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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,836 Views)
Manjiimortal
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:42 pm
Why isn't Nobuyuki wearing different costume for his old design?
He's just a lazy old man.
I take my hat to you, you brilliant man!
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Whoa, you mean that the girl down there is Muramatsu? Then I doubt she will be generic in any way, I mean, c'mon, they're giving her a kid model as well, why would they even bother doing that if they weren't making her a normal character? Maybe in the next trailer, we will see her with a full movesets and the other ones will be the only ones generic.
I'd like to think you're right.

But, Hidetada has an older model, and he's generic. So, that logic sort of flies out the window.


Hidetada went from a pretty unique appearance in SW4-II to looking like Katsuyori in blue armor. That's kinda weird and annoying...

i've always disliked the concept of UNPCs. I've always been of the thought of they should just make the uniquely playable.
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Nah give older Ina a design is similar to her SOi she needs to look like she is the daughter of Tadakatsu only time she looked like that was sw1 XL
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:46 pm
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:42 pm
Why isn't Nobuyuki wearing different costume for his old design?
that, my friend, is called being consistent, and faithful

he totally learns it from fellow kindred spirits Musashi, Kojiro, and Goemon, who never changed their clothes for TEN FUKING YEARS


True men never change their duds. They are made men in them. :beard:
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I'm guessing next they might show aging system applied to Tokugawa clan characters. At least Inahime, Ieyasu and maybe Tadakatsu should be part of it.

I know a few guys here who definitely want to see how a Manlykatsu would look like :honda: :tonbogiri: :beard:
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wodash
Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:46 pm
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:42 pm
Why isn't Nobuyuki wearing different costume for his old design?
that, my friend, is called being consistent, and faithful

he totally learns it from fellow kindred spirits Musashi, Kojiro, and Goemon, who never changed their clothes for TEN FUKING YEARS


True men never change their duds. They are made men in them. :beard:
i know, which is why Basara is awesome and Yukiden is AU, the real Yukimura was born that big and dons the Thriller Jacket from birth to the end of time
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Whoa, you mean that the girl down there is Muramatsu? Then I doubt she will be generic in any way, I mean, c'mon, they're giving her a kid model as well, why would they even bother doing that if they weren't making her a normal character? Maybe in the next trailer, we will see her with a full movesets and the other ones will be the only ones generic.
I'd like to think you're right.

But, Hidetada has an older model, and he's generic. So, that logic sort of flies out the window.


Hidetada went from a pretty unique appearance in SW4-II to looking like Katsuyori in blue armor. That's kinda weird and annoying...

i've always disliked the concept of UNPCs. I've always been of the thought of they should just make the uniquely playable.
For gods sake!

Both Katsuyori and Hidetada ARE playable characters! Just because their design isn't an anime-inspired overdesigned mess like several from SW4, and because they lack a new weapon and moveset, that doesn't make them UNPC's, which aren't playable.
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:48 pm
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:51 am
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Whoa, you mean that the girl down there is Muramatsu? Then I doubt she will be generic in any way, I mean, c'mon, they're giving her a kid model as well, why would they even bother doing that if they weren't making her a normal character? Maybe in the next trailer, we will see her with a full movesets and the other ones will be the only ones generic.
I'd like to think you're right.

But, Hidetada has an older model, and he's generic. So, that logic sort of flies out the window.


Hidetada went from a pretty unique appearance in SW4-II to looking like Katsuyori in blue armor. That's kinda weird and annoying...

i've always disliked the concept of UNPCs. I've always been of the thought of they should just make the uniquely playable.
For gods sake!

Both Katsuyori and Hidetada ARE playable characters! Just because their design isn't an anime-inspired overdesigned mess like several from SW4, and because they lack a new weapon and moveset, that doesn't make them UNPC's, which aren't playable.
Sure, whatever. I didn't so much mean unplayable as I meant the lame generic weapon movesets which are lame and boring.

Thus "uniquely" playable.
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If Muramatsu does get the CAW naginata then Hidetada gonna be the only one with the good moveset. Naginata is okay but has boring charges, spear is just god awful all around.
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Do we really know for sure that their movesets will be exact same CAW sword and spear that we've all become familiar with the series? Because it's entirely possible that the movesets will be fusion movesets like how Kojiro & Katsuie had in SW2 Empires. That alone would make it a lot better, especially if they're mixed from many movesets.
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Sword moveset is boring as hell. But efficient. Its musou and final charge attack are at least very good.

