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| Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada | |
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| Fūma | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:21 pm Post #1701 |
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The Dragon Has Returned
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I don't know, maybe they just want to have a more realistic approach here. Kids don't go to wars fighting with wooden weapons. |
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| JMSA | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:27 pm Post #1702 |
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Fūrinkazan
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I agree, as for Masamune, he had wooden swords and the design was great, but at least they were swords. Oichi was just ridiculous.
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| Fūma | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:30 pm Post #1703 |
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I just don't think the kids will be playable in battles because they've yet to show a single screenshot or gameplay footage where they would be fighting. |
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| wodash | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:31 pm Post #1704 |
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undefeated in all directions
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you definitely haven't watched Yatterman yet, those Kendamas are LETHAL ![]() also, this guy is Sarutobi Sasuke ![]() which hits me, they should've gave the Kendama moveset to Sasuke
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| Zai Tong | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:33 pm Post #1705 |
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StormBlessed
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Nah boy Genis Sage was a beast with that weapon |
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| UpInMahBubble | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:43 pm Post #1706 |
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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I don't see what would be so bad about DLC characters. They done it with Hyrule Warriors and they turned out great. Adds more longeivity onto the game anyway Let's hope the Japanese fans demand her as DLC, sucks the most unique looking design is NPC |
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| RPGNoZero | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:45 pm Post #1707 |
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"Because they should have been in the game in the first place!!! blablablablabla" |
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| Manjiimortal | Fri Oct 7, 2016 2:49 pm Post #1708 |
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Han's Unifier
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I agree with that, DLC characters would be a low blow. The only way I find that to be acceptable is if it's treated like a patch, on account of them lacking time to implement a moveset for her. |
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| Fūma | Fri Oct 7, 2016 3:10 pm Post #1709 |
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Yes. I'd much rather wait extra time for them to develop a moveset for her rather than pay extra money just because they were lazy and decided to sell an incomplete game. This kind of DLC practice is just lame and I fail to see how anyone can support it. It's basically "Hey, here's a cool character who you all are probably excited to use in battle, but wait, you have pay extra for it just because we're morons". If you support such practice it just encourages developers to release their game more and more incomplete. It's even worse if the content is already on the disc and you have to pay extra to "unlock" it. |
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| Mibu Kyoshiro | Fri Oct 7, 2016 3:15 pm Post #1710 |
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Awesome!
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| garnix | Fri Oct 7, 2016 3:40 pm Post #1711 |
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I agree. But Koei's policy in term of DLC has always been awful! Remember when we had to pay to use DW4 costumes in DW7, and then pay for the same thing again for DW8? It's actually the same case as the DLC movesets they sold us in DW7/DW8... Except that in SW there is no weapon switch, so if they want to sell a moveset it has either to be a CAW weapon, or a playable weapon for a UNPC... |
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| Uesugi Kenshin | Fri Oct 7, 2016 3:42 pm Post #1712 |
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Mewshuji
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I know it was answered slightly earlier... but allow me to go more in depth. Fujoshi is a self-mockingly perjorative Japanese term for fans of certain kinds of media, meaning "rotten girl". Specifically, they tend to enjoy either flat out yaoi or BL material, or material that lends itself towards shipping men together. There's also another subset of female Japanese fan that's cropped up since the mid 00's-- the pop history fan. I forget the exact term used, but basically, it's women who have become very interested in history, specifically the Sengoku era. It's a big enough group that it's actually driven up revenue towards ticket sales to historical sites and museums. And naturally, there's a fair bit of overlap between the two. While it's true that it's incredibly likely Koei is pandering to both groups in their games, to dismiss it as a bad thing and to use the term fujoshi perjoratively and with disrespect.... It reeks of bad taste to me. Why? Simply put, without all the money that these fanbases pump into SW merch sales, or stage show ticket sales, or anime DVD sales, the series would likely be slowed down, or worse, cease to exist. We have them to thank for the continued proliferation of the series. So if you want more Samurai Warriors.... don't look a gift horse in the mouth. |
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| Zai Tong | Fri Oct 7, 2016 4:32 pm Post #1713 |
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Game wise I disagree the rest probably right Edited by Zai Tong, Fri Oct 7, 2016 4:33 pm.
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| wodash | Fri Oct 7, 2016 5:00 pm Post #1714 |
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undefeated in all directions
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SW is worse since the first SW game that has DLC were so terrible in that the are trying to find a way to gain money from DLC by locking all regular weapon skins under DLC walls, these never happened even in DW, it's so ridiculous
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| JMSA | Fri Oct 7, 2016 6:14 pm Post #1715 |
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Fūrinkazan
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I completely agree. It wouldn't hurt at least a discount, we are pouring money into Koei anyway, nothing against DLCs as a whole but we are basically buying the same thing every time a game comes out. Also, "old" games like DW7 should have a DLC discount, it might encourage more people to buy them.
