 80$ on this game if the advanced techniques have been neutered.
This. Costumes are pretty worthless tbh.
Why do you care, BuddHA? You already hated this game from the start so why would you be interested if they did anything with the gameplay now?

I have no interest in getting this game still. I refuse to feed anymore of my money to KOEI again but I will always have an interest in character designs no matter what which is why I started posting in here again.
I suppose you guys have a point. I don't know wether it is just me but in all honesty Koei has found its own little, manipulative way of making me want this game. I want to see the old stages in better graphics and the costume thing is a little, tempting aswell. Shame, cause in honesty it might be a waste of money, I still am asking myself the question why Koei never released this in the first place. Perhaps they just simply want more money, or were genuinely unhappy with PS2/Xbox WO versions?
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Seems to be mention of a few bugs found in the game, such as something about one of the gates in Sanzang's Dream stage not opening if a certain thing occurs.

Haven't seen anything about changes in the gameplay itself, so too early to say whether the game uses WO1 or WO2 mechanics.
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why would it use WO1 mechanics, though? that'd be throwing out all their 'hard' work they put into WO2... they'd have to be braindead to do that.
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:19 am
Seems to be mention of a few bugs found in the game, such as something about one of the gates in Sanzang's Dream stage not opening if a certain thing occurs.

Haven't seen anything about changes in the gameplay itself, so too early to say whether the game uses WO1 or WO2 mechanics.
I'll be going over to the apartment today to find out if the roommate will let me use his PS3 for this game, so that will settle it once and for all.

He can be a bit.... touchy with his belongings, so wish me luck. Hopefully Highflier is in it, otherwise I won't be playing this at all.
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:18 am
Shame, cause in honesty it might be a waste of money, I still am asking myself the question why Koei never released this in the first place. Perhaps they just simply want more money, or were genuinely unhappy with PS2/Xbox WO versions?
That is what I have been asking myself since they released this game but that could've been the answer I been looking for the whole time and didn't realized it. Besides, I hated the idea that proficiency farming was invented in this game to begin with and it took enough of my time to completed for that amount of characters so why would I want to do it a 3rd time around? Seems kinda pointless. But yeah... I am still not going to cave into buying this game especially at $60 or whatever high price they are going charge us for.
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you wont play it if that highflier skill isnt it? why?!

i dont get some of you people... i NEVER bothered even using the skills... only reason i collected the treasures in WO2 was to get closer to completing the game, and unlocking dodomeki and gyuki in VS mode, of course...

im mostly not interested in using the skills because they seem like hell to get, having to spend so long to get weapons prepared to sacrifice just for one skill, then once its attached to a weapon, its gone and ya have to do it all over again...

all the work i did for shin orochi was worth more than what is needed for stupid skills to attach to weapons.
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:29 am
*Burning* Devil Scholar
Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:18 am
Shame, cause in honesty it might be a waste of money, I still am asking myself the question why Koei never released this in the first place. Perhaps they just simply want more money, or were genuinely unhappy with PS2/Xbox WO versions?
That is what I have been asking myself since they released this game but that could've been the answer I been looking for the whole time and didn't realized it. Besides, I hated the idea that proficiency farming was invented in this game to begin with and it took enough of my time to completed for that amount of characters so why would I want to do it a 3rd time around? Seems kinda pointless. But yeah... I am still not going to cave into buying this game especially at $60 or whatever high price they are going charge us for.
Someone will post a save on GameFAQs in a week or so, trust me. Unless you care about trophies, there's no reason not to download the save when someone puts it up. You'll have seen most of the new content by then, anyway.

