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| Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada | |
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| dragongaiden | Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:32 am Post #1201 |
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First Lieutenant
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Why they don't make a young Shingen Takeda?? I don't like that grandfather... |
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| wodash | Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:36 am Post #1202 |
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undefeated in all directions
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they shown kid characters to be controllable, but all of them are on non combat situation ![]() because this is not about the Takeda
Edited by wodash, Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:36 am.
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| AntonKutovoi | Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:18 pm Post #1203 |
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Legend
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BTW, what second battle of Kizugawaguchi is doing here? |
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| NeonZ | Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:18 pm Post #1204 |
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General
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If they're showing Kunoichi as significantly older than Yukimura, I think most likely they'll remove her crush on him altogether, at least for this game. Even though she will look younger than him by the time of Osaka due to the lack of an older model, she'll probably just be a loyal ninja here. Edited by NeonZ, Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:22 pm.
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| Last_Stallion | Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:44 pm Post #1205 |
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Special Task Force A-01
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Oh cool, they made his face more generic and his helmet a little bit more fancy. How nice. |
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| wodash | Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:57 pm Post #1206 |
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undefeated in all directions
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at least he's not dead even before he has shown to the player ![]() is there even any fans of katsuyori here? seeing that his only notable feat is incompetently leading the Takedas to ruin in Nagashino
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| hozonov | Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:16 pm Post #1207 |
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First Lieutenant
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I kind of like him because he is a tragic character. I mean, he fails miserably and dies after being betrayed. He doesn't offer much more than that. In the Taiga drama he dies in episode 2, I think. I guess I got ignored with what I said about the woman next to Shingen at Kawanakajima. Edited by hozonov, Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:18 pm.
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| SRS | Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:25 pm Post #1208 |
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Master of the War Trident
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I like Katsuyori. I think he's a more interesting add than most other Takeda retainers. He also fought quite well under his father, and when he became daimyo he actually kicked Ieyasu's ass around a lot, even capturing castles that Shingen hadn't been able to take down. However, this consistent success likely inflated Katsuyori's confidence too much and thus Nagashino happened like it did. The gamble of potentially being able to take out both Nobunaga AND Ieyasu at the same time also likely blinded him to reason. Everything plummeted after that. Katsuyori was a good frontline commander but needed someone above him to check his reckless nature. My Takeda wanted list is Katsuyori, Yamagata Masakage and Kosaka Masanobu. Edited by SRS, Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:40 pm.
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| Raiko Z | Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:34 pm Post #1209 |
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Dynasty Recon Chinalands
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That's taboo to Koei. lol |
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| WarHawk | Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:39 pm Post #1210 |
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Where did bandana go?
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Katsuyori deserves Saburo's status. I hope Ujimasa will get the same treatment. as for more characters my bet - Goto Matabei and Honda Masanobu. First, we need Osaka defender. Second, antagonist as well... imho. Kimura Shigenari although sounds fun in duo with Matabei. Blaming mobile SW game for that. actually I am quite excited about this game. story. yeah, guess story still means a lot for me, sometime even more than gameplay. ow that Chacha/Yukimura shipping, it's so natural)) yeah I guess it's better than Kuno/Yuki. Edited by WarHawk, Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:40 pm.
