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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,878 Views)
garnix
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Adlet
Tue Aug 2, 2016 12:01 am
They had used the Warrior gameplay in too many game now XD
So did soccer games, so did FPS games etc etc.
The major issue with Warriors gameplay is not the gameplay itselfs, it's more that they are having difficult to improve it nowadays.
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garnix
Tue Aug 2, 2016 1:27 am
Adlet
Tue Aug 2, 2016 12:01 am
They had used the Warrior gameplay in too many game now XD
So did soccer games, so did FPS games etc etc.
The major issue with Warriors gameplay is not the gameplay itselfs, it's more that they are having difficult to improve it nowadays.
Wise words.
I wonder how they will handle the fishing mechanics, and if that is the only side activity... If so that's a weird choice for a musou to emphasize on fishing :XD
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Mon Aug 1, 2016 11:39 pm
I don't see why the Warriors gameplay would be a bad thing.
the problem is not because they use the Musou formula, the problem is they are using SW4 gameplay, which is craptastic.

musou gameplay can be different and fun, just look at the non SW/DW/WO musou games sans Arslan.
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Ryō Genken
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Just reminder, tomorrow there will be Famitsu live video of the game. There might be some new gameplay inside it:
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv269396439
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Fūma
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wodash
Tue Aug 2, 2016 12:20 pm
Makörin
Mon Aug 1, 2016 11:39 pm
I don't see why the Warriors gameplay would be a bad thing.
the problem is not because they use the Musou formula, the problem is they are using SW4 gameplay, which is craptastic.

musou gameplay can be different and fun, just look at the non SW/DW/WO musou games sans Arslan.
That's just your opinion. I enjoyed SW4's combat quite a lot. Hyper attacks were definitely a welcomed addition to add more diversity to the movesets and the revamped musous are much more fun than the old ones.
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Mark Robin
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Tue Aug 2, 2016 3:07 pm
Just reminder, tomorrow there will be Famitsu live video of the game. There might be some new gameplay inside it:
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv269396439
If its just gameplay, then I'm guessing is fine. It more likely that we have to wait for new characters again. Looking forward to it.
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This is interesting, I may get this if it comes stateside.

If this does well and they make another one, would like Nobunaga to be featured, kinda be similar to the storyline of Kessen III
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I had a weird dream a few weeks ago. Some video discussing Naotora's viability as a Samurai Warriors 4 character. She was the only one who had godspeed attacks, but she also had a meter which governed when she could use them- she couldn't just use them willy nilly.

I was thinking maybe that's a way they could balance godspeed attacks some more? Have it governed by a sort of stamina meter. If the meter runs out, you have to wait for it to refill a little bit to use the moves again. Wouldn't be a slow wait, like with the Musou gauge, but something to make sure you use more than just godspeed. Even the nerf it got for 4-2/Empires, I feel, wasn't quite enough... There was still little reason to use the s-string. Against officers, sure, but otherwise, not really.
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Ryō Genken
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Tue Aug 2, 2016 5:55 pm
I had a weird dream a few weeks ago. Some video discussing Naotora's viability as a Samurai Warriors 4 character. She was the only one who had godspeed attacks, but she also had a meter which governed when she could use them- she couldn't just use them willy nilly.

I was thinking maybe that's a way they could balance godspeed attacks some more? Have it governed by a sort of stamina meter. If the meter runs out, you have to wait for it to refill a little bit to use the moves again. Wouldn't be a slow wait, like with the Musou gauge, but something to make sure you use more than just godspeed. Even the nerf it got for 4-2/Empires, I feel, wasn't quite enough... There was still little reason to use the s-string. Against officers, sure, but otherwise, not really.
Hmm..that's a good idea.

Personally i'd rather see it becomes a full-fledged alternate string of attack. Godspeed string can still exists, however you can only triggers it when certain points are met.
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Tue Aug 2, 2016 3:07 pm
Just reminder, tomorrow there will be Famitsu live video of the game. There might be some new gameplay inside it:
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv269396439
Actually, it starts tomorrow at around 12 A.M.

25 hours to wait!
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Myst
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wodash
Tue Aug 2, 2016 12:20 pm
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Mon Aug 1, 2016 11:39 pm
I don't see why the Warriors gameplay would be a bad thing.
the problem is not because they use the Musou formula, the problem is they are using SW4 gameplay, which is craptastic.

musou gameplay can be different and fun, just look at the non SW/DW/WO musou games sans Arslan.
Godspeed should have been limited by a meter. Godspeed cheapened SW4 and SW4E. The non DW/SW game are trying more innovation in combat,, SWSM could learn.
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Tue Aug 2, 2016 6:11 pm
Uesugi Kenshin
Tue Aug 2, 2016 5:55 pm
I had a weird dream a few weeks ago. Some video discussing Naotora's viability as a Samurai Warriors 4 character. She was the only one who had godspeed attacks, but she also had a meter which governed when she could use them- she couldn't just use them willy nilly.

I was thinking maybe that's a way they could balance godspeed attacks some more? Have it governed by a sort of stamina meter. If the meter runs out, you have to wait for it to refill a little bit to use the moves again. Wouldn't be a slow wait, like with the Musou gauge, but something to make sure you use more than just godspeed. Even the nerf it got for 4-2/Empires, I feel, wasn't quite enough... There was still little reason to use the s-string. Against officers, sure, but otherwise, not really.
Hmm..that's a good idea.

Personally i'd rather see it becomes a full-fledged alternate string of attack. Godspeed string can still exists, however you can only triggers it when certain points are met.
I like this idea, why bother having godspeed attacks when we can just have attacks that we can use against anyone instead? plus with jump/roll/special cancelling we could combo them into the normal string as well for even more combo variety and a bit of added depth to boot.
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Call Me Hunky
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What time is the stream supposed to start?
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20h japanese time.
After that, it depend where you live for the change ^^'
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Thu Aug 4, 2016 6:09 am
What time is the stream supposed to start?
In France, it starts at 12.
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Stream has started.

I didn't expect a female narrator. I wonder if she'll be in the game as well. It would be an interesting change :D
Edited by AntonKutovoi, Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:05 pm.
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Judging from that little snippet there, older yukimura has a different moveset? His musou was different at least
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It seems there's a new costume for Yukimura..?
It happens so quick i haven't got a chance to capture the ss of it.
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What's the significance of the number 48?
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Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:05 pm
What's the significance of the number 48?
Yukimura's years of life.
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Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:05 pm
What's the significance of the number 48?
SND48.
Yukimura died at age 48.
Ah Ninja'd.
Edited by Ryō Genken, Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:08 pm.
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Ooooh I like that new Yukimura :kasugasm:

Not daddy, the younger one
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Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:09 pm
Ooooh I like that new Yukimura :kasugasm:

Not daddy, the younger one
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Hmm..needs a better clear look for my judgment.
Then we had older Masayuki:
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Edited by Ryō Genken, Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:13 pm.
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Where is my silver fox old nobuyuki????


Ah, this must be the town part now. I dunno why but I was expecting them to be bigger :lol: maybe there'll be a variety of them
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Thu Aug 4, 2016 12:15 pm
Where is my silver fox old nobuyuki????
There's Liao..i mean Yes pls! :kasugasm:
Seriously they better need to showcase Nobuyuki i hope his elder form is great.
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