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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,829 Views)
Rance
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 1:04 am
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Fri Oct 7, 2016 3:42 pm
I know it was answered slightly earlier... but allow me to go more in depth. Fujoshi is a self-mockingly perjorative Japanese term for fans of certain kinds of media, meaning "rotten girl". Specifically, they tend to enjoy either flat out yaoi or BL material, or material that lends itself towards shipping men together. There's also another subset of female Japanese fan that's cropped up since the mid 00's-- the pop history fan. I forget the exact term used, but basically, it's women who have become very interested in history, specifically the Sengoku era. It's a big enough group that it's actually driven up revenue towards ticket sales to historical sites and museums. And naturally, there's a fair bit of overlap between the two.

While it's true that it's incredibly likely Koei is pandering to both groups in their games, to dismiss it as a bad thing and to use the term fujoshi perjoratively and with disrespect.... It reeks of bad taste to me. Why? Simply put, without all the money that these fanbases pump into SW merch sales, or stage show ticket sales, or anime DVD sales, the series would likely be slowed down, or worse, cease to exist.

We have them to thank for the continued proliferation of the series. So if you want more Samurai Warriors.... don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
So, basically Ryö Genken is just generally being an ******* towards a group because they like something being done to men despite it having been done to women for the longest time in gaming? There is no issue in adding sex appeal stuff in the male characters, if anything, Capcom was being smart by adding costumes like those, as well as some things in SFV (hot Ryu, Urien undies), and Koei is not behind, since DOA5LR has many sexy DLC costumes for guys, and would be right to spread that to other games. The "straight male" stereotype for gamers is so horribly wrong and outdated.
Honestly no. Mewshuji just gave you a terrible definition of the term which exaggerates its negative connotation. Sometimes the Japanese use terms which sound overtly insulting in English, but are used a lot more casually. Fujoshi is one of those terms, just like the way Japanese casually throw around the term kuso (sh1t) with everything but mean it in a mostly innocuous prodding way. Fujoshi is not an outright insult or derogatory term and you would probably find many examples of people referring to themselves as fujoshi.

As usual Mewshuji is just secretly causing chaos and trouble while pretending to be innocent! I'm onto your tricks Mew! :oran:
Edited by Rance, Sat Oct 8, 2016 5:31 am.
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Oh! We have other boys love fans in here? OMG, I become a puddle of joy whenever I see Yoshitsugu and Mitsunari together :P ! ugh, it's like they were obviously meant to be together, why did Ieyasu have to tear them apart?! Mitsunari won't ever love you that way Ieyasu! :cry: But that's ok true luv always prevails, even if it was heartbreaking Yoshitsugu and Mitsunari get to be together in the afterlife, I bursted into tears when Yoshitsugu killed himself just to be with Mitsunari again! :cry:

:wub: YxM is the true OTP! :wub:

If you also believe in true love, then like this post to show your support!
Edited by bluefiend, Sat Oct 8, 2016 6:03 am.
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As a gay guy some fan pandering of scantly clad men are always appreciated, though honestly I would love to see more masculine men in little clothing. Huang Gai in DW8 for example! Or Meng Huo from DW6 👄✨💖

or hell even Meng Huo from DW8, I am not ashamed to admit I love heavy set guys and Meng Huo is just

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👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good **** go౦ԁ ****👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌**** right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌

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right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there

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(chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good ****!

Zhurong doesn't deserve him I'm just laying that out on the table right now.
I'm sorry for going so off topic just tossing out that Male Fanservice is always appreciated in a market where its usually 90% jiggling ass 'n tiddies.
Edited by Ixbran, Sat Oct 8, 2016 9:04 am.
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Whatever happened to the days when SW was loved because it was about war fighting killing hope despair revenge justice redemption What happened ?
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 9:29 am
Whatever happened to the days when SW was loved because it was about war fighting killing hope despair revenge justice redemption What happened ?
History Elitists started complaining about historical inaccuracy, the appearance of playable female fighters, and the usage of non historically accurate weapons.