ZeroTheWarrior
Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:30 am
you wont play it if that highflier skill isnt it? why?!

i dont get some of you people... i NEVER bothered even using the skills... only reason i collected the treasures in WO2 was to get closer to completing the game, and unlocking dodomeki and gyuki in VS mode, of course...

im mostly not interested in using the skills because they seem like hell to get, having to spend so long to get weapons prepared to sacrifice just for one skill, then once its attached to a weapon, its gone and ya have to do it all over again...

all the work i did for shin orochi was worth more than what is needed for stupid skills to attach to weapons.
Heaven forbid that I like using the game's combat system to its fullest instead of mashing buttons or using the same move over and over.. I'm capable of understanding that not everyone has the same approach to action games that I do, but you should be able to figure out why Highflier is a big deal to me. I can't do any advanced tag combos without it, and the game's boring to me as a result.
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Indeed. Just take a look at Tetsuo's MO2 videos and you'll see exactly why certain skills like Highflier can really change up how the game is played.
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Someone will post a save on GameFAQs in a week or so, trust me. Unless you care about trophies, there's no reason not to download the save when someone puts it up. You'll have seen most of the new content by then, anyway.
I never use those GameFAQs save files since I rather play my games from scratch plus I don't have many games that enables trophies anyways so I could care less about the trophies at this point.
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Proficiency was a big problem with WO2 especially. The higher it went and still no change happened to the characters :blink: . Also, it was out of 50, and it takes a damn heck of awhile to finish. It was really annoying. I wonder if it will return back to how it was in WO, in a way I kinda hope so.

I hope there is a big improvement with cutscenes, like back in the old days when they changed depending on who you were playing. We don't have that anymore :rolleyes: . But I don't think Koei will be, sophisticated (I basically mean, 'not lazy') enough to give all the characters seperate lines.
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highflier just allows you to jump in the middle of charges, i dont see much point behind it...

and i would use the skills if i could apply them to characters more easily, but geez.. to give every character in the game a set of three skills on their weapon, would take me months, maybe years of building up weapons and sacrificing them then applying the skills... they're not THAT great.

now if a cheat device comes out for the ps3 so i can use a cheat to give me unlimited skills available to me, i might apply them to everyone and use them whenever we get WOZ... but if not, im not bothering with them.
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:40 am
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Someone will post a save on GameFAQs in a week or so, trust me. Unless you care about trophies, there's no reason not to download the save when someone puts it up. You'll have seen most of the new content by then, anyway.
I never use those GameFAQs save files since I rather play my games from scratch plus I don't have many games that enables trophies anyways so I could care less about the trophies at this point.
...Then why wouldn't you download the save? You just said you don't care about the trophies, so there's nothing to lose.

ZeroTheWarrior
Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:44 am
highflier just allows you to jump in the middle of charges, i dont see much point behind it...

and i would use the skills if i could apply them to characters more easily, but geez.. to give every character in the game a set of three skills on their weapon, would take me months, maybe years of building up weapons and sacrificing them then applying the skills... they're not THAT great.

now if a cheat device comes out for the ps3 so i can use a cheat to give me unlimited skills available to me, i might apply them to everyone and use them whenever we get WOZ... but if not, im not bothering with them.
I just told you why Highflier is important to advanced players three posts ago. It's fine if you don't care for it, but you should be able to comprehend why it's integral to other people's play styles.
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:44 am
highflier just allows you to jump in the middle of charges, i dont see much point behind it...

and i would use the skills if i could apply them to characters more easily, but geez.. to give every character in the game a set of three skills on their weapon, would take me months, maybe years of building up weapons and sacrificing them then applying the skills... they're not THAT great.

now if a cheat device comes out for the ps3 so i can use a cheat to give me unlimited skills available to me, i might apply them to everyone and use them whenever we get WOZ... but if not, im not bothering with them.
I just told you why Highflier is important to advanced players three posts ago. It's fine if you don't care for it, but you should be able to comprehend why it's integral to other people's play styles.
You guys lil debate is going on quite a bit. And i'm surprised nobody has picked up on Tetsuo's double posting yet :rolleyes: . Basically, @ZTW I think you should know that Tetsuo is known for uploading masses of gameplay videos of Koei games. He usually has maxed out characters almost instantly and personally I would never use his 'play style' as for one the games are done and completely dusted far too early. Still, highflier is key to him as he is showing these videos to others and if he was showing low lever slow characters people might not be as interested. He likes power house characters (I assume) and your not perticularly bothered by it, everyones plays differently.
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...Then why wouldn't you download the save? You just said you don't care about the trophies, so there's nothing to lose.
Because I never said I was going to get this game to begin with anyways... all I was saying that the proficiencies were pointless in my view and should just be removed completely, that is all.
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Hopefully within the next few days someone will be able to confirm that MOZ has online 2P, will make getting Lu Bu's Unique Item soooo much easier.



