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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,813 Views)
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Don't hold your breath on adult Ina, by the way. Chacha is still in young adult form standing next to adult Yukimura
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I don't consider the bros rivals they seem like the bros sasuke and itachi uchiha

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Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:29 pm
So it seems the clock also acts as a timer.

And I noticed that at night, the minimaps are mostly blank and at afternoon, the reveal part is larger than it was at night. Kinda cool challenge to have when we don't have satellite intel map anymore.

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Off topic, but boy, I wish Omega Force would join hands with From Software to make SW/DW spin-off under DS/BB engine, where soldiers, generals, and you will fight each other seriously. Attack animations from SW will be translated into more solid, heavier feel. You also gotta spam roll, block, back stab, and not to forget to summon Kanetsugu for some jolly co-operation.

Aaaahhhh... That will be so good...
I think they'd do better in teaming up with Platinum, the warriors series games always seemed more like platinum-lite games rather than Souls-lite.(Plus souls games hilariously slow response times)
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What a genuinely gorgeous trailer; it's very nice to see some of the cutscenes and it sounds like they've gone all out for the soundtrack. I think the new gameplay features look sound, I know some have questioned the purpose of the minigames like fishing when it was revealed but I quite like little things like that as it enables the town to feel more alive and adapting.

Do we know for sure yet that the child versions of characters are playable in actual stages yet though, they seem more like tutorials or bonus missions only to me?

It was great to finally see an older Ieyasu too, that really was a necessity for the game to feel more engaging. I think it's completely bizarre how Kunoichi (and seemingly Sasuke who's looking like he gets introduced fairly early) doesn't age at all from day 1 throughout the game's story, they'll probably use some ninja crap to explain that however. Wish Japan would get over this detrimental thing about not portraying older females within its media.
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:33 am
I really find the idea of having Hidetada as a rival to Yukimura very stupid, like, seriously, Yukimura already has his brother as a rival, and he is a known powerful warrior, while Hidetada is neither known for being a warrior nor a competent commander. Its a really horrible idea, and I hope Koei drops it as soon as possible in later installments, make him a rival to Chacha, then, it makes relatively more sense, but Yukimura is much too great to have such a terrible rival.
I feel this way too. Plus I don't feel like Yukimura really has enough time to interact with Hidetada to develop any solid rivalry or relationship anyway.

But of course, he can have more than one rival, Nobuyuki will still probably be his primary rival.

Also, I'm surprised so many people are on board with the idea of everyone aging. I mean in this pv didn't we just see that none of Kagekatsu, Kanetsugu, Masamune, Kunoichi, Sasuke, or Chacha have aged at all?

I think the aging thing will probably take a good while before it's able to be implemented onto every character.

Also, dat duel at Kawanakajima! :2up:
Edited by bluefiend, Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:13 am.
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:33 am
I really find the idea of having Hidetada as a rival to Yukimura very stupid, like, seriously, Yukimura already has his brother as a rival, and he is a known powerful warrior, while Hidetada is neither known for being a warrior nor a competent commander. Its a really horrible idea, and I hope Koei drops it as soon as possible in later installments, make him a rival to Chacha, then, it makes relatively more sense, but Yukimura is much too great to have such a terrible rival.
they don't want to repeat SW4 and 4-II i guess, and also Basara Yukimura Den, all of which culminates in Yukimura vs Nobuyuki
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wodash
Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:23 am
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:33 am
I really find the idea of having Hidetada as a rival to Yukimura very stupid, like, seriously, Yukimura already has his brother as a rival, and he is a known powerful warrior, while Hidetada is neither known for being a warrior nor a competent commander. Its a really horrible idea, and I hope Koei drops it as soon as possible in later installments, make him a rival to Chacha, then, it makes relatively more sense, but Yukimura is much too great to have such a terrible rival.
they don't want to repeat SW4 and 4-II i guess, and also Basara Yukimura Den, all of which culminates in Yukimura vs Nobuyuki
This, and they already did that very well in SW4 so might as well focus on something different now.

