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Topic Started: Jul 7 2014, 01:37 PM (4,380 Views)
FiveWhats
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I don't think this actually warrants another thread and it fits pretty decently here.

It doesn't seem like umber hulks (maybe other large races too? haven't had a chance to test the rest) can't get through the force gates in Mechanus. Can't exactly say for certain that's also the case for the exit one, but I can't get through the entrance to test that.

edit: can't get through, not can. I am an idiot.
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Agony_Aunt
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Transitions of all kinds can be a problem with large races. One of the downsides of playing them.

There are two possible problems. The first is that you can't get close enough to the transition object to activate it. In this case, you can use PC Tools closeness to get closer to the target.

The second problem is that due to your size the game can't find a location on the destination to place you. In that case, it would require the bridge widening to allow bigger races to have a big enough walkmesh to fit on.

Try using closeness. If that doesn't work, its perhaps the second issue, in which case, nothing we can do in the short term.
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FiveWhats
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I can confirm that it doesn't work even with closeness on. It seems like the transition just warps the large beasties slightly forward instead of past the actual wall.
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Lucereflame
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i played mr woofie mc.. frost wolf. and i was teleported past the wall.. i even just ran at the barrier and went through also.

though i do find it annoying because Summons will not Cross the barrier. so animal companions and such cannot follow you unless they are summoned on the other side of it
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Agony_Aunt
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Ah, that old chestnut. I think there might be a value we can change to allow summons to go with you. Ill take a look.

As for the not porting... hmm, maybe moving the waypoint a little further back might fix it. Create more room to actually port through.
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Icelancer
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After reading a lot if not all 20 pages i have to agree with most people about high ECL races regarding AB.
I tried building an RP Vampire Samurai Woman from Lore , but she just wasnt viable ab wise.
(+6 ECL)

On paper at lvl 24 she would end up with total of 21/29 bab/ab which is ridiculous for any melee.
compared to regular 30/41.

I ended up abandoning whole idea of it, its just not viable in my eyes.Despite all the resilient feats /regen/dr etc, what good can it do if u are just that, a smiley vampire screaming come and get me..and then playing hit&miss dance


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And a question : will Vampires get reinstated removed Quick to Master feat for additional feat?


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Mick64
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Switching shapes repeatedly as a dragon will make your total HP go up and up and up. (Probably something to do with switching CON modifiers.)
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Agony_Aunt
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@Icelander - ah, you take a high LA race, you have to be prepared for the restrictions that come with it. Any race with high LA won't make a good melee char unless they get a suitable STR bonus to go along with it. Vamps get +6 STR, so that offsets the loss of 3AB from levels. So, if you are going to be a melee vamp you have to compensate a little extra into STR to match a human for AB. However, those extra STR also give you +3 damage, so i feel it fairly compensates things.

@Mick64 - i don't have a fix for this, it happens with many polymorphs that have CON bonuses. Basically its an exploit, so if anyone is found doing it they can be busted by a DM.
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Mick64
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***EDIT' SCRUBED, not a bug***

@Mick64 - i don't have a fix for this, it happens with many polymorphs that have CON bonuses. Basically its an exploit, so if anyone is found doing it they can be busted by a DM.
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The problem being that dragons might polymorph many times to get a form they want, "exploiting" involuntarily. Wouldn't calling something like this (see bellow) when the dragon uses polymorph fix the issue?

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void RemoveExtraHitPoints(object p_oObject)
{
int maxHP = GetMaxHitPoints(p_object_);
int totalHP = GetCurrentHitPoints(p_object);

if (totalHP > maxHP)
{
 effect damage = EffectDamage((totalHP - maxHP), IP_CONST_DAMAGETYPE_MAGICAL, DAMAGE_POWER_NORMAL, TRUE);
 ApplyEffectToObject(DURATION_TYPE_INSTANT, damage, p_oObject, 0.0f);
}
}
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Yeah, that could work, assuming the values returned for those functions are the values they should be. If the game engine is screwing up the values in the first place....

But ill raise an issue for it, will require some testing.
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Mander
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The blue slaad's unarmed animation is very buggy, usually just standing still and staring at the enemy. The hold person and sonic damage on the creature weapon also doesn't seem to work very often.
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WhenWizardsWar
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As for trying to fit big round pegs into tiny square holes

It IS a pain, peliryons are big, nasty and fat lol they cant get into most places.

Face the door your trying to get through and use the W S A D Q E keys to walk forward until you get close to the door and can click the transition, all you need to do is get close enough for a second.

Either that or invest in reduce spell stock....

Or join Sigil Weight Watchers, i hear the lady of pain is great at helping cagers loose weight.

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Cant do anything about animations really. Their implementation leqves a lot to be desired. However there is a new blue slaad model in the works or maybe its even finished now and do plan on changing to that.

As for damage... Strange. No idea on that at all. Ill have to have a play myself see if i can see a pattern.
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