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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,885 Views)
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I like everything I've seen so far of this. Masayuki looks great and the new elements all sound pretty interesting. Most of all, it's nice to be in "OMG Scans" season again. The excitement is pretty contagious.

I'm friggen happy that an ageing system of sorts is finally making its way into the games. Hope it carries through to more characters, Ieyasu in particular, and to DW even.
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Manjiimortal
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I can add a bit more on Matabei.

His father was the chief retainer of Bessho Nagaharu, whom revolted against Nobunaga in 1578 in Harima province. When Miki Castle fell in 1580 Matabei's father committed suicide alongside Nagaharu, but Matabei was spared and taken in by Kanbei.

He served the Kuroda during Sekigahara, but it's unknown whether he fought alongside Nagamasa or Kanbei. He lived from 1573 to 1615. His actual name is Goto Mototsugu, but he's better known as Matabei.

I'd call him the second best Osaka defenders addition (after Morichika), because Koei can BS and give him his father's role as a retainer of the Bessho, if they ever want to have the Siege of Miki Castle as a featured battle.
Edited by Manjiimortal, Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:29 pm.
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Finally, KOEI adds aging system. Hope DW can have it too

Anymore info about "fishing" like how important is it? And what is "Next Move"? I really doesn't understand about "Next Move"

Talking about Matabei Goto, I also want him to be added :hehe:
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Astus
Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:14 pm
I like everything I've seen so far of this. Masayuki looks great and the new elements all sound pretty interesting. Most of all, it's nice to be in "OMG Scans" season again. The excitement is pretty contagious.

I'm friggen happy that an ageing system of sorts is finally making its way into the games. Hope it carries through to more characters, Ieyasu in particular, and to DW even.
As good as it is, it's a shame it's for another spin-off kinda title rather than a whole new game like DW9 which is when the proper scans will be happening :lol: . However I am very interested in this game, I do quite like Yukimura as a protagonist, his personality although arguably "bland" doesn't seem that way to me too much whereas Zhao Yun does. Maybe because Yukimura is a proper historical figure of heroism whereas Zhao Yun's feats are more fictionalised.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:52 pm
And what is "Next Move"? I really doesn't understand about "Next Move"
tactics and stuff that makes stages easier, think of the "strategies/ploys" in the Empires games, difference being you need Rokumonsen coins to be able to buy/use them
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:54 pm
Astus
Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:14 pm
I like everything I've seen so far of this. Masayuki looks great and the new elements all sound pretty interesting. Most of all, it's nice to be in "OMG Scans" season again. The excitement is pretty contagious.

I'm friggen happy that an ageing system of sorts is finally making its way into the games. Hope it carries through to more characters, Ieyasu in particular, and to DW even.
As good as it is, it's a shame it's for another spin-off kinda title rather than a whole new game like DW9 which is when the proper scans will be happening :lol: . However I am very interested in this game, I do quite like Yukimura as a protagonist, his personality although arguably "bland" doesn't seem that way to me too much whereas Zhao Yun does. Maybe because Yukimura is a proper historical figure of heroism whereas Zhao Yun's feats are more fictionalised.
Yeah, the same case with me. Sanada Yukimura imo >>>> Zhao Yun. Zhao Yun seems as mix of dutiful soldier and hero, while Yukimura was Warlord (although not actual heir, but still) and samurai (which is not exactly a hero). Even though his life was also fictionalised a lot, I don`t think it`s that bad. Plus SW events happened several centuries ago, while TK more than decade ago! which is... hm quite obscure for decent source of info.
yeah, DW9 news please (even if it brings me pain by knowing that Xu Sheng might be generic again).

@Call Me Hunky. Yeah, animation is weird, and it makes whole series look somewhat slow and cumbersome. Anyway I think second episode was great. quite interested to see more.
Edited by WarHawk, Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:42 pm.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:52 pm
Finally, KOEI adds aging system. Hope DW can have it too

Anymore info about "fishing" like how important is it? And what is "Next Move"? I really doesn't understand about "Next Move"

Talking about Matabei Goto, I also want him to be added :hehe:
FINALLY! SOMEONE HAS TALKED ABOUT FISHING! HUZZAH! :luffy:

It's nice to see KOEI trying to experiment aging system on Yukimura. If we get to see a younger Nobunaga or Cao Cao or Sun Jian, that might be epic.
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There's no point to a young Sun Jian, he only lives for 6 years of the narrative. And if anything Koei makes him look way too old, he was only 36 or 37 when he died.

Yukimura's life is fictionalized quite a bit, it's no near as bad as Zhao Yun's, whom was just a guy that served Liu Bei for ages and escorted his wife and son back to him in a stroll. And Yukimura at least has potential for an interesting narrative around him (the way they Masayuki leaves me hopeful), while Mcbland Zhao Yun doesn't.
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Judging by Masayuki's bio on the official site, there will be a clash of morals between him and Yukimura, it seems
Edited by AntonKutovoi, Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:13 pm.
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AntonKutovoi
Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:12 pm
Judging by Masayuki's bio on the official site, there will be a clash of morals between him and Yukimura, it seems
Knowing Yukimura....it's obvious. Wow like, Masayuki and Nobuyuki are like, "Yukimura pls understand...we need to bow to Tokugawa." But he kept being hard-headed.
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Masayuki did some outstanding jumping around for a while. That period in 1582 when he went from serving the Takeda to the Oda, then he defected to the Uesugi, then decided to join the Hojo, then betrayed the Hojo and went to the Tokugawa.

And later in 85 he defected from the Tokugawa to the Uesugi again, and ended up a vassal of the Toyotomi.