If any of these things happen, they will complain endlessly.
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 2:23 am
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You see, it doesn't matter how you put it it's still a ball on a piece of wood. :XD
how about if the ball is made of metal and the string attached is really sharp?
Makörë
Sat Oct 8, 2016 1:04 am
So, basically Ryö Genken is just generally being an ******* towards a group because they like something being done to men despite it having been done to women for the longest time in gaming?
well, at one point they really did ruin Basara, by flooding Loketests of it's Arcade game spinoff that real players cannot play and test it/give feedbacks, in turn the game was released as it is and was so broken that it was gone in a flash

but yeah as Kenshin said, they are actually the ones that kept the Basara series afloat, the merchandise and non-game income of the franchise tends to beat the actual game sales and profit by like, tenfolds or so.....

Capcom games with Basara type of budget and sales would prolly got shut down by Capcom years ago way before it's 10th anniversary if it not for the fact that it explodes in popularity on the Fujoshi community(which was at first not the goal at all), which then continues to support anything related to it, aside from the games(sadly)
Dude, Sasuke in the manga strangled a bunch of people with his kendama string while bashing their heads with the simple wooden ball, weapons are overrated. :doge: As Yukimura said in SDK "It's not the sword that kills people, it's the technique" before slicing through thugs with a fishing pole. :rolleyes:

Also, all you sexist pigus forget about the fudanshis...shame on you. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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omg what happened with this thread)
well, back to the topic - do you guys think that Hideori will be Naginata user or it's for someone else? Naginata is half spear right. I mean spear with the blade. Polearm. Goto used spear, right? So, Goto with Naginata! tada!
I know my logic abillity is amazing.
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 12:07 pm
well, back to the topic - do you guys think that Hideori will be Naginata user or it's for someone else? Naginata is half spear right. I mean spear with the blade. Polearm. Goto used spear, right? So, Goto with Naginata! tada!
I know my logic abillity is amazing.
Hideyori with the Chronicles female CAW twin blade moveset

i am awesome
Edited by wodash, Sat Oct 8, 2016 2:54 pm.
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I don't think he will have anything else than his SW4E appearence. Unless they make him even younger than Chacha, which will almost make him a kid.
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I don't think he will have anything else than his SW4E appearence. Unless they make him even younger than Chacha, which will almost make him a kid.
that would suck, i mean Hideyori's only crowning moment in SW were when he kicked everyone's arse on a debate during the meeting in Osaka that one time in the animu, it would be a bit lame if that was done by a kid character :uh:
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I don't think he will have anything else than his SW4E appearence. Unless they make him even younger than Chacha, which will almost make him a kid.
that would suck, i mean Hideyori's only crowning moment in SW were when he kicked everyone's arse on a debate during the meeting in Osaka that one time in the animu, it would be a bit lame if that was done by a kid character :uh:
Do you expect a complex debate in a SW game? Even if it was, a kid beating a bunch of old men in an argument, specially since Koei likes to make their old men boast about how old and experienced they are.
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 2:54 pm
I don't think he will have anything else than his SW4E appearence. Unless they make him even younger than Chacha, which will almost make him a kid.
that would suck, i mean Hideyori's only crowning moment in SW were when he kicked everyone's arse on a debate during the meeting in Osaka that one time in the animu, it would be a bit lame if that was done by a kid character :uh:
Do you expect a complex debate in a SW game? Even if it was, a kid beating a bunch of old men in an argument, specially since Koei likes to make their old men boast about how old and experienced they are.
Debate minigame>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stupid Fishing minigame, all day every day

it was great in ROTK, i can't see why they don't use it on other games....
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 3:51 pm
Debate minigame>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stupid Fishing minigame, all day every day

