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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,840 Views)
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Lady Muramatsu-Dono is playable? What is her weapon?
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Katatonia
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I can see Lady Muramatsu being quite popular. She'll probably be terribly cute. Then again, maybe not, if we go by Koei's CAW designs. They were kinda blegh looking in SW4E, save for a few, like Tazu. I believe her weapon is the naginata.

Also, that image with Chacha and Hideyoshi is gross. Go away. I mean I know it's historical, but eww. Oh and older Nobuyuki is a hunkasaurus :lol:
Edited by Katatonia, Tue Oct 4, 2016 5:10 pm.
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Tue Oct 4, 2016 5:01 pm
Lady Muramatsu-Dono is playable? What is her weapon?
We are assuming it might be the CAW Naginata.
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That pic of Chacha and :uki: pretty much gives hope that some people want to see him being a complete ass. If they make them lovey-dovey(which of course should never happened) then this game story is ruined.
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Added some of the latest info to the first post, will try to keep it updated as much as possible, including high quality scans when we get them :P

Wasn't expecting all these new additions, so I'm pleasantly surprised ^_^ though some of them were more or less obvious (or at least highly likely).
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Kuroda Kanbei
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I've never been to keen on Katsuyori inclusion but at least its bound to be interesting what Koei is going to do with him. Will they confirm the Sengoku loser the audience would expect or will they defy those expectations. Maybe having a son is going to give Shingen some much needed depth.

I hope Hidetate will be toned down at least a bit compared to his anime version. I'm no expert on his reign but he seemed to have been a decent Shogun.

Muramatsu I find to be a very questionable add. The brothers and their fathers are arguably required for a Sanada story but a sister is just to much. I don't see what they would add. The Sanada has more then enough characters by now. I believe they even rival unifier clans by now despite being a pretty small fry in the grand scheme of things. And isn't them being a small fry the point of the Sanada clan? Brilliance without the means to carry it to greatness? I'm pretty sure many characters have already commented on that. Wouldn't it be a bit of of character for them to dwarf all but the three most important of clans?
Edited by Kuroda Kanbei, Tue Oct 4, 2016 6:02 pm.
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I expect Muramatsu to be more of a plot device, rather than an important character in the story. She will be the reason why Yukimura goes to Azuchi (with her being Oda's hostage) and then there will be Escape from the Azuchi stage, where she will be playable.
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OMFG! Katsuyori is in? YES! FINALLY!

Muramatsu? eh, well she's ok I guess.

Hidetada...goddamit Koei why, his wife would have been a far better choice.

The range of emotions I went through reading about these characters confirmation :P

@Kanbei: I've been saying the same thing since SW4 came out, the sanada clan having more characters than the clans that actually are supposed to be huge(mori, date, shimazu, chosokabe) really diminishes what made them special in the first place. But now it'll be hilariously true, as they have 6 characters this time around(and could still get more). The previously tiny Sanada clan is now 3 times bigger than the Mori! lol

Also, that bit with Hideyoshi and Chacha looks like it's taking place at Shizugatake, it looks like we can see the fires being reflected in the background and on their faces.
Edited by bluefiend, Tue Oct 4, 2016 7:09 pm.
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Manjiimortal
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It's easy to make Katsuyori competent and capable.

Include some of his more famous feats during the battle of Mimasetoge, the 1572/73 campaign against the Tokugawa (specifically the Siege of Futamata), add the 1574 Siege of Takatejin where Katsuyori achieved a great victory over the Tokugawa, and then explain his reasoning for taking the risk he took at Nagashino (it had rained so he expected the gunpowder to be useless, how he, and everyone, thinks firearms become useless once you shoot them [never imagining that Nobunaga had developed a method for continuous fire], the great chance of the Takeda capturing and/or killing Ieyasu and Nobunaga, and note that you have to take risks in war, and that they can pay off even if you're greatly outnumbered[use examples like Okehazama, Shingen's victory at the battle of Sezawa, etc]).

Have Nagashino be more about the Oda strengths than Katsuyori's mistakes, thus elevating both sides rather than demeaning one greatly, and undermining the winning side because they were battling idiots.

You can also justify the Otate no Ran, how Katsuyori supported Kagekatsu because otherwise he'd be surrounded by the Hojo on one side, and the Hojo-led Uesugi on the other, and how the Takeda were at risk of being absorbed by the more powerful Hojo clan.

Explain, explain, explain and give logical and reasonable reasons for Katsuyori taking the decisions he did, which ended up being big mistakes, but at least they didn't come from a position of stupidity. Everyone makes mistakes, but that's not the same as being stupid or incompetent.
Edited by Manjiimortal, Tue Oct 4, 2016 7:03 pm.
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I wonder if all three will be UNPC or just Katsuyori.

Katsuyori doesnt look that unique or special. I guess they just chose to highlight him because he's gonna play some kind of role in the story, but he looks like an NPC.

Makes me wonder if Hidetada is just gonna retain his UNPC status from SW4-II and Muramatsu will just be one of those lame looking generic female CAWs from SW4E.

hoefull we get more scans later that confirm any of these (or the contrary, preferably).
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Tue Oct 4, 2016 7:05 pm.
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Why are people treating these CAW as new characters when their design is cheap and movesets are generic, my God.
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Tue Oct 4, 2016 7:04 pm
I wonder if all three will be UNPC or just Katsuyori.

