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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,891 Views)
Ryō Genken
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Just need more wrinkles on him actually to make him look older. As of now, he's too Chen Gong-y.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:19 pm
Older, the one next to bearded Yukimura, they look more like brothers there.
I don't think we will see Higemura next to his father in the game, though. Most likely Yukimura will grow beard at Osaka and Masayuki will be dead at this point already.
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frankly, i've always found the Sanada story to be one of the more compelling narratives in the game (and in history, but more so the games) so a more fleshed out version of that with new characters to fill in the gaps is something im all for.

Nobuyuki also being my boo, well...maybe im biased.
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If they made the older version have full white hair it could have been way better.
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hozonov
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So, will there be an older Nobuyuki? beard-Nobuyuki?
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:57 am
Some more info.

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Battles are “Long-Term Battles” that span several battlefields. For example, in the “Battle of Kawanakajima” between the House of Sanada and House of Uesugi, you’ll need to clear three battles—the “Saijosan Breakthrough,” “Battle of Hachimanpara,” and “Zenkouji Pursuit”— in order to advance to the next battle.

He (Masayuki) fights wielding a flag and spear, and can use tricky techniques like rotating his flag to trigger a tornado.
I can see some people here popping a vein on account of Kanawakajima being described as the House of Uesugi vs House of Sanada.

I think it's safe to assume that there won't be any Takeda retainers as new PC, and that the Takeda will remain as they were in SW4, the prologue to the Sanada story.
Can confirm. I'm bleeding out rather rapidly over here.(Sure, it's an error, but the game is named after the Sanada's; it'll still be all about them)

But before I die i'd like to say that battles being split up sounds pretty good as long as each battle is comparable to a standard SW battle.

Still I'm holding to hope that this game will largely deplete Koei's sanada-love and add pretty much all of the remaining sanada adds that are worth adding. Then next game they can expand the Takeda!

Don't kill the dream fam!

Edited by bluefiend, Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:02 pm.
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Manjiimortal
Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:03 pm
Bçru
Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:57 am
Some more info.

BlackKite
 
Battles are “Long-Term Battles” that span several battlefields. For example, in the “Battle of Kawanakajima” between the House of Sanada and House of Uesugi, you’ll need to clear three battles—the “Saijosan Breakthrough,” “Battle of Hachimanpara,” and “Zenkouji Pursuit”— in order to advance to the next battle.

He (Masayuki) fights wielding a flag and spear, and can use tricky techniques like rotating his flag to trigger a tornado.
I can see some people here popping a vein on account of Kanawakajima being described as the House of Uesugi vs House of Sanada.

I think it's safe to assume that there won't be any Takeda retainers as new PC, and that the Takeda will remain as they were in SW4, the prologue to the Sanada story.
Can confirm. I'm bleeding out rather rapidly over here.(Sure, it's an error, but the game is named after the Sanada's; it'll still be all about them)

But before I die i'd like to say that battles being split up sounds pretty good as long as each battle is comparable to a standard SW battle.

Still I'm holding to hope that this game will largely deplete Koei's sanada-love and add pretty much all of the remaining sanada adds that are worth adding. Then next game they can expand the Takeda!

Don't kill the dream fam!

Maybe you should call an ambulance...

Yeah, with Masayuki in I don't see what other Sanada adds are left aside from maybe Yukimura's wife (which I don't see happening as that would void Kunoichi's reason for existence, fangirling over Yukimura).

@hozonov: They'll reveal older Nobuyuki later on, maybe alongside older Masayuki (they only showed a glimpse).

I also imagine that older Yukimura will only show up for the Osaka campaigns (Koei now has no reason not to make them a big deal, that with them separating the battles in smaller ones), and otherwise SW4 Yukimura and Nobuyuki will be the playable versions until Sekigahara.
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Scans and pics look alright. Koei's Masayuki looks great, too.

Guess I'll just have to wait for the inevitable trailer drop to get an idea of how the game plays...
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Well since Yukimura ages his most famous kid Daisuke/Yukimasa would be another possible add. Especially since Daisuke could be playable. Would also be another reason why Akihime could be added.

This game will probably add Yukimura's Kudoyama phase after Yoshitsugu's death at Sekigahara thus I don't see why Koei shouldn't add Daisuke and Akihime just because of Kunoichi's one sided crush. She should have been changed to Sasuke, Saizo or Kosuke a long time ago.

Also Daisuke appeared quite prominently in the latest Nobunaga's Ambition game thus I suggest him at least.
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At least Koei know's that free'mode it's a must have ...

Now It would be right on Capcom's face if Sanada Maru realese date is on the same date os Yuki Den :doge:

Love this little war thing between them, this kind of drama make them work harder and better, or at least, more creative :lol:
Edited by Lazaroth, Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:55 pm.
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That's the point, when you have a rival you always want to be better than him so you push yourself harder to be better.

That what happening between SW and SB now
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This game is shaping up to look like a neo-Kessen for the Sanada family.

