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| Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada | |
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| Zai Tong | Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:05 pm Post #1226 |
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Well I have a co worker of South Korean descent who I thought was a teen she is Almost 40 so yea maybe koei just follows that |
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| Fūma | Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:12 pm Post #1227 |
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The Dragon Has Returned
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Well, at least they started the aging system here which is a plus, even if it's bare-bones (only applied to a few characters). It gives good hope that they might make do it on broader scale next time. But yeah, if they keep it in SW5, I don't expect it to apply to all characters, only those who stick around for many decades. So with that in mind we could exclude some characters like Yoshimoto because they're fine with just 1 model. |
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| SRS | Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:40 pm Post #1228 |
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My mom is almost 60 and she's been mistaken for my sister before. Asians and their fountain of youth genes, mang
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| Rance | Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:49 pm Post #1229 |
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aging female characters for KOEI means aging a 5 year old to a 12 year old lmao |
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| The Outsider | Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:55 am Post #1230 |
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Tbh that's how aging works mostly in Japan for female characters and that's in A LOT of media too. It's as if they just sprout younger versions of themselves past 35.
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| Katatonia | Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:06 am Post #1231 |
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People ask my mom all the time if she's my sister too but yeah, I would have hoped Chacha would have aged a bit more when she goes by Lady Yodo...I guess the oldest we'd get is Aya and I guess Naotora and Hayakawa are the oldest (time wise) after her? |
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| wodash | Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:08 am Post #1232 |
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you mean Her ![]() in all seriousness tho, Sasuke has a pretty deep voice for a girly midget guy ![]() finding the relevant ones would be hard tho, because of the overbloated number of the roster, in DW i can only think of Liu Bei for age progression(i miss the old creepy mustache version) since the other leaders dies way earlier and gets replaced every 2 stages, whereas characters like Guan Yu seems to have that massive stature and half meter beard ever since he has a baby, so yeah, age progression is also hard for him, and Zhang Fei while were at it, young Zhang Fei is basically Zhang Bao ![]() they gave him a Chen Gong face and a funny hat, that's like the most strategist-likeness as you can hope to be
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| SRS | Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:58 am Post #1233 |
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Characters that really should have age progression: Ieyasu- teen, adult(current), old Hideyoshi - adult(current), old Yoshihiro - adult, old(current) Takakage - teen(current), adult Mitsunari - teen, adult(his current is kinda in-between) Characters that could use age progression but don't really need it for various reasons Shingen Kiyomasa Toshiie Mitsuhide Gracia Kanetsugu Ina Takatora Kanbei Masamune Hayakawa |
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| Raiko Z | Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:25 am Post #1234 |
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Dynasty Recon Chinalands
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Inb4 they cut characters and make clone movesets in turn of applying aging system to everyone. You know, Koei and their dig-hole-fill-hole pattern. |
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| Rance | Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:14 am Post #1235 |
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I think it basically boils down to this: If a character appears often and over a long period of time, they should get some kind of aging. If a character is around for a relatively shorter (chronological) span of time, they probably don't need aging as much. Sometimes the design of a character and their role in the game matters too. Hanzo is going to be around for awhile but probably does not need to be aged...I'm not even sure what aging him would entail. for that reason, I'd say that figures such as the three unifiers, the Sanadas (if KOEI plans to focus on them), Mori Motonari and Shimazu Yoshihiro need some kind of aging. However, it would make perfect sense to age somebody like Tadakatsu too. Edited by Rance, Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:15 am.
