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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,838 Views)
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Manjiimortal
Wed Oct 5, 2016 11:56 am
And people really could be a little happier, because at last, after 14 games in the series (not counting State of War or Katana), and a lot of b****ing in this forum, we're finally getting a legit Takeda add for the game (Masayuki also counts as a Takeda add, he served them for over 20 years, but he's promoted as a Sanada more)!! Not since Shingen on the goddamned FIRST game in the series have we had a Takeda add!
It's perfectly reasonable to be disappointed or upset when you receive something that you wanted but it turns out sub-par.
I'm still waiting to see more of Katsuyori to fully judge but these initial impressions aren't very appealing.
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"What? Katsuyori is generic? Lame, he should've been UNPC"
"What? Katsuyori is UNPC? Lame, he should've been playable"
"What? Katsuyori is playable, but have almost the same appearance as he had as UNPC and a weapon that is in the game, but no playable character wields it? Lame, he should've been completely revamped".

Jesus Christ, people, he's not a main character here. He literally was made playable, so he wouldn't stuck as UNPC and players could use him on a stage or two and in the free mode.

Last_Stallion
Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:00 am
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 8:24 am
Why are people up in arms about "generic CAWs"?

You know who else started as characters with naginata/sword/etc?

Hideyoshi, Yoshimoto, Katsuie, Kojiro, Aya, Masanori
Yes, but those characters were unplayable when they used generic weapons. As soon as they became proper playable characters they were given unique movesets.
Katsuyori, on the other hand, appears to be a playable character with a generic weapon.
Wrong. Katsuie and Kojiro used generic movesets in SW2:E. They got a unique weapons in SW2:XL.
Edited by AntonKutovoi, Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:26 pm.
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AntonKutovoi
Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:26 pm
Wrong. Katsuie and Kojiro used generic movesets in SW2:E. They got a unique weapons in SW2:XL.
technically you can play as them as early as SW2, where they are even more generic, via Nene no Jutsu

in SW2E they were given a mishmash of specials and musou attacks IIRC that is not the main 3 generic moveset's

SW2 XL is interestingly the only XL game that came after an Empires title.....

Edited by wodash, Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:42 pm.
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AntonKutovoi
Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:26 pm
Wrong. Katsuie and Kojiro used generic movesets in SW2:E. They got a unique weapons in SW2:XL.
Technically they weren't generic movesets, they were amalgamations of other playable characters' movesets.
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 2:00 pm
AntonKutovoi
Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:26 pm
Wrong. Katsuie and Kojiro used generic movesets in SW2:E. They got a unique weapons in SW2:XL.
Technically they weren't generic movesets, they were amalgamations of other playable characters' movesets.
Yes I would like to highlight this as well.

I won't really have a problem with Katsuyori's moveset if it's a similar fusion of many characters' movesets who fight with a spear of sort. But if it's just the exact same CAW spear moveset, I can't say I'm not disappointed.

It's not that there's anything wrong with the moveset per se, in fact it's always been quite effective especially in crowd-clearing, but it's an old moveset we've already seen. Doesn't sound very exciting when they could have given him another brand new spear moveset instead.
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And that dosen't means that we are not "happy" with this new Katsuyori status.
It's just that mix of feelings where you know something it's better but it's not 100%, and just stays on that grey area.
Edited by Lazaroth, Wed Oct 5, 2016 2:18 pm.
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 2:16 pm
And that dosen't means that we are not "happy" with this new Katsuyori status.
It's just that mix of feelings where you know something it's better but it's not 100%, and just stays on that grey area.
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up.

Katsuyori will not be a main focus in the game, yes, but I don't think it's too much to ask for a new moveset that we haven't seen before.
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 2:20 pm
Katsuyori will not be a main focus in the game, yes, but I don't think it's too much to ask for a new moveset that we haven't seen before.
pretty much, even new characters like Masayuki is vanilla as heck, moveset-wise, so expecting yet another al new moveset aren't really pushing it since they don't seem to be even trying so far

obviously Sasuke and Chacha will have way flashier moves, but Masayuki's just flat out underwhelming, despite his own character design and weapon being pretty fancy
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Lol what?
Hidetada not regaining his anime design?
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Good gods old nobuyuki looks bad
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Well that's unexpected, they gave Hidetada a new design. I like it (even if the 4-II/Anime look was more unique for sure), specially him having a helmet that looks like the one his father used in SW2 and 3, in general it's a simple but nice-looking design, not too exaggerated with detail, nor making it too Anime. Katsuyori's the same, and hopefully this means designs for SW5 will be more like these rather than 4's more outlandish ones.

