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| On Factions: Alignment And You; Alignment "can" be diverse... | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 25 2012, 03:31 AM (462 Views) | |
| Captain Vanguard | Jul 25 2012, 03:31 AM Post #1 |
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Factions are basically philosophers with sticks designed to hit each other untill they cry, or argue with bibles. But everyone has their own method of showing this, not just a cliched version of the same philosophy but variations of that phillosophy that are as diverse as the god knows how many christian religions out there. The point is, here are many ways to follow a faction (and no that last sentance was not a bash at christians, god bless you). The point is, some people tend to fear that it is hard to rp one way or another without seeming like the philosophy is being bent to far. Im gonna give a few examples here as a tutorial dummies guide on how to rp certain alignments with a factions belief, this is in no way a guide you have to follow only one that helps you get an idea of what to do in that situation. These will be presented as scenerios such as: Random Guy: I say this Factioner: I say that Action follows. These actions will depend on alignment and the replies too, the random guy will always say the same thing and the alignment, class and action will always be different depending on faction. So, here goes: Doomguard: Bystander: What do you think of Entropy? Lawful Good Paladin Doomguard: Entropy will punish the wicked, smite the guilty, it will unmake evil first and reward the innocent last, we will all be clensed in the light of extacy and bliss. Bystander: What do you think of Entropy? Chaotic Evil Warlock Doomguard: Entropy will annihilate stars, unmake the cosmos, one fabric of strand at a time, we will all be consumed, in a blissful oblivion, embrace it, come embrace the end, the end, is nigh. Bleaker: Bystander: I feel really depressed of late what should I do? True Neutral Bleaker: If it was up to me id probably sit inside and have a day to myself blood. Bystander: I feel really depressed of late what should I do? Neutral Evil Bleaker: I find a knife works on the wrist, but if your gonna fix the problem properly go for the throat, best way to end it really. Bystander: I feel really depressed of late what should I do? Chaotic Neutral Bleaker: Why dont you just go crap on somebodies lawn then? Probably make you feel better for a while, folks'll probably think your going mad but hey, we all will in the end right? Taker: Bystander: Help im dying- Neutral Good Taker: Alright, lemmie just fix you up, there you go, now, if you dont mind I got some supplies I need hauling, if you carry 'em ill protect us both on the way. Bystander: Help im dying- Lawful Neutral Bleaker: Im willing to save you but only if you agree to give me your sword in return. Since you obviously couldnt use it you dont truley need it so ill trade you the sword for some healing salves and we'll see where that takes us from there shall we? Bystander: Help, im dying- Neutral Evil Taker: Nice shiv, no witnesses, not your day im afraid. -Guts the fellows throat- Those are a few examples, but heres some more: Bystander: Help! Im under assault! Lawful Neutral Harmonium: Alright everyone stay right where you are! Now then lets sort out this matter before it gets out of hand. Bystander: Whats the best thing in life? Chaotic Good Xaosman: Happiness, eat it, drink it, sip it like a cup and bananas will be your apple! Bystander: Any idea how to make good jink around here? Neutral Evil Indep: Good jink? Sure, I could help you make good jink, if your willing to get your hands dirty blood. Prisoner: Mercy! Lawful Good Mercykiller: I will grant you that Mercy, but first, I must know you are willing to change your life, you will suffer, but through suffering you will be healed, are you willing to suffer for redemption? Bystander: Bloody hardheads. Chaotic Evil Anarchist Insighter: Aye, you know what you need to do? Make a stand, go up to that hardhead and smack him good in the face, nothing'll happen till you make it happen, oh, bring a chiv, and some friends. Bystander: What do we do? Everyones going to die, the demons are comming! True Neutral Cipher: Get those that can be saved to saftey, leave those that cant and rally the people that can be armed to me GO! Bystander: I miss my wife. Neutral Good Dustman: We all miss those we loose but it is apart of embracing death, its nothing to be afraid of, she is waiting for you, in true deaths embrace, one day, you will meet her, I know it. Neutral Evil Sensate: You should try this one, the agonising screams of pandemonium its a killer I swear -chuckles- Bystander: im not sure I want t-YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH Bystander: I wish to form a warrent of arrest for a criminal! Lawful Neutral Guvner: By Law C5 segrigating the act of levels 2Q and X6 you must patiently wait outside with the rest and get back in line, sir. Bystander: Please bard, sing us another song! Neutral Good Godsmen: Alright, just one more, now, from the top, everyone sing alone with me, together, we can make this a song that will last for eternity. Chaotic Evil Athar: The Great Unknown demads you have commited heresy, what say you? Horrified Victim: I...I have done nothing wrong. Chaotic Evil Athar: Truley? A shame for you, we have evidence that suggests you have been worshipping, and worshipping, is heresy. Victim: AAAGGH Those are some examples to make use of, there are others im sure but have fun with that little lesson, it might help motivate other pespectives, creative alingments used in factions. |
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| Agony_Aunt | Jul 25 2012, 07:29 AM Post #2 |
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Get a Life
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A LG Paladin Doomguard? I'd like to see someone actually RP that in game. A real challenge. And can't really think of a matching deity, although could invent one i suppose. |
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| Mabus | Jul 25 2012, 09:44 AM Post #3 |
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It was hard enough trying to RP a LN one.
