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Topic Started: Jul 7 2014, 01:37 PM (4,388 Views)
Agony_Aunt
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Ah! I know what this is. Old issue.

Basically when you go through an area transition it can trigger a character save (if you haven't saved in the last 10 mins or something). Character saves unpolymorph and repolymorph, but it just does the effect, not any additional effects that had been applied - eg: Magic Fang/GMF or the Additional bonuses you get when you use the Dark Form.

To avoid this happening, use the autosave text command as described here: http://z13.invisionfree.com/nwn2planescape...?showtopic=6710

Just remember you have to manually save your character while you have autosave turned off... although i think resting still will automatically save your character.

As for AB... well, yeah, creature weapons + monk + polymorph. I wouldn't trust any stats being displayed. Combat log is usually accurate though. Character sheet just plain lies at times.
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply! All of this makes a lot of sense.
New question... does using the oarsman to get rid of creature weapons affect the dark form? ie. allowing the actual monk gloved attacks instead?
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As for Dark Form displaying a lot more AB than you have, weapon finesse doesn't work on creature weapons. I ran into that issue with my wraith.

Another issue is that even the human base model races can't sit on the chairs through the KEMO bar, and you instead need to animate yourself with Sit On Lap. I would assume that wouldn't be too difficult a fix, but I could be horribly wrong.
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NuBahamut,Jul 16 2014
04:18 AM
Wow, thanks for the quick reply! All of this makes a lot of sense.
New question... does using the oarsman to get rid of creature weapons affect the dark form? ie. allowing the actual monk gloved attacks instead?

It would work, but as soon as you go to the portal your polymorph will be removed and youll be back in human form and the next time you polymorph your creature weapons will be back.

I did give the Dark Form some solid physical stats though to compensate for the use of creature weapons.
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shadowblizmasta,Jul 16 2014
04:25 AM
As for Dark Form displaying a lot more AB than you have, weapon finesse doesn't work on creature weapons. I ran into that issue with my wraith.

Another issue is that even the human base model races can't sit on the chairs through the KEMO bar, and you instead need to animate yourself with Sit On Lap. I would assume that wouldn't be too difficult a fix, but I could be horribly wrong.

Ah! I'm guessing kemo chairs script looks at the base race to decide what anim to use.

I think i can fix this. Ill put it on the list.
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The lycan hybrid form has serious issues with how weapons are held in it... looks like one is trying to commit suicide with that greatsword.

Edit: should mention this was the wolf variant. I'll be happy to include a screenie if it is helpeful
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uh Don't think thats fixable other than saying Hybrids now can't wield weapons .... and I don't like that option either.
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It seems like some racial spell DCs are higher then they should be. But not always. Inconsistently. Specifically the vamp gaze dominate is getting around 30 DC for a level 13 char with 7 CHA bonus, but not always. It is confusing.

And the nymph kiss dun work at all cause nymph chars are really picky and won't kiss anyone/
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Plaxy100,Jul 17 2014
03:41 AM
uh Don't think thats fixable other than saying Hybrids now can't wield weapons .... and I don't like that option either.

Not trying to get weapons taken away from them just it's definitely a bug.
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Leona,Jul 17 2014
01:01 AM
The lycan hybrid form has serious issues with how weapons are held in it... looks like one is trying to commit suicide with that greatsword.

Edit: should mention this was the wolf variant. I'll be happy to include a screenie if it is helpeful

Buggeration.... really should change that then... or instead make it a polymorph effect and apply some bonus damage.

Anyone got any feedback on the wererats? As far as i know they do handle weapons fine.
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EBA,Jul 17 2014
03:43 AM
It seems like some racial spell DCs are higher then they should be. But not always. Inconsistently. Specifically the vamp gaze dominate is getting around 30 DC for a level 13 char with 7 CHA bonus, but not always. It is confusing.

And the nymph kiss dun work at all cause nymph chars are really picky and won't kiss anyone/

Higher... well, thats good i suppose, even if wrong. But it should be consistent unless your character is getting buffs or something. Ill take a look.

And Nymph kiss? Dang! Will take another look.
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Agony_Aunt,Jul 17 2014
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Leona,Jul 17 2014
01:01 AM
The lycan hybrid form has serious issues with how weapons are held in it... looks like one is trying to commit suicide with that greatsword.

Edit: should mention this was the wolf variant. I'll be happy to include a screenie if it is helpeful

Buggeration.... really should change that then... or instead make it a polymorph effect and apply some bonus damage.

Anyone got any feedback on the wererats? As far as i know they do handle weapons fine.

Okay after further review it's just the female hybrid form model that handles them horribly... the male does fine.
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Ah, great... maybe ill leave this alone then. Or maybe change the female hybrid form to be the same as male?

I find the weresquirrel with bewbs rather amusing though.
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Agony_Aunt,Jul 17 2014
04:31 AM
Ah, great... maybe ill leave this alone then. Or maybe change the female hybrid form to be the same as male?

I find the weresquirrel with bewbs rather amusing though.

*shudder* I personally would vote for changing the model.. but I am but a noob here :D
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