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Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada; New Characters: Sanada Masayuki, Chacha, Sasuke, Lady Muramatsu, Takeda Katsuyori, Tokugawa Hidetada
Topic Started: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:15 pm (168,807 Views)
Mark Robin
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By chance if anyone playing the game, did they bring CAW or they took it out? I haven't seen it so far yet.

Danggggg.... that Sasuke's moveset. His weapon was definitely got my attention.
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So does anyone know how the relationship between Hideyoshi and Chacha is handled?
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So apparently Hideyori really isn't in the game at all. The forces in Osaka are labelled as the Toyotomi remnant(or restoration force? Not sure on that part) rather than the Toyotomi clan.
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PeJ
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The 3 first videos are here with all missions complete ^^
Ow I forget this is a japanese website to get all missions and more

http://h1g.jp/sanadamaru/ just use CHrome to translate.


Edited by PeJ, Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:03 am.
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HideyoshixChacha does seem to have been dropped mostly. I have seen a Chacha video in which she fights on Hideyoshi's side along with Mitsunari however she just seems to be treated as a Toyotomi supporter mostly.

HideyoshixChacha seems to be treated similar to Kaihime's situation.
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Well how the **** do we get Hideyori then, is he just immaculately conceived?
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PeJ
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I check the website I gave you ... and no Sekigahara :/
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:41 am
Was Chacha meant to be cross-eyed or did Koei mess up her model?
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at least it's only on one eye, it would've been hilarious if she were fully cross eyed :wacko:
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:15 am
HideyoshixChacha does seem to have been dropped mostly. I have seen a Chacha video in which she fights on Hideyoshi's side along with Mitsunari however she just seems to be treated as a Toyotomi supporter mostly.

HideyoshixChacha seems to be treated similar to Kaihime's situation.
Called it! :D

Hideyori's absence is weird though. They never got into who his mother was so if Chacha was a problem them why not ignore it like always?
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I was right in that they added new battles. You have Mimasetoge on Takeda's side, you have the battle of Futamata, there's Masayuki's capture of Numata castle as well as some battles representing the Tensho-Jingo conflict, though the battles of Temmokuzan and Kannagawa (though this appears to be that they'll take the histocial route, as the Sanada weren't at Kannagawa, and instead they were recapturing Numata castle, which had been given to a relative of Takigawa Kazumasu, and that is indeed featured) seem to be absent for some strange reason.
Edited by Manjiimortal, Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:11 pm.
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Just saw some footage of Osaka. Yep, they were too lazy to age anyone else. Kanetsugu, Kagekatsu, Masamune, Takatora, and Ina all remain the same. Even the Sanada elder sister still looks and sounds like she's 12. Disappoint. I realize that they're not the focus of the game, but still. Here's hoping that they'll put more of an effort into the aging system for the next game, or maybe DW9.
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:08 pm
I was right in that they added new battles. You have Mimasetoge on Takeda's side, you have the battle of Futamata, there's Masayuki's capture of Numata castle as well as some battles representing the Tensho-Jingo conflict, though the battles of Temmokuzan and Kannagawa (though this appears to be that they'll take the histocial route, as the Sanada weren't at Kannagawa, and instead they were recapturing Numata castle, which had been given to a relative of Takigawa Kazumasu, and that is indeed featured) seem to be absent for some strange reason.
My question is, do you think the Sanada clan stages would be enough to fill out a sanada clan story mode in SW5? It'd be nice to get them out of the Takeda once and for all.

Also, can't say I blame them for not aging anyone else. I mean just imagine how much work it'd be to give every character 3 different models and then redo all of those 3 models every. single. game. The cast would essentially go from 50 or so characters to 150.
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:09 pm
Just saw some footage of Osaka. Yep, they were too lazy to age anyone else. Kanetsugu, Kagekatsu, Masamune, Takatora, and Ina all remain the same. Even the Sanada elder sister still looks and sounds like she's 12. Disappoint. I realize that they're not the focus of the game, but still. Here's hoping that they'll put more of an effort into the aging system for the next game, or maybe DW9.
Really? I'm honestly struggling to find a reason why would I ever buy this game. It doesn't seem to bring much new besides a few battles that all look weird and two new movesets.
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:24 pm
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:15 am
HideyoshixChacha does seem to have been dropped mostly. I have seen a Chacha video in which she fights on Hideyoshi's side along with Mitsunari however she just seems to be treated as a Toyotomi supporter mostly.