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| Raiko Z | Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:26 am Post #1236 |
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Dynasty Recon Chinalands
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I was LOL-ed when I saw how they gave Motonari an older age. Slap on gray hair texture and a goatee. BOOM! Now he's an old man, cuz gray hair and goatee. I guess that would be the best thing they could do to the females. Gray hair and done with it. |
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| Fūma | Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:22 am Post #1237 |
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Has anyone else thought about how exactly would the "aging break points" be decided, either here or in future SW games? I was thinking something like this: - Okehazama-Mikatagahara (1560-1574) - Nagashino-Odawara (1575-1590) - Sekigahara campaign (1600) - Osaka campaign (1614-1615) The last two are kinda obvious because there are considerable time intervals between them (Sekigahara taking place 10 years after Odawara and Osaka 15 years after Sekigahara). But I'm not sure about the first two, I think they should basically just split the Okehazama-Odawara (1560-1590) time period into two since it has battles occuring pretty much every year and there's no clear gap where there could be an appropriate timeskip.. So Nagashino seems like a good choice since it takes place in 1575, exactly in the middle. That is only if the stories start in 1560 at the earliest: there might probably be some exceptions that need to start earlier like Mouri (if it has Itsukushima) or Hojo (if it has Kawagoe). They actually don't need much work because e.g in Itsukushima we only have Motonari & Takakage and possibly a new Mouri character sticking around so it's only a few extra models to design. So with that list in mind and talking about male characters only, we could need 4 models only for Ieyasu, the Sanadas (if they participate in very early Takeda battles), Kagekatsu, Takatora and probably a few others. As for females, it depends on if they really want to age them much, like we could have characters Kaihime and Hayakawa appearing in possibly all 4 time periods, but as said in previous posts, they may not want to mature their appearance that many times... They could also cut some corners by omitting characters who only make like one unprominent appearance in a certain time period. I think it would be understandable if the roster will be like 65-70 characters. But with some characters they have a legit excuse not to age them despite appearing in multiple time periods, like Kotaro, because he is immortal (as evidenced by one of his cutscenes from SW3Z). And it's possible that females will end up having that fate to a certain degree. |
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| Rance | Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:19 am Post #1238 |
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That's a pretty insightful post Fuuma. I basically agree with all of your points. Your periodization for aging makes sense to me, as does your rationale for when characters age. You already pointed out that some battles occur before Okehazama. Provided that KOEI keeps that in mind, everything should work out. If they were to ever expand the earlier period for characters such as those in the Takeda, Imagawa, Uesugi and Mori, they could have another age bracket for the period prior to 1560. Should they add in some of Nobunaga's battles before Okehazama, such as against the Tokugawa and Imagawa or during the civil war among the Oda, this also allows them to have a younger Nobunaga before his march to the capital. |
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| Fūma | Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:03 pm Post #1239 |
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Yeah, it seems like one more earlier age bracket would be necessary. So it could be like this then: 1. From Kawagoe to last battle before Okehazama (1545-1559) 2. From Okehazama to Mikatagahara (1560-1574) 3. From Nagashino to Odawara (1575-1590) 4. All battles occuring during Sekigahara (1600) 5. Osaka Campaign (1614-1615) They would be pretty even in terms of actual years. And with the very earliest age bracket included we could have two different models for Motonari, Ujiyasu, Shingen, Kenshin, Yoshimoto and possibly Nobunaga too (if they will include, say, Battle of Inou), which would be pretty cool since they're the big names of the early era. |
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| ttora | Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:42 pm Post #1240 |
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Immortal Kunoichi is a huge let-down. So she will be 15 years old next to 10 years old Yukimura up until he's in his late adulthood. The trailer didn't show much new gameplay elements, did it? Actually, I'm less hyped now. |
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| wodash | Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:38 pm Post #1241 |
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pretty much, it's the same old godspeed and musou attack showcase, which is predictable from way back, gameplay wise, the only mystery was how many/what characters will they add |
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| Raiko Z | Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:52 pm Post #1242 |
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I'm waiting for a scene where Kunoichi holds infant Yukimura. |
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| wodash | Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:01 pm Post #1243 |
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inb4 she is his mom, totally fits mom=Ninjas trope that Nene had brought
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| AntonKutovoi | Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:08 pm Post #1244 |
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Pfft. Takeda Nobutora is more likely. Or even watch her to appear, when they'll make Genpei Musou. |
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| wodash | Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:14 pm Post #1245 |
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Kunoichi holding infant Orochi KUNOICHI STANDING: a Kou Shibusawa game
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| SwordofHeaven | Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:14 pm Post #1246 |
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Is it wrong to say that I want Kunoichi drop baby Yukimura so that he can be a strong willed warrior?
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| Mark Robin | Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:03 pm Post #1247 |
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I think that's all the character. I don't think there will be more, unless they plan to do something with Toyotomi or Tokugawa members. Wow, Takeda Katsuyori becomes UNPC... this might be interesting. |
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| Zai Tong | Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:49 pm Post #1248 |
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Koei could, but they won't have it where older kunoichi is just the sw1 design where she actually looks like a young woman not a little girl but I don't want that childish voice to be associated with SW1 kunoichi |
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| Maya | Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:01 pm Post #1249 |
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That would be really boring and lame if they don't add more characters especially since the Taiga offers some ideas and they could finally make Yukimura's story less fictional with other Clan members and the Osaka defenders. I would laugh at the almost empty chart on the webpage and the claim they add more characters if they only add one more new character than Yukimura-den which was criticised for lack of new characters XD. Edited by Maya, Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:04 pm.
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| __Wang Yi__ | Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:47 am Post #1250 |
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Maybe it's a stereotype, but because of Japan's life style people seems to start aging later in life there... Isn't there some kind of new power up mode, coz the blue meter looks different... Edited by __Wang Yi__, Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:51 am.
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