Dude knew how to play the game.
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^And if I remember right Hideyoshi made him into a vassal of the Tokugawa again a short time after that, which was part of the reason why he initially supported the Tokugawa and fought the Uesugi at the start of Sekigahara(I wish the games would use this bit, there aren't any other instances of the whole sanada clan teaming up with the Tokugawa, though there are plenty of them teaming up with the Toyotomi).
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:03 pm
There's no point to a young Sun Jian, he only lives for 6 years of the narrative. And if anything Koei makes him look way too old, he was only 36 or 37 when he died.

Yukimura's life is fictionalized quite a bit, it's no near as bad as Zhao Yun's, whom was just a guy that served Liu Bei for ages and escorted his wife and son back to him in a stroll. And Yukimura at least has potential for an interesting narrative around him (the way they Masayuki leaves me hopeful), while Mcbland Zhao Yun doesn't.
I still don't see how did Zhao Yun make it to the poster boy position. There was nothing special about him besides the rescue of baby Liu Shan. And while its okay to think of this (NSFW) as a good addition due to the natural love of Koei for pretty boys, its not like they couldn't have made someone else, right? Also, for a mighty warrior, its weird to have a story (dunno if its true) that you got killed by your wife, right?
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who will they ad next? and how many new characters will they ad
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:24 pm
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:03 pm
There's no point to a young Sun Jian, he only lives for 6 years of the narrative. And if anything Koei makes him look way too old, he was only 36 or 37 when he died.

Yukimura's life is fictionalized quite a bit, it's no near as bad as Zhao Yun's, whom was just a guy that served Liu Bei for ages and escorted his wife and son back to him in a stroll. And Yukimura at least has potential for an interesting narrative around him (the way they Masayuki leaves me hopeful), while Mcbland Zhao Yun doesn't.
I still don't see how did Zhao Yun make it to the poster boy position. There was nothing special about him besides the rescue of baby Liu Shan. And while its okay to think of this (NSFW) as a good addition due to the natural love of Koei for pretty boys, its not like they couldn't have made someone else, right? Also, for a mighty warrior, its weird to have a story (dunno if its true) that you got killed by your wife, right?
Beats me. He's greatly aggrandized in the novel, but there are more characters that receive that treatment.

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As far as I recall, SSM series appeared in the first place, because Koei wanted to recreate Zhao Yun's action at Changban. Don't remember source right now.
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Yeah, I remember hearing that too. Zhao Yun charging forward in a green light in the novel and mowing everyone down is the whole reason we have Musou as it is now rather than a fighting game.

And I dunno, I feel Zhao Yun the novel character and Zhao Yun the Koei character is more interesting than Yukimura the historical figure and Yukimura the Koei character (remember, Dynasty Warriors is based on RotK first and foremost, not actual history). But I like Nobuyuki and Ina, so what do I know?
Edited by Uesugi Kenshin, Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:58 pm.
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Nobuyuki is forgivable, he may be a traitor *******, but he is still historically important for his time. Ina, on the other hand, despite having potential, completely sucks in Koei's series due to simply being completely boring and weak as a character, she exists to be in the shadows, even more than Hanzö.

Also, I'll ask again, is Famitsu weekly or monthly? The next one could come with the new characters, we must keep an eye out.
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I remember that around DW8 pre-release we'd usually get famitsu news every two weeks. Don't know if it will follow, but the stream is in 2 weeks and on a Thursday, so they might have more reveals the day before.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:53 pm
Masayuki did some outstanding jumping around for a while. That period in 1582 when he went from serving the Takeda to the Oda, then he defected to the Uesugi, then decided to join the Hojo, then betrayed the Hojo and went to the Tokugawa.

And later in 85 he defected from the Tokugawa to the Uesugi again, and ended up a vassal of the Toyotomi.

Dude knew how to play the game.
Perfect conflict material for angsty Yukimura.

So if the game follows three main periods, the conflict period will be during the Ueda Castle section. Then once Sekigahara is over and Yukimura and Masayuki are exiled they can reconcile during that period where Yukimura learns a few things from pops in time for the Osaka Castle section.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:12 pm
Manjiimortal
Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:53 pm
Masayuki did some outstanding jumping around for a while. That period in 1582 when he went from serving the Takeda to the Oda, then he defected to the Uesugi, then decided to join the Hojo, then betrayed the Hojo and went to the Tokugawa.

And later in 85 he defected from the Tokugawa to the Uesugi again, and ended up a vassal of the Toyotomi.

Dude knew how to play the game.
Perfect conflict material for angsty Yukimura.

So if the game follows three main periods, the conflict period will be during the Ueda Castle section. Then once Sekigahara is over and Yukimura and Masayuki are exiled they can reconcile during that period where Yukimura learns a few things from pops in time for the Osaka Castle section.
More to add to the fire!

Though the Sanada were under the Toyotomi they were put under military command of the Tokugawa (bluefiend has mentioned it already), and the Sanada were involved in the incident that was used as an excuse by Hideyoshi to attack the Hojo clan.

Then of course there's the matter of his loyalties during Sekigahara.
Edited by Manjiimortal, Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:31 pm.
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Who is Matabei Goto?

In terms of aging system, I can believe that will add more feature for several characters. I will be down to see more of coming as time goes on and hopefully carry it more to the series.

As for Dynasty Warriors (Let's talk about that later).
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Who is Matabei Goto?
this guy

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he's awesome btw
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Better:
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This guy. Hotter.

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Or this one. More realistic.
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Better:
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This guy. Hotter.

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Or this one. More realistic.
Realistic one is better, at least for me ;)
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