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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,812 Views)
Scorpion26
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Games looks interesting and makes sense with Kunoichi and Sasuke don't have aging progress since both are fictionalized characters. Overall the game looks great and I am hoping this comes out to NA soon.
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AntonKutovoi
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wodash
Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:50 am
they should also slap a Zhuge Liang mustache on Hanbei so he really does become the Zhuge Liang of Sengoku :haha:

without changing his body model or voice of course :haha:

speaking of which did they have a different VA for the kids or does Kusao and whoever voiced Nobuyuki did their own kiddie lines in SW4?
Different VAs

Adult Yukimura - Takeshi Kusao
Adult Nobuyuki - Daisuke Ono

Young Yukimura - Yuka Saito (Naotora. And also Takeshi Kusao's wife IRL)
Young Nobuyuki - Jun Shikano (Gracia)

Kusao could've voiced young Yukimura (see kid Trunks from Dragon Ball), though.
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SRS
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I gotta say, Takakage's reveal was one of the biggest disappointments of SW4 for me. He's just too damn young for someone who was the long-standing ELDER of the Mori clan. He didn't even die young either. AND he has offspring, albeit adopted, who play very major roles in the era.

This is partly why I really want Terumoto around, because it would hopefully force Koei to age up both Motonari and Takakage at least a bit.
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Ryō Genken
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Motonari already aged enough.
Itt's Takakage that needs to get aged.
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They did, but if Takakage is to get older then Motonari needs to get older(er) I think. Motonari's hair is silver but so is Nobuyuki's, Motonari still has a young looking face.
Edited by The Outsider, Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:46 am.
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Or they could just remove Motonari from the story earlier. Add Kikkawa Motoharu and perhaps Mori Terumoto and things become easier.
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AntonKutovoi
Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:31 am
Different VAs

Adult Yukimura - Takeshi Kusao
Adult Nobuyuki - Daisuke Ono

Young Yukimura - Yuka Saito (Naotora. And also Takeshi Kusao's wife IRL)
Young Nobuyuki - Jun Shikano (Gracia)
i see, and yeah i remember Kusao's wife being in the game back then....


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Kusao could've voiced young Yukimura (see kid Trunks from Dragon Ball), though.
or like how Hoshi and Nakai voiced Benmaru and Bontenmaru/Kid Yuki-Masa for Yukimura Den, Benmaru was spot on tho Bontenmaru was pretty weird due to Nakai not changing his pitch
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:33 am
or like how Hoshi and Nakai voiced Benmaru and Bontenmaru/Kid Yuki-Masa for Yukimura Den, Benmaru was spot on tho Bontenmaru was pretty weird due to Nakai not changing his pitch
Not every male VA can play a child version of his adult character, though (as you pointed yourself with Kazuya Nakai). Among SW, those VAs who CAN play kids are: Yukimura, Masamune (SW1 says "Hi"), Mitsunari, Nagamasa, Mitsuhide, Keiji (but why would you do this, though). Probably Hidetada, Sasuke, Takakage/Katsuyori as well. Motochika could do it back in 1997, don't know about now.
Edited by AntonKutovoi, Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:18 pm.
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Katatonia
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Seriously. I want to look as good as Takakage when I hit 70. He goes from Itsukushima to at least the Shikoku Invasion, perhaps even to Odawara, that's a good 50 some odd years. And he still looks barely legal
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Why are people surprised with Takakage having only 1 model in the game? He won't show up after phase 1, if they just chose to omit him from Odawara campaign (a choice that makes no difference for the story of the Sanada).
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Katatonia
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I'm not concerned with Sanadamaru, I meant in the long run, like SW4 proper or SW5, where Koba should get an older model along with being daddy to either Hideaki or Terumoto. He's just a footnote in SM, might not be in the story at all
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What about Toyohisa, then?
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/30836428601/ If it doesn't work i'm sorry, looks like the dlc sanada armor will be a dlc armor in nioh.
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Makörë
Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:06 am
What about Toyohisa, then?
They could probably aged him a bit more if they add Iehisa Shimazu in the next installment, which he could be age up to be around 20 something since he died at age 30 from what i know.