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| wodash | Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:51 pm Post #1211 |
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undefeated in all directions
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huh?? ![]() it's Chacha the Tree Destroyer IIRC |
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| Manjiimortal | Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:52 pm Post #1212 |
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Han's Unifier
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He was a very able commander and a fierce warrior, managing to expand the Takeda territory beyond his father's reach, and even after Nagashino he survived 7 years. His issue is that he's usually flandarized as a totally incompetent fool. |
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| Mr.Stone | Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:47 pm Post #1213 |
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Beautiful End
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other new characters not will be added? |
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| Fūma | Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:39 pm Post #1214 |
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The Dragon Has Returned
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That's likely Battle of Omosu. Would be great because we haven't seen that one in the series yet. Interesting trailer, we have some footage of the new characters fighting... makes me wonder what are their moveset-types. I hope Sasuke won't end up being Hyper just because he's a ninja. All ninjas (except Goemon) were changed to Hyper-types in SW4, so I hope he will be an exception to make him distinguish more from the others. |
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| AntonKutovoi | Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:55 pm Post #1215 |
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Legend
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With Oda's iron ships present? That would be a little weird. |
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| Fūma | Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:07 pm Post #1216 |
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The Dragon Has Returned
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Could be Oda army as a third-army maybe. Or I don't know... maybe it isn't Omosu, it just crossed my mind because it's Takeda vs. Hojo and they already highlighted Katsuyori anyway. Don't see why it would be Kizugawaguchi ,though, because that doesn't involve the main cast here in any way. |
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| Valamanj | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:07 pm Post #1217 |
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Fine, twist my arm...
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Ahhhh, Koei, you lazy punks!! Oh well... guess all I can hope is that they put more effort into the aging system for SW5... |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:09 pm Post #1218 |
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Mewshuji
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So, I guess this means Chacha and Sasuke as they're presented are fully grown adults then? Or that we're supposed to see them that way. That's okay with me. I don't see it as lazy, with Chacha anyway, rather it's Koei not wanting to make a woman look ~too old~... game devs, especially in Japan, are weird with handling older women. |
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| Manjiimortal | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:18 pm Post #1219 |
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Han's Unifier
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In Japan they are obsessed about youth, specially in regards to women. A woman in her early 30's, at the peak of her life is already considered to be too old. That's why you don't really see middle-aged and old ladies in manga and anime. |
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| Valamanj | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:18 pm Post #1220 |
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Fine, twist my arm...
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I politely disagree, I see it as very lazy. They'll probably use some lame excuse for Kunoichi and pass off the same excuse for Sasuke so they can skip aging him as well. Even if you're right, I am continually disappointed by that double-standard. Older women shouldn't be so taboo in games. |
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| Makörë | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:21 pm Post #1221 |
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Makörë
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I saw a post once in the internet of relatively old japanese women, who looked extremely younger than what we could imagine. Dunno if its a common thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was and thats where they're coming from. |
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| Maya | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:29 pm Post #1222 |
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It's stupid not to age her since she had two children by Hideyoshi and was pushing 50 when she died. Also I can't see them doing much with her since Yukimura hardly interacts with her in the Taiga anymore. Edited by Maya, Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:30 pm.
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| Nenenenene | Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:42 pm Post #1223 |
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Well, Chacha is Nagamasa and Oichi's kid, so one expects her to be younger, even though she was born two years after Yukimura. Kinda like in Dynasty Warriors, Lu Xun marries Sun Ce and Da Qiao's daughter, yet Da Qiao is forever young. Through SW1 to SW4 Oichi and Masamune Date have been slowly aging while most of the cast have been time-stuck. |
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| The Outsider | Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:00 pm Post #1224 |
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The Demon's Rival
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So actually aging has made the whole thing more ****** up. I hope when it comes the next major installment be it DW9/SW5 (more like DW), if they're going to incorporate aging then it needs to be done on a broader scale. By no means should every character get a different appearance, but the relevant ones really do. |
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| Kunoichime | Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:05 pm Post #1225 |
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Talent.
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Before the JP trailer, I would say I was about 20% hyped for this as any other SW game, but after watching the trailer, I'm excited. I'm not really fussed about the age system. Younger Yukimura is kinda cool but not really here for it when they get older. I'm glad they introduced Sasuke; i'd been waiting for that, and I can't wait to see the interactions between him and Kunoichi. Not really sure what Chacha does apart from being Hideyori's mother and Oichi's daughter. I knew they added Masayuki and his design is good but I expected something more strategist-like. Was looking up info about the game and I saw something on KWiki about long-term battles with separate skirmishes, and the trailer showed a 3d map of something. i'd like to know more about those in particular. Will get it when it's out next year of course. |
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