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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,822 Views)
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I think it was more Yukimura leaving the family. Masayuki barely exists in SW4 (except as an NPC, but he's by and large irrelevant to the whole drama) so Nobuyuki wa technically the head of the Sanada Clan and ordered the clan to side with the Tokugawa and Yukimura was all "nah dawg" and split.

But he didnt have anyone other than Ina over there. Yukimura, Kunoichi, and his NPC barely relevant daddy and just about every NPC Sanada/Takeda retainer sided with Mitsunari. So Nobuyuki was totally solo, is what I meant.
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Sat Oct 8, 2016 8:24 am
As a gay guy some fan pandering of scantly clad men are always appreciated, though honestly I would love to see more masculine men in little clothing. Huang Gai in DW8 for example! Or Meng Huo from DW6 👄✨💖

or hell even Meng Huo from DW8, I am not ashamed to admit I love heavy set guys and Meng Huo is just

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right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there

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(chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good ****!

Zhurong doesn't deserve him I'm just laying that out on the table right now.
I'm sorry for going so off topic just tossing out that Male Fanservice is always appreciated in a market where its usually 90% jiggling ass 'n tiddies.
@Makore, Fuuma and Eni. :smugracia: :2up: :dance:

Guys do we know if Katsuyori and Hidetada are playable? I forget if we decided they were special npcs or actual characters. Katsuyori's weapon looked really generic to me so I wasn't sure.

While I'm not a big fan of Hidetada's new design, I'm hoping they expand on his relationship with Nobuyuki and give him an interesting personality. I'd like him to be kind of like Yuan Shao: competent and demonstrating bravado at times yet excessively arrogant because of his lineage/status.
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Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:16 am
Guys do we know if Katsuyori and Hidetada are playable? I forget if we decided they were special npcs or actual characters. Katsuyori's weapon looked really generic to me so I wasn't sure.

While I'm not a big fan of Hidetada's new design, I'm hoping they expand on his relationship with Nobuyuki and give him an interesting personality. I'd like him to be kind of like Yuan Shao: competent and demonstrating bravado at times yet excessively arrogant because of his lineage/status.
Yes, they are playable, but with CAW weapons. Katsuyori is playable since beginning, Hidetada needs to be unlocked.
And I'm having a deja vu. Didn't we have this conversation before? :blink:
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We probably did but I've been doing a lot of other **** so my memory is bad I guess. Alright great, so they're playable but boring. Got it.

Reason I asked is because I was having some conversation about the game somewhere else.
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So I finally picked up SW4E, and I noticed that Teruzumi and Morichika don't have CAW-type designs in there while Matabei, Masayasu and Katsunaga do. I wonder if that might hint toward Koei's priorities on the Osaka defenders...

I quickly rectified the generic Teruzumi and Morichika problem of course.
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Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:02 am
So I finally picked up SW4E, and I noticed that Teruzumi and Morichika don't have CAW-type designs in there while Matabei, Masayasu and Katsunaga do. I wonder if that might hint toward Koei's priorities on the Osaka defenders...

I quickly rectified the generic Teruzumi and Morichika problem of course.
Koei seems to have something against Morichika seeing as he wasn't made a UNPC in E4, and he also didn't got a design for 100man (and did he got one for Guntama?). I don't get their rationale.
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Rance
Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:16 am
@Makore, Fuuma and Eni. :smugracia: :2up: :dance:
Umm...

what? :confused:

Gracia is a cool character? Well yeah she is.
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Rance
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Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:02 am
So I finally picked up SW4E, and I noticed that Teruzumi and Morichika don't have CAW-type designs in there while Matabei, Masayasu and Katsunaga do. I wonder if that might hint toward Koei's priorities on the Osaka defenders...

I quickly rectified the generic Teruzumi and Morichika problem of course.
I'd weigh that against the fact that Morichika appears as a relatively major character in NA: SOI and seems to be featured in a prominent way in their storyline for the Osaka tinged sequel. I get that Omega Force is a different department of KOEI, but they're still within the same overall company. KOEI has paid attention to Morichika before, such as in Kessen.