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Kagekatsu, Kanetsugu, Masamune aging

We haven't seen any of those at Osaka Campaign footage yet. Chances are most who gets to participate at there will get an aged version if necessary. This is because I suspect that we have 1st age phase from Kawanakajima to Honnouji, then 2nd phase from that 'till Sekigahara and the 3rd phase is the entire Osaka Campaign. This is supported for instance by the fact that Masayuki dies before Osaka Campaign so he doesn't have 3 models.
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:49 pm
I suspect that we have 1st age phase from Kawanakajima to Honnouji, then 2nd phase from that 'till Sekigahara and the 3rd phase is the entire Osaka Campaign. This is supported for instance by the fact that Masayuki dies before Osaka Campaign so he doesn't have 3 models.
That's exactly how it goes.
We've already seen that:
Young Masayuki, Sanada brothers as kids: from Kawanakajima till Honnoji (we've seen kid Yukimura running around Azuchi and meeting Chacha)
Old Masayuki and young Sanada brothers: from Ueda (I guess) till Sekigahara (we've seen pre-Sekigahara scene)
Olda Yukimura and Nobuyuki - Osaka.
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I hope that means Kanetsugu also doesn't appear with early Uesugi either. It would be really weird having him appear with the same age while Yukimura is a kid and a teen.
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Never understood why Masayuki allowed the marriage between nobuyuki and Ina couldn't the see what ieyasu was planning
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:09 pm
Never understood why Masayuki allowed the marriage between nobuyuki and Ina couldn't the see what ieyasu was planning
well, Nobunaga married his daughter to Katsuyori and Oichi to Nagamasa, that didn't really changed thing much for him, everybody does political marriages against everyone else in the Sengoku Era...
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I don't think Lady Matsu and Nobutada actually married.
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If you can attach yourself to a strong family, your chance of survival goes up. Which reminds me, Katsuie went against Nobunaga once. He then married his sister to keep loyal (amongst other reasons, iirc, they were quite in love), if you want to keep a man loyal, I don't think taking his wife away from him was a good move.

Then again, Buns could do whatever he wanted with his little sister. I'm just surprised Katsuie didn't retaliate. Perhaps he wanted to and couldn't? Anyway, that's a discussion for another day
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:35 pm
I hope that means Kanetsugu also doesn't appear with early Uesugi either. It would be really weird having him appear with the same age while Yukimura is a kid and a teen.
Or maybe he'll appear anyway, but for Osaka castle, he will have mustache and goatee. Same goes to Masamune.

Koei's rule of thumb: Facial hair = old. Bleached hair = old old.

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To be fair, wouldn't be TOO weird- he's about 8 years older than Yukimura. It'd still be unusual to have him show up at, say, Kawanakajima though.
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Seen the trailer and I'm hype for this game. Already got my psn cards ready lol. I hope they have more people to age. They put effort to this game, which is great.
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AntonKutovoi
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I suspect that we have 1st age phase from Kawanakajima to Honnouji, then 2nd phase from that 'till Sekigahara and the 3rd phase is the entire Osaka Campaign. This is supported for instance by the fact that Masayuki dies before Osaka Campaign so he doesn't have 3 models.
That's exactly how it goes.
We've already seen that:
Young Masayuki, Sanada brothers as kids: from Kawanakajima till Honnoji (we've seen kid Yukimura running around Azuchi and meeting Chacha)
Old Masayuki and young Sanada brothers: from Ueda (I guess) till Sekigahara (we've seen pre-Sekigahara scene)
Olda Yukimura and Nobuyuki - Osaka.
2nd phase will probably start at Mt. Tenmoku, though, especially now that Katsuyori is playable.
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Oh yeah, aging thing is awesome. Makes game more historical-looking, yes I am pretty serious about this.
Would love to have Naomasa's senior version with scars. Imho, that is what I would like also to see from Toyohisa, just being around Naomasa's regular version age at Sekigahara battle. Toyohisa being kid for all the time is kinda annoying. Although not that annoying as Kobayakawa... I am not saying that every single character should have that, but some of those should for sure. Let's start with Ieyasu and Hideyoshi and then head to others.
Oh yeah, I did not say that but I am actually disappointed that there is no new character from Osaka conflict. I actually expected Goto Matabei, so yeah... don't see such additions in SW5 anyway. Sad thing.
Also I am more and more keen on idea to feature Nobutada/Matsuhime couple in the next game, since Katsuyori is there. I can't say that I am huge fan of those possible additions, but this pair is lovely japanese reflection of Romeo and Juliette story. Would be really cool to feature them actually.
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:00 pm
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:49 pm
I suspect that we have 1st age phase from Kawanakajima to Honnouji, then 2nd phase from that 'till Sekigahara and the 3rd phase is the entire Osaka Campaign. This is supported for instance by the fact that Masayuki dies before Osaka Campaign so he doesn't have 3 models.
That's exactly how it goes.
We've already seen that:
Young Masayuki, Sanada brothers as kids: from Kawanakajima till Honnoji (we've seen kid Yukimura running around Azuchi and meeting Chacha)
Old Masayuki and young Sanada brothers: from Ueda (I guess) till Sekigahara (we've seen pre-Sekigahara scene)
Olda Yukimura and Nobuyuki - Osaka.
2nd phase will probably start at Mt. Tenmoku, though, especially now that Katsuyori is playable.
No, look at the story screens. Masayuki receives new of Katsuyori's death with brothers being kids. And he also decides to side with Oda and send Muramatsu as a hostage with brothers still being kids
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^ I see. That actually makes more sense, since Katsuyori has only 1 model in the game, so he will have that from the beginning 'till Mt. Tenmoku.
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Lol I did not notice before that there are little hearts on Yukimura's armor. That's cute. Since this armor is also a special costume for the game I have looked at the picture of the armor in the game and it seems that the costume for the game also has the little hearts on it xD.