You see, it doesn't matter how you put it it's still a ball on a piece of wood.
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| Valamanj | Fri Oct 7, 2016 6:15 pm Post #1716 |
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Fine, twist my arm...
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Wasn't Ieyasu already like, 30 when Mikatagahara happened? His standard design can work for that age. I'd be willing to bet that he'll be given an older design since Hidetada has one. |
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| Fūma | Fri Oct 7, 2016 7:09 pm Post #1717 |
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Yes. I'm fairly sure that'll be his first appearance in the story and I guess that design can stick around quite long in the story. It's only at the Osaka campaign, which I presume will make the last third of the game, that he'll very likely to receive an older design, probably a more shogun kind of look with white facial hair (he should look old, he was about 70 during Osaka campaign). |
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| Zai Tong | Fri Oct 7, 2016 7:12 pm Post #1718 |
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Watch them give the sons of Yukimura and Nobuyuki semi unique designs because this is SANADA MARU and people freak out and rant about it |
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| UpInMahBubble | Fri Oct 7, 2016 7:16 pm Post #1719 |
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Who you calling a cute prince?
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How is that any different to any of the Xtreme Legends or SW4-II? or even the Basara expansions. Like all the stuff from DW7 XL for example could easily have been in the main game cause they really didn't change much at all. |
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| Fūma | Fri Oct 7, 2016 7:23 pm Post #1720 |
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It's not. The expansion pack practice, be it a physical copy (e.g XL) or abundant DLC, has never been friendly to our wallets. The only XL games I've ever bought are SW1XL & SW2XL, because most of the time I think it's not worth it. I've never liked that kind of business, I wish they just spent more time on each game to make them a more complete experience. If they have ideas for new characters or battles, they should save it for the next main entry instead. I don't like how they constantly have to update the games in shorter cycles because it gets expensive for the consumers. |
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| Makörë | Sat Oct 8, 2016 1:04 am Post #1721 |
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So, basically Ryö Genken is just generally being an ******* towards a group because they like something being done to men despite it having been done to women for the longest time in gaming? There is no issue in adding sex appeal stuff in the male characters, if anything, Capcom was being smart by adding costumes like those, as well as some things in SFV (hot Ryu, Urien undies), and Koei is not behind, since DOA5LR has many sexy DLC costumes for guys, and would be right to spread that to other games. The "straight male" stereotype for gamers is so horribly wrong and outdated. |
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| wodash | Sat Oct 8, 2016 2:23 am Post #1722 |
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how about if the ball is made of metal and the string attached is really sharp? well, at one point they really did ruin Basara, by flooding Loketests of it's Arcade game spinoff that real players cannot play and test it/give feedbacks, in turn the game was released as it is and was so broken that it was gone in a flash but yeah as Kenshin said, they are actually the ones that kept the Basara series afloat, the merchandise and non-game income of the franchise tends to beat the actual game sales and profit by like, tenfolds or so..... Capcom games with Basara type of budget and sales would prolly got shut down by Capcom years ago way before it's 10th anniversary if it not for the fact that it explodes in popularity on the Fujoshi community(which was at first not the goal at all), which then continues to support anything related to it, aside from the games(sadly) Edited by wodash, Sat Oct 8, 2016 2:39 am.
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| UpInMahBubble | Sat Oct 8, 2016 2:31 am Post #1723 |
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I wouldn't say it's for girls who like that stuff, moreso the ones who are borderline obsessed with their m/m ships and refuse to accept that people don't think the same way. But that's probably a discussion best saved for another topic. It is true about them basically keeping Basara going though. I wonder when the next PV will be? I wanna see some more gameplay |
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| SRS | Sat Oct 8, 2016 5:16 am Post #1724 |
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Umm... no. Fujoshi is like otaku, in that while there are normal, non-problematic ones, there are also obsessive, aggressive, problem-causers in the bunch. There's overlap with the slash fandom, as in the people who pair up characters romantically or sexually for their own enjoyment, not necessarily because it makes sense in-universe. I remember seeing on fanfiction.net quite a few of these gems... basically masturbatory stories with no plot and just having two men getting hot with each other. Like that one Xiahou Dun x Zhang He story... |
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| Ryō Genken | Sat Oct 8, 2016 5:26 am Post #1725 |
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Disciplined Mind
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I don't think you're correct about my preference in characters if you search my history. ![]() That said i'm just more bothered by the fujoshi's antics and wodash and SRS has explained why i' bothered by the fujoshi fandom that not just in SW but also in other game. |
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