And Lady Muramatsu is actually covered up! Again, simple but perfectly nice stuff. Does it says what her weapon is? Katsuyori has the spear and Hidetada has the sword.
Edited by Manjiimortal, Wed Oct 5, 2016 4:52 pm.
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They changed Hidetada's voice actor. Damn.

Voice actors (not entirely sure, since it's hard to see kanji):
Katsuyori - Hiroshi Okamoto (Takakage)
Hidetada - Yusuke Handa (Mitsuhide in Sphere of Influence)
Muramatsu - Ayaka Maeda (Allura in Deception IV) I'm not entirely sure about her, since I can't see name clearly.
Edited by AntonKutovoi, Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:01 pm.
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AntonKutovoi
Wed Oct 5, 2016 4:53 pm
They changed Hidetada's voice actor. Damn.
They tried to make SW anime never existed like at ALL. At this point even Hideyori might get changed.

Also yes Muramatsu looks really REALLY nice.
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i like fat Hidetada better, this just makes him looks so detached from Ieyasu you'd wonder if it's actually Ieyasu who is in this game, maybe it's just Jirosaburo and the real handsome Ieyasu is dead long ago :rolleyes:

also he looks like an ungodly mashup between Nagamasa design and Takatora's color scheme :wacko:
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 4:57 pm
AntonKutovoi
Wed Oct 5, 2016 4:53 pm
They changed Hidetada's voice actor. Damn.
They tried to make SW anime never existed like at ALL. At this point even Hideyori might get changed.
Hidetada was a debut role for his VA (that's why I'm sad that a young promising VA got removed from the role), but if they'll change Hideyori, I'm afraid that an army of Kensho Ono's fangirls might tear Koei apart :XD
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i guess they will also change the entire charactersim for hidetada too, from an embittered Ieyasu successor who is striving to be as fat and successful as his dad while suffering from an inferiority complex and ninja phobia to a "you're a great handsome son, lead this country well, i totally approve" kind of character :wacko:
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JerkWithAHeartOfGold is ONLY for bishonen in JPN, they might think his anime design is useless because it won't gather enough fujo- i mean fans.
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Does it look like the CAW sword ?
I hope the Sanada girl will not use her scarf as her weapon, as we already have Koshosho for that...
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:09 pm
they might think his anime design is useless because it won't gather enough fujo- i mean fans.
Bob from Tekken begs to differ
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Hidetadaaaaa! What happened to him? Now he's just a generic pretty boy. Thanks Koei!

Muramatsu is cute though.

Still want to see Hidetada get slapped by Ina because that was the only thing she did in the anime
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:11 pm
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:09 pm
they might think his anime design is useless because it won't gather enough fujo- i mean fans.
Bob from Tekken begs to differ
Unfortunately this game has quite a heft fujo fanbase so..gonna pander to cetain community to raise the money ya know!!
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I'm not entirely sure that Muramatsu is playable, BTW.
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Does it look like the CAW sword ?
haven't played generic sword caw in SW4 so i dunno if the Musou attack looks like that for it

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I hope the Sanada girl will not use her scarf as her weapon, as we already have Koshosho for that...
no visible weapons so far, so that means headbutting is still open for method of attack, still heabutthurt from Chacha not headbutting people as her main method of attacking
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BlackKite confirmed on twitter that Katsuyori uses the CAW spear and Hidetada the CAW sword. No mention of Lady Muramatsu's weapon though.

Better pander to fujo fanbase than to racist, misogynistic, anit-social inbred "real gamers". F*** them all the pieces of trash, pitiful excuses of human beings.

Anything on the character description?
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