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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,833 Views)
Ixbran
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 5:23 am
EDIT: Also, I must remind people to pay attention that this cute little girl is the ELDER sister of Nobuyuki and Yukimura. Koei and their age logic.
To be fair some times genetics can be really wonky. My sister is 5 years younger than me, and at 20, she could pass for 14, while I look roughly my own age if i have facial hair. I instantly lose 10 years if im freshly shaven. My younger brother is 15, im 28, and hes almost half a foot taller than me.

Genetics don't always pay attention to the rules people believe its supposed to follow.
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 5:25 am
Ixbran
Thu Oct 6, 2016 3:24 am
Was there anything that she was well known for in history? Writing, poetry, dancing? Maybe if we knew a bit about her historical self we could better gauge what her weapon might be.
She was known for writing and receiving letters, so a scroll or some kind of paper based weapon would make sense.
Hmmm, so possibly something similar to Tamomo or Chen Gong? Or maybe something similar to Ma Dai perhaps?
Edited by Ixbran, Thu Oct 6, 2016 5:43 am.
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 5:25 am
Ixbran
Thu Oct 6, 2016 3:24 am
Was there anything that she was well known for in history? Writing, poetry, dancing? Maybe if we knew a bit about her historical self we could better gauge what her weapon might be.
She was known for writing and receiving letters, so a scroll or some kind of paper based weapon would make sense.
She would be complained by Go Green activists.

#savepaper #bansamuriwariur #saynotomooruhmawtsooh #savetheworld #gogreen
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So Lady Muramatsu was announced with her younger age version which was Yukimura and Nobuyuki's sister. Still hoping to wait for Matsu and Ise to join the roster.
Edited by NaotoraYinping281, Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:11 am.
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Wed Oct 5, 2016 7:17 pm
Then that explains completely why Nobuyuki doesn't have a beard. He had it easier being part of side who won Sekigahara. Oh the luxury of being in the winner side.
I rest my case about The beards.
pretty much, the Toyotomis will lose eventually sooner or later, so Nobuyuki is literally chillaxing throughout the campaign...
bluefiend
Thu Oct 6, 2016 12:52 am
in SW4 he's basically begging people to betray him
that's why Nobunaga just LOVES Matsunaga's antics, he outright declares his betrayal and acted on it multiple times without the need of Nobunaga to do anything to make him do that other than forgiving him every time he failed
Raiko Z
Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:23 am
Last_Stallion
Thu Oct 6, 2016 5:25 am
Ixbran
Thu Oct 6, 2016 3:24 am
Was there anything that she was well known for in history? Writing, poetry, dancing? Maybe if we knew a bit about her historical self we could better gauge what her weapon might be.
She was known for writing and receiving letters, so a scroll or some kind of paper based weapon would make sense.
She would be complained by Go Green activists.

#savepaper #bansamuriwariur #saynotomooruhmawtsooh #savetheworld #gogreen
headbuttbeadbuttbheadbutheadbutheadbutt :beard:

headbutt or unplayable at all, it's the only two options

and she being the Lixia of this game sounds more and more plausible by the minute
Edited by wodash, Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:35 am.
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The Naginata wouldn't suit her I'd say going off appearances, but if she's playable at all it would make sense. Overall I find this bundle of characters pretty horrible but I'd like to think there's method in the madness. As for her not looking as generic as the other two characters, she's obviously not going to because we haven't an other female to compare her to.
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 8:02 am
The Naginata wouldn't suit her I'd say going off appearances, but if she's playable at all it would make sense. Overall I find this bundle of characters pretty horrible but I'd like to think there's method in the madness. As for her not looking as generic as the other two characters, she's obviously not going to because we haven't an other female to compare her to.
umm, ChaCha?
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No, I mean another female UNPC from SW4. Like we can see elements of UNPC in Katsuyori and Hidetada but we have no one to compare Muramatsu to.
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Basically Muramatsu's profile says she's the one always waiting for Yukimura and Nobuyuki's return at their home castle. The big sister who'll take care of you and watch over you after a long hard day of work, that sort of thing. So I really don't think she's going to be participating in battles, I think she'll be like the shopkeeper girl from previous games.

