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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,814 Views)
Maya
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Ina is also mostly Nobuyuki's wife and is mostly there due to politcal relevance.
Also Chacha certainly didn't fight and Muramatsu certainly not either.
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So your issue is that completely useless Akihime is not in the game?

You do realize that she adds nothing to the game or Yukimura, and there's no way in hell Koei is gonna lock their posterboy in marriage. They haven't done it with Zhao Yun either, and never will because it's good for them to offer as many shipping possibilities as you can to the fanbase.

Also, Ina has the story about her shooting arrows at Masayuki in Numata before Sekigahara, and Chacha was in practical terms the commander-in-chief during the sieges of Osaka. Muramatsu is the case they wanted to add a Sanada-related female come hell or high water and she, while useless, is the least bad addition of the lot (again Akihime would only bring problems in the fold, specially when Koei is very clearly positioning a big option for Yukimura/Chacha shipping with this game).
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In fairness, Zhao Yun didn't ever have a wife, at least, not one they ever bothered to mention in historical records and legends.

I also think it's far, far too early to call this game a "trainwreck". It looks like your standard Musou faire at least- and definitely a LOT better than 4-II (not that that'd be hard).
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YukimuraxChachashipping garbage is one of the dumb results of not accurately portraying as well as embarassing stuff like protected by Hideyoshi
Edited by Maya, Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:42 pm.
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And again, we don't yet know what stages this game covers. That they seem to have several scenes at Osaka (one at night, one in the afternoon) indicates at least 2 different Osaka stages- more is quite likely. After all, they don't need the other defenders playable per se, when they have Chacha, Sasuke, and Kunoichi aiding Yukimura, and with generics keeping their SW4E appearances, they can still appear as semi-unique characters to guide the battles along.

Yeah it would've been nice to actually play as, say Morichika and Matabei, but it's not the worst call they could make. At least the childhood relationship stretch they threw in makes some historical sense... unlike another Yukimura game I could name...
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But Yukimura/Chacha shipping was inevitable once she was added because they were close together (in a geographical level), and interacted during the Sieges of Osaka historically. And for shippers that's more than enough.

Plus giving Yukimura a wife is a waste of time and resources because his characterization couldn't possibly be more "Fighting-Shonen-Main-Protagonist" than it already is.
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impressions of the new trailer

-village atmosphere is so Toukiden, down to the music, which isnotbad

-i wonder if they can still call SB Kid Yukimura "lazy" after this version of kid Yukimura :wacko:

-some other/non sanada characters are playable side stories called Sengoku Emaki, which is the name of the main story mode of Basara 3 :haha:

-Hidetada looks even cheaper/weirder in motion than he is in screenshots :wacko:
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People are gonna ship people if they even sneeze in their direction..

That being said, I'm here for that old Ieyasu. Thanks Koei!
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I'm whatever about all the new minigames but I'm always excited to try out new characters and see a new story mode! Masayuki's moveset looks interesting, curious to see how much the flag aspect of his moveset makes him different from all the other spear users in the Musou franchise.
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they already shown his gameplay in length and it's just as boring as everyone else's so far :wacko: (that uses a spear) , it doesn't really use the flag part in anything he does.

DW still have the superior spear play, moveset wise.
Edited by wodash, Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:26 pm.
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So it seems the clock also acts as a timer.

And I noticed that at night, the minimaps are mostly blank and at afternoon, the reveal part is larger than it was at night. Kinda cool challenge to have when we don't have satellite intel map anymore.

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Off topic, but boy, I wish Omega Force would join hands with From Software to make SW/DW spin-off under DS/BB engine, where soldiers, generals, and you will fight each other seriously. Attack animations from SW will be translated into more solid, heavier feel. You also gotta spam roll, block, back stab, and not to forget to summon Kanetsugu for some jolly co-operation.

Aaaahhhh... That will be so good...
Edited by Raiko Z, Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:31 pm.
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:29 pm
Off topic, but boy, I wish Omega Force would join hands with From Software to make SW/DW spin-off under DS/BB engine, where soldiers, generals, and you will fight each other seriously. Attack animations from SW will be translated into more solid, heavier feel. You also gotta spam roll, block, back stab, and not to forget to summon Kanetsugu for some jolly co-operation.

Aaaahhhh... That will be so good...
KT already have the N10H engine :uh: :wacko: :huh:
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:58 pm
It's disappointing that there are no new characters since Katsuyori and Muramatsu will only appear in the beginning.