I don't think Katsunaga and Masayasu are likely, but I do think that Goto is. That's not my personal preference. It's just my speculation. I wouldn't rule Morichika out either, or Akashi for that matter.
Edited by Rance, Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:01 am.
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Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:47 am
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Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:03 pm
Toyohisa is not a rival to anyone, because he can't beat or offer a challenge to pretty much no one. The only thing that keeps him high on my opinion is the fact that he headshot Naotora.
that's why the Shimazu descendants requested for Drifters to be made :rolleyes:

inb4 Drifters crossover DLC for Toyohisa in Sanadamaru :haha:
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You got it wrong, INB4 Tecmo makes Drifters game and they use KOEI's Toyohisa costumes for that. :doge:

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:30 am
You got it wrong, INB4 Tecmo makes Drifters game and they use KOEI's Toyohisa costumes for that. :doge:

-Tecmo side

-Making actual new games out of their own volition

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they only do sequels/spinoffs/hand me downs from Shibusawa now :rolleyes:

that aside tho, it's been a while since there's a new info, tho after looking at the last trailer i am convinced the music in this one is going to be breddy gud, and different from all previous SW games.
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Where did I deny that Shibusawa wouldn't be involved? :doge: ...INB4 Drifters DLC in NiOh. :haha:
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Guys, I want to make Chacha and Sasuke in SW4, can anyone link me to an image of them without a background so I can use it as a portrait? I got one for Lady Muramatsu, but I only found images of Chacha and Sasuke with a red background that I can't photoshop for ****.
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I could only find one of Sasuke. Hope this is good enough

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Samurai-Warriors-1.jpg
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Wonde if nagashino will get revamped as well
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Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:00 am
I could only find one of Sasuke. Hope this is good enough

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Samurai-Warriors-1.jpg
I don't think it will work. The background should be easy to deal with, but the image has a very low resolution. But still, thanks.
Koei Wiki has perfectly sized ones for both Chacha and Sasuke, but they have a red background, unless someone removed it through Photoshop, I can't use them.
Edited by Makörë, Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:42 pm.
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I liked episode number 41 of Sanadamaru.

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Goodbye Kudoyama and finally the beginning of the Siege phase.

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Yukimura still seems to be haunted by the death of his first love and wife, Hotta's sister, who died due to the Tokugawa in the series. It's his big trauma and basically why he dislikes the Tokugawa in the series. When Akihime declared that she wants to fight as well Yukimura flipped and basically said that this won't happen. She has been compared to his first love over and over again since they are so damn similar.

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Ina finally gained a softer expression!

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Also the return of Chacha. I really regret that the game won't properly age up Chacha for the Siege. She would look much more impressive in an adult form.

Also two new characters in the next episode.

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Senhime will finally join.

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As well as Kimura Shigenari

I kinda have to praise the producers of the series for the casting of the young teen who plays Daisuke by the way. They actually bothered to search for a young teen who resembles the actor of Yukimura and the actress of Akihime.

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Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:31 am
Guys, I want to make Chacha and Sasuke in SW4, can anyone link me to an image of them without a background so I can use it as a portrait? I got one for Lady Muramatsu, but I only found images of Chacha and Sasuke with a red background that I can't photoshop for ****.
I forgot to put the render in the logbook, but the rendered image is in this thread, I think you can use that

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/9010018/1/#new

It's in my post with the finished signature, in the spoiler :)
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Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:05 am
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A very interesting post. He might be only reliable as Masayuki more during Takeda reign. If his role expand to the point that he participate to Sekigahara and support Nobuyuki or Masyuki, it will be indeed well put.