This is why I think there may be a chance for one more new character.
Edited by SRS, Thu Oct 6, 2016 8:34 am.
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Paper huh maybe something similar to kanetsugu but without the blade
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 8:31 am
Basically Muramatsu's profile says she's the one always waiting for Yukimura and Nobuyuki's return at their home castle. The big sister who'll take care of you and watch over you after a long hard day of work. So I really don't think she's going to be participating in battles, I think she'll be like the shopkeeper girl from previous games.
I'd quite like her in that role I think, it'd give some extra personality to a character who's doing something outside of battle. Although she's more important, but it'd kind of remind me of the camp conversations in DW where you'd get a reoccurring peon whose mood would change after every battle, It'd be good to get updates of her current mood after each battle despite not actually playing her.
Edited by The Outsider, Thu Oct 6, 2016 8:35 am.
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 8:31 am
Basically Muramatsu's profile says she's the one always waiting for Yukimura and Nobuyuki's return at their home castle. The big sister who'll take care of you and watch over you after a long hard day of work, that sort of thing. So I really don't think she's going to be participating in battles, I think she'll be like the shopkeeper girl from previous games.

This is why I think there may be a chance for one more new character.
How very... domestic. But then again, she appears to be just a woman from the Sengoku period, and the only noteworthy point was that she was married to Oyamada Shigemasa, a relative of Oyamada Nobushige whom betrayed Katsuyori at Temmukuzan. Considering Katsuyori interacts with the Sanada munchkins that might add an extra bit of drama to his death.

She also received correspondence from Yukimura, including when he was at Osaka, so there's that to work with too.

I think there's a chance that there will be more character adds for the reason that all of these adds are in some way related with Masayuki: Masayuki's master Katsuyori, Masayuki's daughter, Masayuki's enemy at Ueda, his most famous feat, and then there's Sasuke too, his son's ninja. Absent from this relationship net (they even included those on the magazine) is Chacha, who's completely absent, so it might be that a last batch of character adds will be related with her, with her son Hideyori being a major possibility, seeing as they added Hidetada, Hideyori was a special UNPC in 4-II like Hidetada, his mom is playable, and this is the best possible moment to add him to the series, with Osaka being a major focus of the game. They could even make that disturbance in Kyoto from 1611 into a battle skirmish to give Hideyori and Hidetada more playtime (which Hideyori badly needs).
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I think Hideyori is a worthless add and it is better to just have Chacha assume his role. As things stand, Chacha already partly interferes with the spotlight of Osaka defenders in the final stages. However, if they add Hideyori then things become even more muddled. Chacha's entire role in the series should be as the shadow supreme commander in the final chapter. If Hideyori usurps the role of supreme commander then Chacha is almost entirely worthless. Hideyori should be a special npc at most, and he should sit in his castle and take orders from everybody else like a good boy.

Of course, if there was a time to add Hideyori and Hidetada, it would be now. Of the two, I feel like Hidetada makes much more sense in a Sanada focused game. He's an obvious choice for an additional antagonist, possibly a heel given that he was not that competent as a commander.

I still think they should add another Osaka defender, and I'd still vouch for Chosokabe Morichika. Goto Mototsugu or Akashi Teruzumi represent other potential options. I'm not too fussed about which one they choose, but I think they should add at least one other one.

edit-I see the thread title notes Hidetada was already added. I missed that somewhere. My bad.
Edited by Rance, Thu Oct 6, 2016 10:20 am.
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I agree Hideyori is a pretty useless addition, important as a figure but useless as a playable character. He needs to feature but hopefully Koei will tell his story well with him remaining as a UNPC. In truth we have only seemingly received 3 new characters so far, Masayuki, ChaCha And Sasuke respectively and I feel like we should get another after this weird bundle of characters we've received.
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Better quality of hidetada's scan. ;)

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Hidetada's face really reminds me of Takatora...
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His younger one does yes.