Watching Nobunaga age-up throughout Kessen 3 was pretty neat and seeing Manly Yukimura reminded me a lot of that.
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The only good thing about this from my perspective is that they might finally divide up Osaka into constituent components and separate Winter Osaka from Summer Osaka. If they don't at least do that, though, this game is a complete and total waste.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:38 pm
The only good thing about this from my perspective is that they might finally divide up Osaka into constituent components and separate Winter Osaka from Summer Osaka. If they don't at least do that, though, this game is a complete and total waste.
Am I going to point at something and said that chronicles already did it again? Yes, yes I am :cool:

The summer and winter sieges are separate battles in the first chronicles game.
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They shouldn't be separate stages. They should be separate campaigns. At the very least, Domyoji and Tennoji should be separate in summer. If they're going to add more Eastern and Western characters on both sides, they might as well separate out other battles too.
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They shouldn't be separate stages. They should be separate campaigns.
You're arguing on semantic nonsense at this point.

That's beside the fact that the castle sieges in this series only show the point where the defenses actually break; sieges are actually not that exciting until that point.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:44 pm
They shouldn't be separate stages. They should be separate campaigns.
You're arguing on semantic nonsense at this point.

That's beside the fact that the castle sieges in this series only show the point where the defenses actually break; sieges are actually not that exciting until that point.
No I'm not. Let me explain:

I don't want to see just Osaka Winter and Osaka Summer.

I want to see Yao, Domyoji and Tennoji as different battles rather than just "Summer."
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I'm pretty sure they will flesh out Osaka Campaign a lot here. Like, they already divided Kawanakajima to 3 stages here when it's always been just 1 in the games.

Given that we have Kagekatsu, I'd expect there to be at least Imafuku and Shigino for Winter campaign. For Summer campaign, Domyoji is a must and Yao is likely too because of Takatora. Then they'll obviously wrap up the story at Tennouji... would be great if they remade Yukimura's original ending from SW1.
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I wonder if the whole original SW4-II cast will return or if there will be some absences this time around? Surely some characters just won't be able to fit into the tale/game.
Edited by The Outsider, Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:27 pm.
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I wonder if the whole original SW4-II cast will return or if there will be some absences this time around? Surely some characters just won't be able to fit into the tale/game.
Didn't they already say all characters are available or something?

Besides, even if some characters aren't needed for story they'll be there for Free Mode and other possible secondary modes. Or at least that's how Sanada-den handled it... :yukimura: :masa:
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It may sound silly but that actually kind of irks me. If it's a focused take about the Sanada then why have characters like Kotaro, Katsuie, Nagamasa and Moronari playable at all. If it's of no benefit at all then just remove it.
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I hope they **** with everybody and add Shikanosuke out of nowhere, along with announcing some expansion of the whole Mori plot.

The likelihood of that is nill though and we're probably going to see Mori Katsunaga, Chosokabe Morichika, Goto Matabei, Kani Saizo and Tokugawa Hidetada or some ****.
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I wonder if the whole original SW4-II cast will return or if there will be some absences this time around? Surely some characters just won't be able to fit into the tale/game.
Didn't they already say all characters are available or something?

Besides, even if some characters aren't needed for story they'll be there for Free Mode and other possible secondary modes. Or at least that's how Sanada-den handled it... :yukimura: :masa:
Yeap all characters are playable on free'mode, unlike Yuki Den, that still need the confirmation of somekind of free'mode. (Beside Sanada Trials and character missions)
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I hope they **** with everybody and add Shikanosuke out of nowhere, along with announcing some expansion of the whole Mori plot.

The likelihood of that is nill though and we're probably going to see Mori Katsunaga, Chosokabe Morichika, Goto Matabei, Kani Saizo and Tokugawa Hidetada or some ****.
I don't see Shikanosuke for this game. Don't see Kani either, and I think Hidetada and Hideyori will remain UNPCs.

As for new characters I still say that Osaka defenders are the most likely choice.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:35 pm
It may sound silly but that actually kind of irks me. If it's a focused take about the Sanada then why have characters like Kotaro, Katsuie, Nagamasa and Moronari playable at all. If it's of no benefit at all then just remove it.

Why? The gameplay looks like it's based straight on SW4-II. They won't gain anything by removing "unnecessary" character and copy-pasting them from SW4 requires almost no work at all. It's not like they have to remove someone due to issues like limited disc space or something lol.

I do get your point though, I just fail to see any benefit from cutting characters here just for story reasons when they can be playable in other modes and it requires barely any effort at all.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:52 pm
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:38 pm
I hope they **** with everybody and add Shikanosuke out of nowhere, along with announcing some expansion of the whole Mori plot.

The likelihood of that is nill though and we're probably going to see Mori Katsunaga, Chosokabe Morichika, Goto Matabei, Kani Saizo and Tokugawa Hidetada or some ****.
I don't see Shikanosuke for this game. Don't see Kani either, and I think Hidetada and Hideyori will remain UNPCs.

As for new characters I still say that Osaka defenders are the most likely choice.
Agree with you, though I think Hidetada and Hideyori have a chance if the battles of the third act (e.g 2nd Ueda, Osaka) get a considerable amount of focus. I'm not a big fan of either character, but adding them here would probably make sense. However I'd prefer if they added new Osaka defenders like Morichika and Matabei... I've always felt the games doesn't do justice to the Toyotomi forces at Osaka and I really noticed that in SW4 where the line-up felt rather weak.

Also Shikanosuke for this game would be a complete joke when he's not really even a strong candidate for the main series anyway... I'm convinced that Koei doesn't seem to care about him much when he had like only one line in SW4 and 0.1% attention in the Chugoku story. He didn't even make it to the top-10 in the most recent new character request poll.
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