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(Account Name: Lazzdar) "In the end all things betray you. Honor. Ideals. Heroism. Allies. Comrades. Lovers. Your eyes. Your limbs. Your heart. And in the end, you betray yourself. And that is the greatest betrayal of all." ~Lament of the Cambion Zaxarus, hero of the Blood War. | |
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| Mr_Otyugh | Jul 25 2012, 10:58 AM Post #4 |
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As per Factols manifesto: Lawful cutters try to hold entropy to a slow crawl. Good Sinkers prefer inaction as a method of pushing their agenda - rather than tearing down a new kip, they’d merely stop others from shoring up a decrepit one. So a paladin doomguard would likely be all about ensuring that the cycle of life/decay continues. I could see them targeting undead for purpose of attempting to avoid the intended (within their belief) point of life ... the end, death and decay. One does not have to be cruel or unkind to believe in the collapse of all, even scientists constantly theorize how our existence is going to come to an end doesn't make them evil, some would even argue that they're more realist. There's even a deity that would fit and that is Wee Jas (Lawful neutral and take from dogma: "She reminds them that death is inevitable, but she promises that their learning and memory will be honored by those who come after.") To paladin life is about duty, perhaps they view that by ensuring that death and destruction occurs at their respective times grants regrowth in ways unexpected, like burning portion of forest allows the land to become more fertile, let old buildings fall to create new and greater. Some peoples deaths allows progress in society, disasters in others lives allows them to grow as a person. Doesn't mean he has to be the one to deliver these, but they all sound viable beliefs to a paladin, different definitely but viable. One does not need to haste the multiversal collapse as they believe it is inevitable in any case. |
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| Hydra | Jul 25 2012, 01:44 PM Post #5 |
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Ol' Hydra
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I do simply follow the rules of the factol manifesto : - Mercykillers, lawfull people only, justice is their mistress. - Harmonium, lawfull people only, the faction ideal is lawfull good, but their actions make them leaning towards lawfull neutral. - Guverns, lawfull people only, you believe the multi-verse has precise laws. - Xaos, chaotics people only, N0 ne3d T° E*pl4iN. - Anarchists, all but lawfull, because they want to f*** the system. - Doomguard, any, good sinkers prefer inaction while evil are more active, lawfull prefer to slow down entropy, and chaotic accelerating it. - Takers, all but lawfull good, a taker is an opportunist. - Athars, any, but you have to be against the gods. - Godsmen : any, but without ambition a Godsmen will go nowhere. - Sensates : any, but people have to be curious about experimenting sensations. - Dustmen, any, but to be like death you have to be actually True neutral. - Free league, any, because it's a mess anyway. - The Sign of one, any, but it's hard for lawfull people to get the idea. - Transcendent order, must have a neutral component like druids, the faction ideal however is to lean towards true neutral. |
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- Kala Ta'Kan : Factor of the Beleivers of the Source - Ash (Kazuko Yudeoshi) - Safana Washedan - and many other alts. | |
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| kitteninablender | Jul 25 2012, 03:03 PM Post #6 |
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Doomguard of Kelemvor. *nod nod* Or depending on your Campaign setting: Wee Jas or Pharasma. or if you're into the Draconic thing: Paladin of Chronepsis. Fate, Time, Destiny, Death, etc. |
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| DemonAbyss10 | Jul 25 2012, 03:11 PM Post #7 |
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Namer
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I guess I can post what I view as real world equivalents but even then its shifty due to human perspective as in Good views itself as good, the opposite as evil::: Evil Views itself as good and "good" as evil. Big reason why I don't care for an alignment system. As for how I am going about the real world equivalents, would go off of my own beliefs of things. I also feel it is sometimes easier to find new ways to rp a group by relating them to real life analogues. Harmonium: Various armies across the world. ((Not including mercenaries)) Guvners: Bureaucrats, lawyers. Usually still out for their own good but every once in a while you get 'good' ones who try to shake up the system. You can also count scientists here as well, they would usually equate to neutral/good IMO Xaositechts: Teenagers >_> Anarchists: Self explanitory Doomguard: Scientists. Nihilists. Misanthropes. Takers: Just about everyone is one to a degree. The biggest examples individual wise = Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Rockefeller, Bernie Madoff, Carnegie, etc... I will continue this list later. |