The spear and naginata however are just atrocious. Poor Katsuyori.
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Hidetada is so... Badass Oo
I dislike the Tokugawa Shogunat (or better Fat Tanuki) and laughed as never when I saw him in the Anime (and 4-II) but this one is so... Gorgious Oo
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Do we really know for sure that their movesets will be exact same CAW sword and spear that we've all become familiar with the series? Because it's entirely possible that the movesets will be fusion movesets like how Kojiro & Katsuie had in SW2 Empires. That alone would make it a lot better, especially if they're mixed from many movesets.
I guess we don't, technically. But, both of them are using the same musous from those weapons. So all we know right now is both weapons have the one same move. Until we know more... *shrug*
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Looking at the screenshot of katsuyori it looks like the generic spear musou pose.

Naginata is at least more efficient, C2 of the spear never hits properly
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I zoomed in on the second scan and saw older Hidetada. Older Hidetada is very acceptable.

...his name also autocorrects to justice on my phone. Calling it, he's gonna be Ma Chao the second..or third or something :lol:
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All I can say is, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. There's another game with similar subject matter that more truly fits the idea of an utterly lazy cash-in. Everything we're being shown of this game indicates they really are pulling out all the stops, and the only way they could improve would be to make it flat out, more or less, Samurai Warriors 5, and go all out with revising game systems and such. It's much more a full game experience like Chronicles than anything like an expansion.

Of course, we could be being misled. In which case I'll gladly retract my statement.
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Oh im still super excited for the game. The characters we do have and that are unique are more than enough to keep me interested. And honestly, i've never cared that much or Katsuyori or Hidetada. It's just a shame they got the shaft.
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I'm pretty excited for the game and am going to buy as soon as it will be available here. For starters, 6 new characters positively surprised me. And the aging system is something I've been wanting in the series ever since SW2 so I'm glad to finally see it here.

Plus it also looks like the story might be more epic than ever since they have only 1 big story campaign to focus on here. In fact, the story could be potentially very good if they just play their cards right what comes to the writing (I know some people feel KT can't write good stories, but this game could be different because as I said, there's only 1 story this time, so they can put more effort in it).

And most importantly... it's Samurai Warriors. Yay.
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One thing i remember..i heard historically he isn't actually fat. So maybe just maybe they stay true to history..still salty though..
http://crocus29.tumblr.com/post/119089192826/tokugawa-hidetada

Found it. It stated he is muscular in history. But the thing is this true..we don't know yet!
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About the musous, I just hope rest of their moveset won't be same as generic sword & spear. C'moon KT, you gotta be more creative than that. At the very least make the charge attacks different.
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One thing i remember..i heard historically he isn't actually fat. So maybe just maybe they stay true to history..still salty though..
if they wanted to stay true to history then Masayuki wouldn't be looking like....that, either :wacko:
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The only problem I have with Hidetada is he doesn't really resemble Ieyasu. With the other one you could say "wow he is fat just like his father". On the other hand I like the arrogant attitude in his pose, it could mean he won't be too different in that sense.
We can't even know if Katsuyori looks like Shingen.
Nobuyuki can't have a beard if the protagonist of the story has a beard. Common sense.
And Muramatsu a cute. Wanna protect that older sister.
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Nobuyuki can't have a beard if the protagonist of the story has a beard. Common sense.
I'm sorry but what kind of logic is that? :blink:

Old Nobuyuki just doesn't look much, if any, older than his younger counterpart. They should've at least give him a stubble or something. He even has practically the same clothes too. Lame.
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One thing i remember..i heard historically he isn't actually fat. So maybe just maybe they stay true to history..still salty though..
if they wanted to stay true to history then Masayuki wouldn't be looking like....that, either :wacko:
It's typical for a game to cherry-picking certain historical characters designs. Remember Kiyomasa, know what he did to Christians?
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It's typical for a game to cherry-picking certain historical characters designs. Remember Kiyomasa, know what he did to Christians?
they removed cruelty against anything sensitive in pretty much all games nowadays, unless said character is named Nobunaga, and even then they had toned him down a lot lately in terms of being cruel in games too
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