While they could just age him up because of Yoshihiro i think they have more reason to age him if they added his Father Iehisa.


thats just my thoughts on the matter.
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AntonKutovoi
Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:30 pm
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:33 am
or like how Hoshi and Nakai voiced Benmaru and Bontenmaru/Kid Yuki-Masa for Yukimura Den, Benmaru was spot on tho Bontenmaru was pretty weird due to Nakai not changing his pitch
Not every male VA can play a child version of his adult character, though (as you pointed yourself with Kazuya Nakai). Among SW, those VAs who CAN play kids are: Yukimura, Masamune (SW1 says "Hi"), Mitsunari, Nagamasa, Mitsuhide, Keiji (but why would you do this, though). Probably Hidetada, Sasuke, Takakage/Katsuyori as well. Motochika could do it back in 1997, don't know about now.
i wonder how much the characters "change between kid and adult version tho, SW4-II didn't realy had much of those and it seems that it's the exact same Yukimura, but small(never played SW4)

compared to, say, Benmaru and Kid Ieyasu/Takechiyo in Basara, which has a huge contrast of characters with their older versions and is voiced by the same guy
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Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:11 am
https://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/30836428601/ If it doesn't work i'm sorry, looks like the dlc sanada armor will be a dlc armor in nioh.
Nice decision to choose the one from Nobunaga's Ambition Sphece of Influence Ascension
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Katatonia
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I'm not as familiar with Toyohisa as I am with Takakage, but the rule doesn't apply for Toyohisa, since Takakage is like the 5th oldest character in the game(after Motonari, Shingen, Kenshin, Ujiyasu and Aya). Toyohisa's whole shtick is that he's a young, inexperienced little puppy trying to play catch up with his uncle . I think he died young, too? I'll have to research him. Anyway, I don't think he'll have much of a role in Sanadamaru anyway, considering his fate at Sekigahara
Edited by Katatonia, Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:02 am.
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Toyohisa was only 30 when he died, so "died young" I'd say applies.
Edited by SRS, Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:04 am.
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Yeah, died young, but not died when he was a teen) nevermind, just personal minor wish to have at stalemate different versions of Toyohisa/Naomasa (more experienced versions, Toyohisa around Yukimura's age and Naomasa with scars and moustache), would make their rivalry more epic. I wonder how they can age up Mitsunari to make him still appealing to fanbase.
Also Kunoichi being Kunoichi is still bothering me. I actually hoped that with Sanadamaru smthg will be changed. Nope. Another disappointment.
Edited by WarHawk, Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:38 am.
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New developer diary is dedicated to Masayuki and Chacha:
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/sanadamaru/developer.html
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Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:11 am
https://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/30836428601/ If it doesn't work i'm sorry, looks like the dlc sanada armor will be a dlc armor in nioh.
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KT oh KT.

Your DLC plan is surely more solid than your game.
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why so surprised, DOA5, DW, and to some extent, Hyrule, already shows how DLC centric and un-game centric KT is :doge:
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I fail to see why.
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^they should've fixed/tweaked/better the gameplay first and foremost before everything else.

i remember reading someone insisting that this is not SW4, if it's not so it should've not play like SW4, the fact is it's still the same ,with a bit of Empires strategy attack thingie thrown in for good measure, the rest of the new stuffs are nothing that people who hated SW4's gameplay will be willing to try yet again.

their DLC plan however, like Raiko mentioned, is very solid, the seem to really know what sells and what not, sadly the same cannot be said the same for the core/vanilla games for quite a while now, aside from maybe the Toukiden series
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I don't know who insisted that this was not SW4 while its quite clear that it is, and I never saw Koei stating otherwise. I doubt they ever intended this to be anything but another version of SW4, much like SW4II and SW4E, if this was intended to be a standalone musou, then all characters would have received a new appearence, and some wouldn't even have returned due to the focus on a single clan. There is no reason to change the gameplay because this is SW4 and, as such, it must play like SW4 and all its other versions. Taking the word of a random obvious hater, like you're doing, and spreading it as if it was truth is a terrible thing to do. We already have enough lies on the internet, don't bring any more.
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