Kimura Shige is interesting choice, but... he is only going to be one stage appearance, unless the Osaka Castle divide into two stages.
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Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:51 pm
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Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:31 am
Guys, I want to make Chacha and Sasuke in SW4, can anyone link me to an image of them without a background so I can use it as a portrait? I got one for Lady Muramatsu, but I only found images of Chacha and Sasuke with a red background that I can't photoshop for ****.
I forgot to put the render in the logbook, but the rendered image is in this thread, I think you can use that

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/9010018/1/#new

It's in my post with the finished signature, in the spoiler :)
Ah, excellent. Thanks. Now I just need Chacha.
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Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:33 pm
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Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:51 pm
Makörë
Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:31 am
Guys, I want to make Chacha and Sasuke in SW4, can anyone link me to an image of them without a background so I can use it as a portrait? I got one for Lady Muramatsu, but I only found images of Chacha and Sasuke with a red background that I can't photoshop for ****.
I forgot to put the render in the logbook, but the rendered image is in this thread, I think you can use that

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/9010018/1/#new

It's in my post with the finished signature, in the spoiler :)
Ah, excellent. Thanks. Now I just need Chacha.
Found Chacha as well :)

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/9000897/1/#new
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PNG-original images work like normal PNG ones, right? I hope so, anyway, thanks. I love that image upload feature, it makes it look like the character is actually there, despite being a CAW.
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This aging system thing is going to be terrible for the series long term. Certain characters already struggle for screentime as is due to their birth and death dates. But now that the series has an aging system Koei can't take liberties with characters anymore, that means no more Ina at Mikatagahara, no more Sanada bros serving the Takeda, no more Masamune appearing before 1585 or 82(I forget which), Kanetsugu can no longer serve the Uesugi until after Otate no ran, and every current Kyushu character with the sole exception of Yoshihiro is unable to fight until 1583. And Ranmaru, having been in 1565 and having died in 1582, may as well disappear from the games as the only thing he could participate in is the destruction of the Takeda.

All in all, this seems like a terrible feature for the samurai series when all we get in exchange are a couple character models that are smaller than normal. Still at least it was enough to finally kick the sanada bros out of the Takeda, but this never even required the aging feature anyway, just expansion of the sanada conflicts.

Does anyone see a way out of the aging system crippling certain characters to just a couple stages going forward?
Edited by bluefiend, Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:12 am.
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I think you're over analyzing it. Aging characters does not require them to follow history at all. They can take whatever liberties they want.
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Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:14 am
I think you're over analyzing it. Aging characters does not require them to follow history at all. They can take whatever liberties they want.
I think your right. Good point.

But even so it's strange that they're using it thus far to follow history. But then again this game might end up being the exception rather than the rule considering it's status as a spinoff/side game.
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This aging system thing is going to be terrible for the series long term. Certain characters already struggle for screentime as is due to their birth and death dates. But now that the series has an aging system Koei can't take liberties with characters anymore, that means no more Ina at Mikatagahara, no more Sanada bros serving the Takeda, no more Masamune appearing before 1585 or 82(I forget which), Kanetsugu can no longer serve the Uesugi until after Otate no ran, and every current Kyushu character with the sole exception of Yoshihiro is unable to fight until 1583. And Ranmaru, having been in 1565 and having died in 1582, may as well disappear from the games as the only thing he could participate in is the destruction of the Takeda.

All in all, this seems like a terrible feature for the samurai series when all we get in exchange are a couple character models that are smaller than normal. Still at least it was enough to finally kick the sanada bros out of the Takeda, but this never even required the aging feature anyway, just expansion of the sanada conflicts.

Does anyone see a way out of the aging system crippling certain characters to just a couple stages going forward?
Okay, first, you didn't really give many good examples of characters losing screentime. Ina makes no difference at Mikatagahara (or anywhere, for that matter), Yukimura and Nobuyuki in the early Takeda days is an absurd stretch and Masayuki should cover them now, the Uesugi could use another early Uesugi officer instead of Kanetsugu (like Kagetora and Hana, for example), and while Kyūshū would indeed lose Ginchiyo, Muneshige and Toyohisa's screentime, it would certainly benefit more from other characters, like Sōrin Ōtomo or Takanobu Ryūzōji, for example.

Also, like said above, you're overthinking it a lot. Aging would certainly require some stretches to be removed (Sanada bros. with the Takeda) and characters to be added as replacements, but that doesn't mean that there would be no place for liberties. Its not like the aging system would add all of them as kids. At best we would see things like characters from before Odawara looking older afterwards, maybe a younger Ujiyasu, Kenshin or Nobunaga...
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