....Assuming the Unique item's are in MOZ of course (I know they were removed for WO2)
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it wont, they would have announced that as a major feature...
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Good gravy children settle down opinions aren't fact nor should they be dissmissed simply because you disagree with them, to quote "i don't believe in what you say, but i'll fight to the death your right to say it" (might be a lil off, but still~!)

So some people like other things whilst others like diffrent things, some want to buy this game, some do not, some like the designs, others want more designs, yadda yadda no sense fight'n over a game, trust you're all mature nuff not to do that or did i choose the wrong messege board to join? i was led to belive you were all mature and upright, didn't realise this was gamefaqs forum
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i wonder if this game will have the costume stick feture

you know, like how in SW2:XL, if you changed a characters costume, they will alwase ware it, even when you dont play as them.

it would be nice, there are alot of default costumes i do not like, and if there is such a feture, then ill have a reason to play as all the other characters.

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also, it would be cool to mix and match all the outfits of all the characters up and see them on the feald

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Good gravy children settle down opinions aren't fact nor should they be dissmissed simply because you disagree with them, to quote "i don't believe in what you say, but i'll fight to the death your right to say it" (might be a lil off, but still~!)

So some people like other things whilst others like diffrent things, some want to buy this game, some do not, some like the designs, others want more designs, yadda yadda no sense fight'n over a game, trust you're all mature nuff not to do that or did i choose the wrong messege board to join? i was led to belive you were all mature and upright, didn't realise this was gamefaqs forum
Don't you think that sounded a little, cynical :XD . Although I see what you mean, no need to take things toooo seriously ;) .
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wait.. SW2 XL had it so you could set the outfits for AI controlled characters?

...what is with koei giving features like that to some games, and leaving them out of the newer ones? the hype for this game is dying fast the longer im here...

...still want it, though... god i hope we get a release date soon!

kinda sad the flow of screenshots died so early, we havent even seen half the new outfits... unless the guy who took the screenshots didnt unlock all the 4th outfits yet...
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Assigning outfits is a Samurai Warriors series exclusive as far as I know. In SW1 there was an unlockable option to change all outfits to the alt version if your character was wearing their alt. SW2E/XL conitinued this by remembering what color you last left a character on, and keeping them that color in the game regardless of player-controlled or not.

If I recall correctly, the team working on SW series is not entirely the same staff as those working on DW. Different divisions of Omega Force if you will. It explains a lot about little nuances between the series, like DW NOT LETTING YOU KEEP EXP EARNED IF YOU DIE RARGH RAGH RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.
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...Seraphil, is it just me or do you have a different avatar every time you post?

i've noticed some people's avatars changing every 5 minutes... cant decide? :P

and thats stupid... i guess thats why SW proves to be better than DW... that division has the GOOD team... figures...

since WO is a combination of both series, both divisions should work on it and put their unique features into this series... but its mostly DW stuff and hardly any SW-based stuff...

Edit: ...see! it just changed again! i think i've seen your avatar change like 10 times today...

and again... ok, i demand an explanation, my mind is cracking... :wacko:
Edited by ZeroTheWarrior, Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:39 am.
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I love Da Qiao's! It's a little too simple for my liking though. I honestly expected her in Xiao Qiao's alt outfit for DW6. And since that outfit was surprisingly simple I was able to make it on Soul Calibur! Tis very sexy...PM me for the formula.

Zhu Rong matches her husband very well so I expect her to be in Empires. How much do you want to bet that the Empires site is going to update either on Friday or next Friday?
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