Katsuyori doesnt look that unique or special. I guess they just chose to highlight him because he's gonna play some kind of role in the story, but he looks like an NPC.

Makes me wonder if Hidetada is just gonna retain his UNPC status from SW4-II and Muramatsu will just be one of those lame looking generic female CAWs from SW4E.

hoefull we get more scans later that confirm any of these (or the contrary, preferably).
Katsuyori and Hidetada might be playable, but I'm thinking that they should have voice actors by now.

Lady Matsui might be redesign to make it look unique as possible.

Speaking if generic weapons, I can see sword to Hidetada, Spear to Katsuyori, and maybe twin swords to Lady Matsu. Not surprise if it was nigatana instead.
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I think the naginata, sword, and spear are not saying that the new characters are just unpc, but saying the weapons have official holders rather then just create a warriors weapons.
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Tue Oct 4, 2016 10:33 am
new info from famitsu translated courtesy of BlackKite on twitter

https://twitter.com/bk2128/status/783237651025408000

Mature Nobuyuki Sanada confirmed.
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New characters:
  • Lady Muramatsu, the Elder Sister of Yukimura and Nobuyuki
  • Katsuyori Takeda, the Fifth Son of Shingen
  • Hidetada Tokugawa, Ieyasu's Successor
Screenshot of Young Chacha with Middle Age Hideyoshi in famitsu scan preview
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I am incredibly uncomfortable now ....
wodash
Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:21 am
i have a feeling Chacha will be the only female add
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Wait what's going on?

They added Katsuyori and Hideatada?? :o And Lady Muramatsu? :blink: Are they full playable characters????

And most importantly, why doesn't old Nobuyuki have a BEARD?! :beard: he doesn't look super manly like old Yukimura, what a shame.
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Tue Oct 4, 2016 7:58 pm
They added Katsuyori and Hideatada?? :o And Lady Muramatsu? :blink: Are they full playable characters????
glorified CAWS a la Empires most likely, seeing Katsuyori's rather vanilla looking weapon(skin), which makes the Hidetada announcement that much more understandable.

and Katsuyori's giant mug had been seen in the trailer(or was it scan/site screenshots?)weeks before this, someone actually posted that here IIRC
Edited by wodash, Tue Oct 4, 2016 11:21 pm.
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I KNEW MURAMATSU HAD A CHANCE!!!! HA!!!! GIVE ME MY MONEY!!!
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Tue Oct 4, 2016 11:22 pm
I KNEW MURAMATSU HAD A CHANCE!!!! HA!!!! GIVE ME MY MONEY!!!
💴 get yourself something nice :lol:

Really though, good call. Hope she's a decent character. Just hope they don't pull a Matsu and make her a pre-pubescent looking girl with big tatas
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Wow well this was a big surprise today! I expected at most 1 or 2 more characters for this game but just today we got 3 new ones.

Are there any pictures of Hidetada or Yukimura's sister? I see Katsuyori but he looks kinda blurry so I guess we'll have to wait for better pictures before I can make a final decision on how he looks.

I'm extremely happy about Katsuyori though, he's been one of my most requested characters for the series for years and years. Hidetada is cool too, a solid addition no doubt. I don't really know much about Yukimura's sister but I guess it makes sense given this game is all about Yukimura. I kind of wish they had added a different female though, Yukimura already has enough relationships as is and there are several other female characters who could add more in my opinion, but oh well.

I really hope these 3 new characters aren't just UNPC's though, that would be a huge let down if they have generic looks and generic movesets. They may as well have not put them in a scan and called them new characters if they're essentially glorified generics.
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Tue Oct 4, 2016 4:25 pm
I would say that Takeda Katsuyori was a good add so far. Tokugawa Hidetada wasn't surprise and Lady Matsui was somewhat surprise me.

What's next? Masayuki's wife and mature Inahime? (Toyotomi Hideyori as well?)
Mature, judicial Inahime in something closer to either a Buddhist nun's robes(stylized of course) or a prototype Shinsengumi-esque outfit.

It won't happen but I can dream.
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I think they could do a mature Ina pretty easily, just give her that alternate SW1 costume and age her face a little bit.

That aside, I have to say it's really strange that they would reveal 3 brand new playable characters all at once. I'm starting to think these guys are actually all UNPC's considering every other new character reveal for this game has been one at a time.
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 12:32 am
Wow well this was a big surprise today! I expected at most 1 or 2 more characters for this game but just today we got 3 new ones.

Are there any pictures of Hidetada or Yukimura's sister? I see Katsuyori but he looks kinda blurry so I guess we'll have to wait for better pictures before I can make a final decision on how he looks.
again, hold your horses, most likely they are just unique skins with generic moveset

EDIT:here's your Katsuyori up close

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Hidetada will prolly look like his Empires/Anime self, which model has been posted here before

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he might sport a new armor in this game but i'm 99% he will look not that much different from this
Edited by wodash, Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:51 am.
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Yeah I'm feeling these three will be characters to drive the story rather than for being unique playable characters.
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pretty much, it still looks like a glorified CAW no matter how you look at it, just that they will finally give him a unique VA, face, and more role in the story aside from their usual antics when they are still generics.
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So basically it's a Kagetora situation. Well that's kind of boring, although it'll be more interesting than keeping him generic.
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well, they prolly will eventually make him a unique character, just not anytime soon, unlike, NPC's like Kojiro, Katsuie, Aya, or Masanori before him, which just screams "will definitely get unique moveset and playable in the next numbered title/XL"
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