Does anyone else agree that the older appearances see to dom' the younger ones. Masayuki, Yukimura and Hidetada all look better older, Nobuyuki is debatable.
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His younger one does yes.

Does anyone else agree that the older appearances see to dom' the younger ones. Masayuki, Yukimura and Hidetada all look better older, Nobuyuki is debatable.
Yup. Pretty much.
Well, except Nobuyuki. Old Nobuyuki is just... old Nobuyuki. Nothing special there :XD
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Hidetada looks similar to what I thought Tadaoki gonna look like (in terms of face). I actually like his new portrayal, I just do not really think it fits Hidetada. Part of me thinks that fat brat fits him more and somewhat unique... anyway this one is better overall.
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Thu Oct 6, 2016 10:13 am
I think Hideyori is a worthless add and it is better to just have Chacha assume his role. As things stand, Chacha already partly interferes with the spotlight of Osaka defenders in the final stages. However, if they add Hideyori then things become even more muddled. Chacha's entire role in the series should be as the shadow supreme commander in the final chapter. If Hideyori usurps the role of supreme commander then Chacha is almost entirely worthless. Hideyori should be a special npc at most, and he should sit in his castle and take orders from everybody else like a good boy.

Of course, if there was a time to add Hideyori and Hidetada, it would be now. Of the two, I feel like Hidetada makes much more sense in a Sanada focused game. He's an obvious choice for an additional antagonist, possibly a heel given that he was not that competent as a commander.

I still think they should add another Osaka defender, and I'd still vouch for Chosokabe Morichika. Goto Mototsugu or Akashi Teruzumi represent other potential options. I'm not too fussed about which one they choose, but I think they should add at least one other one.

edit-I see the thread title notes Hidetada was already added. I missed that somewhere. My bad.
wait what? What other role could Chacha possibly have other than being the supreme commander at Osaka? Have you been envisioning her as going to battle herself and taking all of Morichika's achievements this whole time or something similar to that? Is that why you've been so worried about her taking people's screentime?

I myself have never even seen such a thing as a possibility from her, I always just assumed she'd be the stages version of Zhuge Liang/Sima Yi in that she'll be constantly barking general orders from the castle(with Yukimura handling the more nuanced parts of those orders like telling who exactly needs to go where and when), get into a fight at some point when some ninja sneak attacks her (wherein she calls the player for help; or if playing as her she herself goes back to save Hideyori), then have a couple emotional moments with her family/friends on the other side.

Also, am I the only one that would have rather had Oeyo than Hidetada?
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I wanted Hidetada because I thought we'd be getting the tubby jerk with a noble heart from the anime, 4-II, and Empires, not some.... frankly super generic looking handsome dude.

If he keeps his personality, fine. In which case when do we get goddess-like-prettyboy Kenshin who otherwise keeps Kenshin's personality? But I have my doubts.
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Personally I like Hidetada's new appearance, he was a great Shogun despite his Ueda Castle blunder so I didn't like his kind of bumbling, bigger model. He's got an appearance of a man of power, I hope the arrogance remains though. I think the old Hidetada style would be better suited to someone more deplorable or prolifent.
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His younger one does yes.

Does anyone else agree that the older appearances see to dom' the younger ones. Masayuki, Yukimura and Hidetada all look better older, Nobuyuki is debatable.
Yup. Pretty much.
Well, except Nobuyuki. Old Nobuyuki is just... old Nobuyuki. Nothing special there :XD
Gotta agree with you guys.

I'm curious to see if we're gonna get an older Kanetsugu too, he'd look funny with a stubble or beard. I guess that largely depends on whether they have Kanetsugu participate in the Osaka campaign.
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Besides yazawa it appeared Masayuki had two other uncles as well toida and kanbara never understood why people in the same family would change their names
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No. Kanetsugu's older form needs to be a robot with remote controlled JUSTICE and LOVE fists which shoot out from his arms.
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No. Kanetsugu's older form needs to be a robot with remote controlled JUSTICE and LOVE fists which shoot out from his arms.
And that is why, kids, you should not take drugs.
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