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Characters -Moriarcis: Lvl 20 Necromancer -Ordethus: Lvl 20 (21) Telepath Warlock/Alienist -Orionis: Lvl 8 Dirge of Tiamat -Zaed Nahalis: Lvl 28 Hextorite Blademaster -Skor Addamar: Lvl 22 Ex-Collector -Ven: Lvl 9 (10) Old School Assassin -Vai'aian: Lvl 18 (20) Zerth Monk
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| Silverfish | Jul 25 2012, 04:27 PM Post #8 |
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Jergal would be the obvious choice. Has paladins and his dogma is... "Each being has an eternal resting place that is chosen for him or her at the moment of creation. Life is a process of seeking that place and eternal rest. Existence is but a brief aberration in an eternity of death. Power, Success, and joy are as transitory as weakness, failure, and misery. Only death is absolute, and then only at its appointed hour. Seek to bring order to the chaos of life, for in death there is finality and a fixedness of state. Be ready for death for it is at hand and uncompromising. Life should be prolonged only when it serves the greater cause of the death of the world." You could make a great paladin around that, an undead slayer who seeks a proper decline of the multiverse into oblivion, for order's sake. |
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| Mabus | Jul 25 2012, 06:23 PM Post #9 |
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Bill Gates can't be a Taker. He has his Foundation, and donates money to causes, etc. No Taker would willingly part with their wealth for charity. |
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(Account Name: Lazzdar) "In the end all things betray you. Honor. Ideals. Heroism. Allies. Comrades. Lovers. Your eyes. Your limbs. Your heart. And in the end, you betray yourself. And that is the greatest betrayal of all." ~Lament of the Cambion Zaxarus, hero of the Blood War. | |
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| Hydra | Jul 25 2012, 07:23 PM Post #10 |
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Ol' Hydra
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Of course they do, all the good takers actually do it and even the most evil, just to get appear as good persons. Charity is such an hypocritical concept. |
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- Kala Ta'Kan : Factor of the Beleivers of the Source - Ash (Kazuko Yudeoshi) - Safana Washedan - and many other alts. | |
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| deusex2 | Jul 25 2012, 07:35 PM Post #11 |
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Silly indep...There is no such thing as charity, Takers merely buy reputation and image for a cheap change. And really, when you have this much money, what else is there to do with them? :lol: |
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| DemonAbyss10 | Jul 25 2012, 07:54 PM Post #12 |
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Couldn't of said it better. Charity is just there for PR purposes. |
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Characters -Moriarcis: Lvl 20 Necromancer -Ordethus: Lvl 20 (21) Telepath Warlock/Alienist -Orionis: Lvl 8 Dirge of Tiamat -Zaed Nahalis: Lvl 28 Hextorite Blademaster -Skor Addamar: Lvl 22 Ex-Collector -Ven: Lvl 9 (10) Old School Assassin -Vai'aian: Lvl 18 (20) Zerth Monk
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| Er_Nano_Infame | Jul 25 2012, 08:19 PM Post #13 |
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EL NANO!!
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yay, exactly just like sakadu
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Maewind:''That's still plant-hating! That makes you a plant racist!'' Lucelle Vand'hovar: ''Miss Maewind, i assure you, the plants started this conflict.'' Nienna: ''Razorvine is hardly a plant, in her defense.''
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| Agony_Aunt | Jul 25 2012, 08:26 PM Post #14 |
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Get a Life
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Chant is that the Bill and Melindra Foundation is not as clean and nice as it looks on the service. Rumour is there is a dark about it, that it does big favours for big pharma through its works and promotes their agendas. On the other hand, could be just some clueless berks rattling their bone boxes. |
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| Ceremorph | Jul 25 2012, 11:37 PM Post #15 |
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I'd have to stick Gates and Jobs into a different faction. They didn't make their fortunes from taking others' money, they made a product that people wanted and turned that into a fortune. A true Taker would be someone who hasn't actually produced anything for all the money they have, but have made their fortunes off of other peoples' labor. Venture capitalists like Buffett and Romney, market speculators like Madoff, and currency manipulators like Soros fit the Taker mold. Generators of products and innovative inventors would fit better as Indeps or Godsmen, while those who grow rich by actual trade would be more likely to be members of the Merkhant sect. |
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