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Daisuke is a cute kid, I like him. Truely a grandchild of Masayuki and also of Yoshitsugu.

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I also think that it's cute that the fur Daisuke is using on his sword was formerly used by grandpa Masayuki (who was played by Kusakari Masao who portrayed Yukimura in Sanada Taiheiki).


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Of the defenders they seem to focus on Kimura Shigenari primarly.

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Also according to the previews for Episode 47 it seems like Nobuyuki will spend even more time with Ono Otsu. Let's see if Ina has to be wary.

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Toyohisa being kid for all the time is kinda annoying. Although not that annoying as Kobayakawa... I am not saying that every single character should have that, but some of those should for sure.


I think Toyohisa has one big thing that makes aging him pretty hard. Toyohisa isn't just defined by being hot blooded but also by being a puppy. A teenaged look just works best with that gimmick. He's also a pretty minor character so I doubt they would go through the trouble.

But yeah, Takakage really is a special case. On the whole I think Koei is pretty good at justifying a lot of characters being so young. Masamune was born to late, Hanbei died before his time, Ranmaru never got past his teenage years, Mitsunari and Co are supposed to be the new generation and Toyohisa really was 16ish at the time of Hideyoshi's invasion.
Takakage doesn't have any of that. He is one of the older SW characters and according to Hideyoshi's biography he got on so well with Takakage precisely because they were peers.
For Takakage I really can't think of any other reason for him being a prettyboy than because that archtype just happens to be popular.
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I think Toyohisa has one big thing that makes aging him pretty hard. Toyohisa isn't just defined by being hot blooded but also by being a puppy. A teenaged look just works best with that gimmick. He's also a pretty minor character so I doubt they would go through the trouble.

For Takakage I really can't think of any other reason for him being a prettyboy than because that archtype just happens to be popular.
they could just slap a beard-mustache combo on him and Takakage without changing their body, voice and face, i'm sure people will still praise it as a spectacular breakthrough and wonderful addition to the game

i mean after seeing such warm and positive reactions towards craptastic CAWs like Katsuyori and Hidetada i'm pretty sure the standards for people liking SW 's new adds and features are in a completely new low anyways
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A moustache and beard would fail miserably a making either Takakage or Toyohisa look older. Both of them have very young looking faces, and Toyohisa's teen-level hot-blooded attitude makes his situation worse. Both would look fake.
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they should also slap a Zhuge Liang mustache on Hanbei so he really does become the Zhuge Liang of Sengoku :haha:

without changing his body model or voice of course :haha:

speaking of which did they have a different VA for the kids or does Kusao and whoever voiced Nobuyuki did their own kiddie lines in SW4?
Edited by wodash, Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:50 am.
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