It's Yukimura's youth the game and does seem to ignore the Second part of the drama and his adulthood (marriage, exile and the Siege also the defenders) completely. I am glad that I choose to buy Ascension this game looks rather train wreck like.
It doesn't ignore the events of his second part of life. The game simply doesn't follow the drama. And why would it? It's connected to the drama, and it's certainly influenced by it, but it's not a direct adaptation of the drama.
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:33 pm
And again, we don't yet know what stages this game covers. That they seem to have several scenes at Osaka (one at night, one in the afternoon) indicates at least 2 different Osaka stages- more is quite likely. After all, they don't need the other defenders playable per se, when they have Chacha, Sasuke, and Kunoichi aiding Yukimura, and with generics keeping their SW4E appearances, they can still appear as semi-unique characters to guide the battles along.

Yeah it would've been nice to actually play as, say Morichika and Matabei, but it's not the worst call they could make. At least the childhood relationship stretch they threw in makes some historical sense... unlike another Yukimura game I could name...
I have a feeling that the entire third act will be about Osaka Campaign, since all the oldest versions of characters seem to appear only there: they definitely won't go through all that trouble for just a few stages.

And TBH, Osaka Campaign has a lot of potential to be expanded to like 6-7 battles anyway.
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:asia: Old man Ieyasu looking pretty awesome there :asia:

Still holding out for Old Man Honda :asia: :honda:

This game is looking pretty good though, I might end up picking this up at some point. There's lots of unique features I'm curious to see more of once it releases in Japan. Just under 2 weeks left for that :sly:
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It's possible that there won't be old Tadakatsu though, seeing as he does not participate in the Osaka campaign.
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I wonder if Masamune or Kojuro would get older models-well, granted that they expand Kojuro's lifespan
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:16 pm
I wonder if Masamune or Kojuro would get older models-well, granted that they expand Kojuro's lifespan
Surely they will. Masamune is a fairly important character and Kojuro is always with him. With Masamune appearing in his current version when he joined Toyotomi, it only makes sense that he becomes older during the events of Ösaka, and, since Kojuro follows him everywhere, it wouldn't make sense if one aged and not the other, so the latter will also age. I'm really excited about the possibility of others aging, now that they have shown Ieyasu, I really hope for other characters to receive the same treatment as well. I wonder if they will age Koshöshö in Ösaka...
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What's weird is that barely looks like a spear but a long sword held the wrong way

Maybe they should have tried a little better
Well remember Yukimura's spear in the SW series isnt a normal spear, its a Cross Spear

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As a kid his wood spear looks like a toy version of this, so really it fits.
I know but his wooden version has no point it looks like a upside down blade instead kid masamune had points in his wooden swords

And boy adult Yukimura looks so badazz I prefer that design over his past ones even his sw1 which was the best m

Also anyone getting a feel that koei is thinking of doing a Mmorpg for SW because this Sanada Maru vid felt like one
Edited by Zai Tong, Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:34 pm.
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:25 pm
Also anyone getting a feel that koei is thinking of doing a Mmorpg for SW because this Sanada Maru vid felt like one
you mean Samurai Warriors Online,they tried it a few times with DW, it didn't manage to be a thing....
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Which video?
Oh, you mean the PV3? This one?


It also shows some kid Yukimura fights.
Edited by Makörë, Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:26 am.
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A well put together trailer. If I wasn't hyped before, I certainly am now. And it looks like a rivalry is brewing between Yukimura and Hidetada
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I really find the idea of having Hidetada as a rival to Yukimura very stupid, like, seriously, Yukimura already has his brother as a rival, and he is a known powerful warrior, while Hidetada is neither known for being a warrior nor a competent commander. Its a really horrible idea, and I hope Koei drops it as soon as possible in later installments, make him a rival to Chacha, then, it makes relatively more sense, but Yukimura is much too great to have such a terrible rival.
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I am no expert of Hidetada but did Yukimura and Masayuki fight Hidetada at Ueda? and if so maybe thier trying to develop Hidetada a bit for this game by having him clash with Yukimura. i still personally think Nobuyuki is better as Yukimura's Rival, given how they were rivals in History and in the first SW4.


it most likely would be dropped by the time SW5 occurs, but thats just my most logical guess here.
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:07 am
I am no expert of Hidetada but did Yukimura and Masayuki fight Hidetada at Ueda? and if so maybe thier trying to develop Hidetada a bit for this game by having him clash with Yukimura. i still personally think Nobuyuki is better as Yukimura's Rival, given how they were rivals in History and in the first SW4.


it most likely would be dropped by the time SW5 occurs, but thats just my most logical guess here.
Hidetada fought the Sanada at the second Battle of Ueda and despite having numerical superiority he couldn't secure a decisive victory. Because of this he showed up to Sekigahara late which earned him the ire of his father (the two of them were on pretty shaky terms and it was questionable if Ieyasu would keep Hidetada as his heir). That said, I think its understandable if Hidetada doesn't hold at least a slight grudge against the Sanada clan.
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