HideyoshixChacha seems to be treated similar to Kaihime's situation.
Called it! :D

Hideyori's absence is weird though. They never got into who his mother was so if Chacha was a problem them why not ignore it like always?
There IS that specific cut where Hideyoshi is sort of man-handling Cha-Cha and she explodeds..."get your hands off me monkey!', it's there for all to see.

Anyone with the game. First scenario where Kuno's available, Mikatagahara i guess, winter. I've played it 4 times, done all the missions, got to Iyeasu and when he gets to half health i lose? Something i don't know? Does Masayuki need to be the one to kill him?

I'm sure this has been discussed, but items from SW1 are back, and weapons don't come in boxes or from officers, so far you get one weapon to start, the way you upgrade it with fish, fruit, veg etc. makes it grow A/B/C etc. Elements can be added once you get to a certain level. And you have to purchase attack/speed/defense etc from the vendor in town and use your d pad to deploy in emergencies, the personal items and the other items deployed by the d pad in SW4/SW4II appear to be totally gone.
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bluefiend
Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:17 pm
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:08 pm
I was right in that they added new battles. You have Mimasetoge on Takeda's side, you have the battle of Futamata, there's Masayuki's capture of Numata castle as well as some battles representing the Tensho-Jingo conflict, though the battles of Temmokuzan and Kannagawa (though this appears to be that they'll take the histocial route, as the Sanada weren't at Kannagawa, and instead they were recapturing Numata castle, which had been given to a relative of Takigawa Kazumasu, and that is indeed featured) seem to be absent for some strange reason.
My question is, do you think the Sanada clan stages would be enough to fill out a sanada clan story mode in SW5? It'd be nice to get them out of the Takeda once and for all.
They already had enough stages in 4 to be honest, but in my opinion the big thing here is if they stick to the historical ages, and as such Yukimura and Nobuyuki don't appear at all until at least after Nagashino (Masayuki's the only Sanada playable until that big defeat). That of course means that the roles that Yukimura and Nobuyuki usually played in the Takeda are left vacant (Yukimura being the charging-in-the-vanguard due, and Nobuyuki being the more support guy), and can be given back to Yamagata Masakage and Naito Masatoyo (or another Takeda retainer).

Masayuki seems to have a new role created for him, Katsuyori is there to succeed his father, and you're only left with Sakon being a stand-in for Baba Nobufusa, and Kunoichi for Chiyome.

The new stages of Numata, Recapture of Numata and the Tensho-Jingo conflict will add to the Sanada story adding to what I've already mentioned. I think in SW5 there's a good chance of seeing some of the 4 Guardian Kings of the Takeda added.
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Bunch of the new stages Plus stages of SW4 for the Sanada seem like it would be a way to remove Yukimura, Nobuyuki, Kunoichi, and Sasuke from the Takeda for SW5. Masayuki of course could still be in with the Takeda.


and with Nagashino and as some have already discussed. Yukimura and Nobuyuki could just be replaced by two of Shingen's Guardian Kings such as Masatoyo Naito and Nobufusa Baba, and just have Kunoichi replaced with Chiyome. the Takeda finally have a chance to be expanded in my opinion because the Sanada's roster has increased to a point they could just easily be thier own clan in the games now (just as they are in history).


I think its very Likely SW5 would seperate the two clans. and have the Sanada as a seperate story with Just Yukimura, Nobuyuki, Sasuke, Kunoichi, Masayuki, and Possibly Muramatsu (if she becomes playable in SW5). the Takeda can now get thier own story with Shingen, Katsuyori, and to some extent Masayuki but i feel its Very likely we will finally get some actual Takeda Retainers now.


of course this is all assuming that they follow the historical age thing with Yukimura and Nobuyuki not being around till after Nagashino.
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Muramatsu doesn't feel in game like a character that will become playable, at least not the way the first time i saw Aya and Masanori i KNEW they'd be made playable. She's very blad, the most interesting thing about her is her alt costumes in the Artbook.
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:57 pm
Muramatsu doesn't feel in game like a character that will become playable, at least not the way the first time i saw Aya and Masanori i KNEW they'd be made playable. She's very blad, the most interesting thing about her is her alt costumes in the Artbook.
Well, that was a rumor, you never know.
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Sanadamaru episode 46:

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https://mobile.twitter.com/matsuokamayuone/status/800299767012073472

My highlight was the Sanada family scene. It was really cute :XD .