it was great in ROTK, i can't see why they don't use it on other games....
Simple, really, because SW is an action game and not that much focused on strategy, except the Empires expansions. And the fishing minigame is only an excuse from Koei to say "Hey, we're adding something other than characters", its not a thing anyone will actually see as a feature.
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Yeah the fishing minigame is purely fluff. It adds nothing of real consequence, kind of like when KOEI bragged about how they added "swimming" and "climbing." WOW KOEI! HOW INNOVATIVE!!!
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 4:43 pm
Yeah the fishing minigame is purely fluff. It adds nothing of real consequence, kind of like when KOEI bragged about how they added "swimming" and "climbing." WOW KOEI! HOW INNOVATIVE!!!
sadly the most awesome and innovative feature in DW6 is breaking open gates using brute force, something that they did not advertise as awesome nor did they bring it back in subsequent games, bravo :wacko:
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Yeah the fishing minigame is purely fluff. It adds nothing of real consequence, kind of like when KOEI bragged about how they added "swimming" and "climbing." WOW KOEI! HOW INNOVATIVE!!!
Well.... they could have brought in a different mini game for single player and online something like Crash Bash but in JPN style.

The polar bear riding stages in Crash Bash - Ride around horses and try to kick ppl off and off the stage, until the last person remains.

Throwing crates at your opponent in Crash Bash - Have 4 ppl together fight each other. There can be mini alliances to fight your opponent. The alliance can last like 15 seconds or 30 seconds. You can send out troops to attack and random debuff happens like attack down, no musou, and speed down.

:D :D :D

Sometimes, I wish they could be more creative with their work.
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Crash Bash was a fun game, but you're asking too much of KOEI. :^)
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I don't think he will have anything else than his SW4E appearence. Unless they make him even younger than Chacha, which will almost make him a kid.
that would suck, i mean Hideyori's only crowning moment in SW were when he kicked everyone's arse on a debate during the meeting in Osaka that one time in the animu, it would be a bit lame if that was done by a kid character :uh:
Is that so you must not know about .........Her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg7ijMXBv2k
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This thread almost gave me a cancer.

But then I saw people talking about Crash Bandicoot and it made me happy.

There should be a mini-game in Sanada Maru where you play as Yukimura and break boxes while collecting Sanada coins. If you find three Shingen's masks you get temporary invincibility from enemy attacks.
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The newest addition to the Sanadamaru taiga is Hatsu. Now all Azai sisters are casted on the drama.
I hope that we will see Gou and Hatsu in the future for Chacha as well.
Edited by Maya, Sat Oct 8, 2016 9:32 pm.
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This thread almost gave me a cancer.

But then I saw people talking about Crash Bandicoot and it made me happy.

There should be a mini-game in Sanada Maru where you play as Yukimura and break boxes while collecting Sanada coins. If you find three Shingen's masks you get temporary invincibility from enemy attacks.
You said this thread gave you cancer and then bring up this idea? What kinda of logic is that?
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Yeah, Crash Bash was awesome, fishing is not. So yeah, I am all for Sanada Bash.
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They should make the winter siege of Osaka be based on Polar Panic where you have to push off invading Tokugawa soldiers while riding on the polar bear.

Or, if there will be the Kizugawa battle of Osaka campaign, you have to push off Tokugawa soldiers off the naval ship.

I'm fine either way.
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The newest addition to the Sanadamaru taiga is Hatsu. Now all Azai sisters are casted on the drama.
I hope that we will see Gou and Hatsu in the future for Chacha as well.
Oh snaps! I wasn't expecting to see any of the other Azai sisters in the drama! sweet! looking forward to that ep.

And who knows maybe the other 2 actually will show up in Sanadamaru. Though really I think we should get one per game until we have them all, any 1 Azai sister can have a good story on their own. Any 2 can have a better story, and it's at it's best with all 3.

Oh, it looks like she's already a nun at that point in the drama? So I assume that scene takes place after 1604?
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Samurai Bash Warriors? :wacko:

KT did managed to have a more interesting concepts of minigames inSW1 and XL, and to some extent, WO2/Maou Sairin, but alas those were all but forgotten

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