The people present are: Yukimura, Hotta Sakubei, Takanashi Naiki, Akihime, Umehime and Daisuke.

Kinda interesting that the families of three of Yukimura's four historical wives supported him:

Hotta Sakubei was the brother of Yukimura's first wife.

Takanashi Naiki was the father of Uneme Yukimura's second wife.

Akihime's father Yoshitsugu died in Sekigahara which is why her brother Yoshikatsu supported Yukimura during the siege. Of course since Akihime was Daisuke's mom you can also add the kid as support.

Episode 47 looks like an unpleasant suprise for Nobuyuki.

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While visiting Otsu Ono, Ina and exwife Oko (Sanada Nobutsuna's daughter) suprise him.
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Wow, really glad to hear that it looks like the Sanada and Takeda can finally be split(especially with so many responses agreeing with the notion that it could easily happen). Also, really glad to hear that SW1-esque items are returning as they can really help a player customize their character beyond what base stats will allow, especially when strong items can make for such large differences in stats.

At this point the only thing I'm waiting on is to see just how Osaka is split into multiple stages. Is it multiple battles, like battle of Domyji, battle of Tennoji, assault on Sanada-maru, etc. each with their own importance in the same way battles like Honnoji and crossing Iga are separate stages, or does it seem more like the Kawanakajima split in this game where it looks like it'll only be split for this one game then recombined into a single stage in the next main game?

It'd be really weak if Osaka ended up feeling more like the latter.

Also, the weapon upgrade system actually sounds pretty fun; I mean i'm a bit of a loot whore myself so i'll probably always prefer SW1 and 2's find your own weapon style(then upgrade them with XL), but SW4's system sounds really good too.

Though I do hope maxing out weapons doesn't become too easy, feels like a lot of the fun in the games is taken away when I can instantly give a character an ultimate weapon and just trash everything at like level ten.

Also, does kunoichi look a little older too anyone else as well?
Edited by bluefiend, Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:53 am.
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So any idea how Hidetada is being handled in this? After all, he's nothing like his SW4-2 or Anime counterpart this time around (bummer) so I'm wondering if they made him more respectable or kind of a Takatora clone or what.
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:57 pm
Muramatsu doesn't feel in game like a character that will become playable, at least not the way the first time i saw Aya and Masanori i KNEW they'd be made playable. She's very blad, the most interesting thing about her is her alt costumes in the Artbook.
Honestly i think what makes Muramatsu a Unique case is unlike past Unique NPCS like Katsuie Shibata or Kojiro Sasaki or Aya and Masanori. is the fact Muramatsu doesnt have a weapon to go alongside her. which usually Unique NPCS do which makes u think they will become playable at some point and thier design/appearance of course


and most Unique NPCS from past games have become playable with exception of Kennyo Honganji from Samurai Warriors 1.



I personally find it hard to think She wont become playable somewhere down the line. Because while not as Important as Chacha, she is likely to become very popular enough in the fanbase for the demand of her to become playable.


but of course this is just my two cents. If she doesnt become playable she doesnt. she just looks too unique not to become playable in my personal opinion
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She's also a very passive personaliy in game, the closest character to her is Oichi, who's still prepared to fight for the people she loves, and can be VERY decisive when necessary. You'll see what i mean when you get the game, she defers to everyone.

Man these time of day time limits are working me out. You can very easily lose a whole scenario one strike away from a win. I'd guess i've unlocked about half the characters.

There's a heartbreaking cut where Oichi's watching Nagamasa burn with ChaCha as a child, and Hideyoshi runs up and grabs them to pull them away and without even looking at him with her resting bi*ch face ChaCha slaps his hand away.
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I just couldn't believe Oichi would allow chacha to see that in the first place!
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the game Samurai Warriors: Sanadamaru looks awesome with Yukimura older, other characters. the TV series Sanadamaru is Awesome is from the company that did Yoshitsune ( 2005 ) NHK. :yukimura:
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